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  1. Started riding a bike again after my joints were reclassified
    as junk by the orthopedist a few years ago. My first new
    bike was an FS mountain bike that cost me the same as
    my first new car did about the time I stopped riding at 18.
    While it sings over roots, ruts and ravines it was ponderous
    on the road and since the trails are a 45 minute drive from home
    I figured a road bike would make it more fun to ride starting from my
    driveway.

    I was captivated by the retro philosophy espoused by Rivendell and
    must have blabbed about it at home because my wife called them and
    arranged to get me one for Christmas 2004 and I became the recipient
    of a Ramboullet a few weeks later, hereafter referred to as Rambo.
    (Exceeding the cost of my first new car)
    My apologies to those who shudder at the name, but the roads and drivers
    here on Long Island are not bike friendly and I wanted the tough guy with
    me on my rides.

    First I hung on the saddlebag, then the candy bag, all retro canvas
    and left the camelbak for the trails. Then clipless pedals that I started
    with
    (since I love them on the mountain bike) came off to be replaced by clips.
    Makes the bike say "Hop on" instead of "get ready."
    Something worked because I'm on it everyday now.
    Last night I put on fenders and today I tested them through the puddles
    left from last night's rain. Outstanding, and very cute.

    Naturally the serious cyclists around here don't ride with fenders but
    I'm under no illusions about my standing in that group. I'm too chunky to
    risk wearing tight flourescent spandex, though if I get back to my old
    running
    weight (it was only four years ago-sob) I'll be able to squeeze into my old
    running tights and compression stuff. But the flashy stuff doesn't match my
    retro nature.

    The bell is on order and for now that will complete the nerdification of
    Rambo.
    I'm contemplating changing the dropbars for Rivendell's moustache bar since
    I so rarely use the drop position and it will give me more hand options on
    my daily
    rides but that will mean reinstalling the brakes and shifters (bar-end
    friction) and
    then retaping the bars and I'm not an expert bike mechanic. But I've been
    resurrecting
    some vintage road bikes my kids have dragged home and I'll probably tackle
    it
    next year. The brightly attired pro's that decorate the roads on the
    weekends will
    no doubt sneer as they zoom past hunched over their aerobars but I seek
    comfort
    on my daily 20 mile workout and Rambo will no doubt approve.

    JP

  2. In article <N%eVg.34$Ye.15@trndny04>,

    JP said:

    I was captivated by the retro philosophy espoused by Rivendell and
    must have blabbed about it at home because my wife called them and
    arranged to get me one for Christmas 2004 and I became the recipient
    of a Ramboullet a few weeks later, hereafter referred to as Rambo.
    (Exceeding the cost of my first new car)
    My apologies to those who shudder at the name, but the roads and drivers


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Quoted message said:

    here on Long Island are not bike friendly and I wanted the tough guy with
    me on my rides.

    No sweat. Bike's names are important (in my ever so humble opinion.)
    I think they do somehow enhance their traits & attributes by describing
    them. When you've got a fleet of bikes you can, as the mood and desired
    type of ride suits, select from: Sugarfoot, Ol' Pig Iron, Swee'pea,
    Poufdhi the Magic Drag'n, Harold Lloyd, The Maven Raven ...

    Quoted message said:

    First I hung on the saddlebag, then the candy bag, all retro canvas
    and left the camelbak for the trails. Then clipless pedals that I started
    with
    (since I love them on the mountain bike) came off to be replaced by clips.
    Makes the bike say "Hop on" instead of "get ready."

    You are not alone. Some folks decry clips & straps as death traps,
    but I've had no probs with my Mt Zefal MTB ones.

    Quoted message said:

    Something worked because I'm on it everyday now.
    Last night I put on fenders and today I tested them through the puddles
    left from last night's rain. Outstanding, and very cute.

    What kind/brand of fenders? And do they have mudflaps?
    One of these days I've gotta fashion a pair of mudflaps
    out of a pair of mouse pads with the right grafix on 'em.

    Quoted message said:

    Naturally the serious cyclists around here don't ride with fenders but
    I'm under no illusions about my standing in that group.

    Aw, to heck with 'em :-)
    Let 'em be serious. We can be just as committed & passionate about
    cycling, and have more fun doing it, without being "serious" ;-)

    Quoted message said:

    I'm too chunky to
    risk wearing tight flourescent spandex, though if I get back to my old
    running
    weight (it was only four years ago-sob)

    You can easily get that back, if ya wanna.

    Quoted message said:

    I'll be able to squeeze into my old
    running tights and compression stuff. But the flashy stuff doesn't match my
    retro nature.

    Yeah, if you want to, you could skip the leg-shaving thing too.
    Not being too "serious" == freedom. Let 'er rip!
    Tell ya what -- I've done a bunch of desk-&-chair jobs, and
    now I'm happily doing real, physical work. I've also reached
    a point where I realized I'd rather work to live, than live to
    work. The money ain't as good, but I don't need that much
    money anyways. Y'know that saying: "Time is money?" It ain't
    true. Time is worth more than money. You can make money any
    time you want, but your time is here & gone, so we've gotta
    make the most of it while we've got it. I figure a good way
    to approach that, is to get some enjoyable & enjoyed rides in.

    But don't isolate your physical workouts in one, schedulable,
    routine pastime embedded within an itinerary of: thinking about/
    delegating work for other people-- rather, modify your lifestyle
    toward constant activity on your part, and good nutrition to
    support that activity.

    Quoted message said:

    The bell is on order and for now that will complete the nerdification of
    Rambo.

    Well, ya gotta at least hang a mojo on 'im.
    What kind of mojo would one would hang on a
    nerdified bike named Rambo?
    I guess a bell that has to be ordered-in is
    a good start.

    Actually, fenders and a bell aren't all that nerdly at all.

    You should see what Ol' Pig Iron looks like -- rubber bulb
    horn, milk crate, 'n all.

    cheers,
    Tom

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  3. Tom Keats said:

    Y'know that saying: "Time is money?" It ain't
    true. Time is worth more than money. You can make money any
    time you want, but your time is here & gone, so we've gotta
    make the most of it while we've got it. I figure a good way
    to approach that, is to get some enjoyable & enjoyed rides in.

    Sage advice. Well said.

    Matt O.

  4. None of what you're doing is heresy. You happen to be on the leading edge of
    a revolution. People who started biking as adults in the 80s or so are
    getting older and less interested in hammering. They've been through MTBs
    and high end road race bikes, and now they're looking for something
    comfortable and practical. You're a revolutionary. :-)

  5. The fenders are SKS, recycled plastic that look silvery like metal,
    weigh almost nothing.
    No mudflaps though I may put some on depending on how messy the weather gets
    this fall. If I do I'll most likely opt for cutting up an old pair of shoes.

    The bell came and I put it on the stem yesterday. Very cute.

    Changed saddlebag to a smaller one. Still room for a cable lock, spare
    tube,
    tire levers, patches, tools and powerbars. Plus room in the candybag.

    Switched the pedals to MKS platform with Soma clips and straps.
    Much more comfy and very retro. Goes with the canvas saddlebags and the
    steel lugged frame and the brass bell. Riding gets so much more casual
    when I don't have to put on clipless shoes. The only cycling specific
    apparal I still need to wear is butt padding.

  6. Tom Keats said:

    In article <N%eVg.34$Ye.15@trndny04>,

    JP said:

    ...
    First I hung on the saddlebag, then the candy bag, all retro canvas
    and left the camelbak for the trails. Then clipless pedals that I started
    with
    (since I love them on the mountain bike) came off to be replaced by clips.
    Makes the bike say "Hop on" instead of "get ready."

    You are not alone. Some folks decry clips & straps as death traps,
    but I've had no probs with my Mt Zefal MTB ones....

    Good riddance to clip and straps.

    When I want to ride without cycling specific shoes, I use Powergrips
    [1]. They hold the foot better than the combination of clips and straps
    WITHOUT cleated cycling shoes, and do not require reaching down to the
    pedals to release one's foot.

    Clips and straps with the straps loose enough to intentionally pull
    one's foot out do little to aid in pedaling, but can still snag ones
    foot while one is trying withdraw it.

    Some things are better left as historical artifacts.

    [1] <http://www.powergrips.com/>.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Here, not there.

  7. In article <ipgYg.787$Dg5.600@trndny09>,

    JP said:

    The fenders are SKS, recycled plastic that look silvery like metal,
    weigh almost nothing.
    No mudflaps though I may put some on depending on how messy the weather gets
    this fall. If I do I'll most likely opt for cutting up an old pair of shoes.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    I once considered that myself, but was warned off the idea.
    Apparently shoe leather isn't the ideal mudflap material
    for some reasons that I now forget. I know in freezing
    temps it can ice up when wet.

    Quoted message said:

    The bell came and I put it on the stem yesterday. Very cute.

    Changed saddlebag to a smaller one. Still room for a cable lock, spare
    tube,
    tire levers, patches, tools and powerbars. Plus room in the candybag.

    Switched the pedals to MKS platform with Soma clips and straps.
    Much more comfy and very retro. Goes with the canvas saddlebags and the
    steel lugged frame and the brass bell. Riding gets so much more casual


    ^^^^^^^^^^

    Ooohh, that's gotta be pretty. I like it.

    Quoted message said:

    when I don't have to put on clipless shoes. The only cycling specific
    apparal I still need to wear is butt padding.

    Yeah, I too appreciate the hop-on-'n-go approach.
    My co-workers frequently ask me why I always have
    my right jeans cuff rolled up ;-)

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
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  8. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:


    Tom Keats said:

    In article <N%eVg.34$Ye.15@trndny04>,

    JP said:

    ...
    First I hung on the saddlebag, then the candy bag, all retro canvas
    and left the camelbak for the trails. Then clipless pedals that I started
    with
    (since I love them on the mountain bike) came off to be replaced by clips.
    Makes the bike say "Hop on" instead of "get ready."

    You are not alone. Some folks decry clips & straps as death traps,
    but I've had no probs with my Mt Zefal MTB ones....

    Good riddance to clip and straps.

    When I want to ride without cycling specific shoes, I use Powergrips
    [1]. They hold the foot better than the combination of clips and straps
    WITHOUT cleated cycling shoes, and do not require reaching down to the
    pedals to release one's foot.

    Clips and straps with the straps loose enough to intentionally pull
    one's foot out do little to aid in pedaling, but can still snag ones
    foot while one is trying withdraw it.

    Some things are better left as historical artifacts.

    I strenuously (but nevertheless sociably) demand to differ.
    With my plastic MTB clips and cordura straps with slide-y buckles,
    I can pedal one-legged up almost every Vancouver hill (until the
    pedaling leg gets tired,) yet extract my foot without any
    difficulty. I could also pull up on the backstroke if Iwanted to.
    These things are nothing like those inextricable track bike rigs.

    The only hassle I experience with the straps is occasionally
    stepping on them when walking my bike, thereby losing the
    sweet spot in its adjustment. I usually remember to kick
    the near pedal around so it's high enough that I don't step
    on the strap. But sometimes I forget.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  9. Tom Keats said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:


    Tom Keats said:

    In article <N%eVg.34$Ye.15@trndny04>,
    "JP" <[email hidden]> writes:

    > ...
    > First I hung on the saddlebag, then the candy bag, all retro canvas
    > and left the camelbak for the trails. Then clipless pedals that I started
    > with
    > (since I love them on the mountain bike) came off to be replaced by clips.
    > Makes the bike say "Hop on" instead of "get ready."

    You are not alone. Some folks decry clips & straps as death traps,
    but I've had no probs with my Mt Zefal MTB ones....

    Good riddance to clip and straps.

    When I want to ride without cycling specific shoes, I use Powergrips
    [1]. They hold the foot better than the combination of clips and straps
    WITHOUT cleated cycling shoes, and do not require reaching down to the
    pedals to release one's foot.

    Clips and straps with the straps loose enough to intentionally pull
    one's foot out do little to aid in pedaling, but can still snag ones
    foot while one is trying withdraw it.

    Some things are better left as historical artifacts.

    I strenuously (but nevertheless sociably) demand to differ.
    With my plastic MTB clips and cordura straps with slide-y buckles,
    I can pedal one-legged up almost every Vancouver hill (until the
    pedaling leg gets tired,) yet extract my foot without any
    difficulty. I could also pull up on the backstroke if Iwanted to.
    These things are nothing like those inextricable track bike rigs.

    The only hassle I experience with the straps is occasionally
    stepping on them when walking my bike, thereby losing the
    sweet spot in its adjustment. I usually remember to kick
    the near pedal around so it's high enough that I don't step
    on the strap. But sometimes I forget.

    I have fallen over enough times while struggling to get my foot out of
    a clip when the strap is loose, I will never ride a bicycle with clips
    and straps again if there is any other option.

    The simplicity of Powergrips is appealing - no moving parts, yet they
    function extremely well.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Here, not there.

  10. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Some things are better left as historical artifacts.

    I strenuously (but nevertheless sociably) demand to differ.
    With my plastic MTB clips and cordura straps with slide-y buckles,
    I can pedal one-legged up almost every Vancouver hill (until the
    pedaling leg gets tired,) yet extract my foot without any
    difficulty. I could also pull up on the backstroke if Iwanted to.
    These things are nothing like those inextricable track bike rigs.

    The only hassle I experience with the straps is occasionally
    stepping on them when walking my bike, thereby losing the
    sweet spot in its adjustment. I usually remember to kick
    the near pedal around so it's high enough that I don't step
    on the strap. But sometimes I forget.

    I have fallen over enough times while struggling to get my foot out of
    a clip when the strap is loose, I will never ride a bicycle with clips
    and straps again if there is any other option.

    Well, I've fallen over a few times, myself. But I only had one
    occasion where my foot got a little stuck (mounting after leaving
    the laundromat, with a sack of laundry sticking up out of the milk
    crate. I forgot the gunny sack of laundry was there, went to
    "cowboy mount", hit the bag of laundry with my foot, and fell back
    down with the bike falling on top of me, with my left foot still in
    the toe clip & strap.) It took a bit of effort to undo myself from
    that situation while passing-by onlookers looked upon me with their
    pity and suspicions that I was drunk & incipiently disorderly.

    I've learned from that experience. Once bitten, twice shy.
    A cat never jumps onto a hot hob twice.

    Quoted message said:

    The simplicity of Powergrips is appealing - no moving parts, yet they
    function extremely well.

    Okay. I relent. PowerGrips are good, too.

    So are those chunky BMX platform pedals with all the metal nubs
    screwed into/sticking up out of them.

    cheers, & a handshake,
    Tom

    --
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    Above address is just a spam midden.
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  11. I fell over lots when I first clipped in with the SPDs
    Dozen times the first day.
    Not that easy in one's fifties.
    But I hadn't ridden in nearly forty years and I didn't
    wreck my joints by engaging in moderate recreation all those years.
    Three years later I need to be clipped in on the mtn bike,
    or I don't feel safe.
    I bought the powergrips but the pedal I intended them for did not fit.
    I'll get around to them. The action seems to be identical to SPD clipping
    in ond out.
    But the soma clip is sooo comfortable, my New Balance sneakers fit nice,
    and pull out fine.
    And the clips of course look very old-time.
    I can't pull the pedals up like I can when I'm clipped but I really don't
    need to.
    I don't commute on my bike, or use it for errands. It's not that easy to
    mount and
    dismount with destroyed hip joints. I vaguely remember throwing the leg
    over the saddle
    but those days are gone, like the days of throwing a flying crescent kick.
    Oh well.
    I ride for an hour or so a day to get the heartrate up, keep the BP and
    cholesterol down
    enjoying the breeze the sights as I cruise past the salt marsh to the little
    beach, slo-mo
    down the boardwalk and stare out at the sound. Beats gym equipment.

    "Tom Keats" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Some things are better left as historical artifacts.

    I strenuously (but nevertheless sociably) demand to differ.
    With my plastic MTB clips and cordura straps with slide-y buckles,
    I can pedal one-legged up almost every Vancouver hill (until the
    pedaling leg gets tired,) yet extract my foot without any
    difficulty. I could also pull up on the backstroke if Iwanted to.
    These things are nothing like those inextricable track bike rigs.

    The only hassle I experience with the straps is occasionally
    stepping on them when walking my bike, thereby losing the
    sweet spot in its adjustment. I usually remember to kick
    the near pedal around so it's high enough that I don't step
    on the strap. But sometimes I forget.

    I have fallen over enough times while struggling to get my foot out of
    a clip when the strap is loose, I will never ride a bicycle with clips
    and straps again if there is any other option.

    Well, I've fallen over a few times, myself. But I only had one
    occasion where my foot got a little stuck (mounting after leaving
    the laundromat, with a sack of laundry sticking up out of the milk
    crate. I forgot the gunny sack of laundry was there, went to
    "cowboy mount", hit the bag of laundry with my foot, and fell back
    down with the bike falling on top of me, with my left foot still in
    the toe clip & strap.) It took a bit of effort to undo myself from
    that situation while passing-by onlookers looked upon me with their
    pity and suspicions that I was drunk & incipiently disorderly.

    I've learned from that experience. Once bitten, twice shy.
    A cat never jumps onto a hot hob twice.

    Quoted message said:

    The simplicity of Powergrips is appealing - no moving parts, yet they
    function extremely well.

    Okay. I relent. PowerGrips are good, too.

    So are those chunky BMX platform pedals with all the metal nubs
    screwed into/sticking up out of them.

    cheers, & a handshake,
    Tom

    --
    -- Nothing is safe from me.
    Above address is just a spam midden.
    I'm really at: tkeats [curlicue] vcn [point] bc [point] ca

  12. Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman said:
    Tom Keats said:

    In article <N%eVg.34$Ye.15@trndny04>,

    JP said:

    ...
    First I hung on the saddlebag, then the candy bag, all retro canvas
    and left the camelbak for the trails. Then clipless pedals that I started
    with
    (since I love them on the mountain bike) came off to be replaced by clips.
    Makes the bike say "Hop on" instead of "get ready."

    You are not alone. Some folks decry clips & straps as death traps,
    but I've had no probs with my Mt Zefal MTB ones....

    Good riddance to clip and straps.

    When I want to ride without cycling specific shoes, I use Powergrips
    [1]. They hold the foot better than the combination of clips and straps
    WITHOUT cleated cycling shoes, and do not require reaching down to the
    pedals to release one's foot.

    Clips and straps with the straps loose enough to intentionally pull
    one's foot out do little to aid in pedaling, but can still snag ones
    foot while one is trying withdraw it.

    Some things are better left as historical artifacts.

    [1] <http://www.powergrips.com/>.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Here, not there.

    I've also had very good luck with Powergrips. Normally I ride clipped
    in, but if we're going somewhere where we'll be doing a lot of off bike
    walking (like in Old Town St. Charles, MO when we ride the Katy Trail)
    I'll use Powergrips. I've tried clips and straps, too, but like
    Powergrips better.

    Smokey

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