My computer+ Virus = full system boot

"AngieRose" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

So I came home for lunch yesterday and the computer wouldn't do
ANYTHING!!!!
so I tried to run Norton Anti virus but the virus had attacked it so I
couldn't even do that. I did that thing that the computer goes back a few
weeks that didn't work. DH called HP support and they worked for hours
trying to get it to work but couldn't so the guy helped DH to find a way
to
burn some info and we had to reinstall windows :o( if this is the worse
thing that happens around my birthday it just might be a good one.:o)

Angie

My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have to do
some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them didn't
follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in the restore
program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to clean/delete or
even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I had to do a full
destructive restore and lost all of my photos from the last 2 yrs.
thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted but I'd like to smack
around one of the those destructive pigs for invading my [censored]. I wish they'd
go play with fire instead.

--
Lori

(Atkins 1/16/2003) 220-144 from Jan to Nov
restart Jan 1. 2005
170/160/145

Devoted wife of Curtis diagnosed with Metastatic Prostate Cancer 12/31/2004
40 yr and 1 day old
failed Hormone deprivation therapy in 9 mo (instead of the usual 18-24 mo)
now on Radiation for pain(done)
starting Chemo for the rest of his life in ?. (hoping for a clinical trial
in 1 month)http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

Lori

(Atkins 1/16/2003) 220-144 from Jan to Nov
restart Jan 1. 2005
170/161/145

Devoted wife of Curtis diagnosed with Metastatic Prostate Cancer 12/31/2004
failed Hormone deprivation therapy in 9 mo (instead of the usual 18-24 mo)
now on Radiation for pain(done)
starting Chemo for the rest of his life in ?. (hoping for a clinical trial
in 1 month)http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

I am forever preaching the value of having at least a separate petition, if
not a second physical drive, to keep one's data on. While not a 100%
protection, it does save it from most reformat situations.

With regard to the virus in the restore files, what you need to do is turn
off restore and then turn it on again. Turning it off deletes all the
restore files. You need to be logged in as administrator to do this.

In news:[email hidden],
Lorelei <[email hidden]> stated
||
|
| My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have
| to do some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them
| didn't follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in
| the restore program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to
| clean/delete or even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I
| had to do a full destructive restore and lost all of my photos from
| the last 2 yrs. thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted
| but I'd like to smack around one of the those destructive pigs for
| invading my [censored]. I wish they'd go play with fire instead.
|
| --
| Lori
|
|
| (Atkins 1/16/2003) 220-144 from Jan to Nov
| restart Jan 1. 2005
| 170/160/145
|
|
| Devoted wife of Curtis diagnosed with Metastatic Prostate Cancer
| 12/31/2004 40 yr and 1 day old
| failed Hormone deprivation therapy in 9 mo (instead of the usual
| 18-24 mo) now on Radiation for pain(done)
| starting Chemo for the rest of his life in ?. (hoping for a clinical
| trial in 1 month)http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller
|
|
| Lori
|
|
| (Atkins 1/16/2003) 220-144 from Jan to Nov
| restart Jan 1. 2005
| 170/161/145
|
|
| Devoted wife of Curtis diagnosed with Metastatic Prostate Cancer
| 12/31/2004 failed Hormone deprivation therapy in 9 mo (instead of the
| usual 18-24 mo) now on Radiation for pain(done)
| starting Chemo for the rest of his life in ?. (hoping for a clinical
| trial in 1 month)http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

I am forever preaching the value of having at least a separate petition, if
not a second physical drive, to keep one's data on. While not a 100%
protection, it does save it from most reformat situations.

With regard to the virus in the restore files, what you need to do is turn
off restore and then turn it on again. Turning it off deletes all the
restore files. You need to be logged in as administrator to do this.

In news:[email hidden],
Lorelei <[email hidden]> stated
||
|
| My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have
| to do some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them
| didn't follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in
| the restore program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to
| clean/delete or even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I
| had to do a full destructive restore and lost all of my photos from
| the last 2 yrs. thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted
| but I'd like to smack around one of the those destructive pigs for
| invading my [censored]. I wish they'd go play with fire instead.
|
| --
| Lori
|
|
| (Atkins 1/16/2003) 220-144 from Jan to Nov
| restart Jan 1. 2005
| 170/160/145
|
|
| Devoted wife of Curtis diagnosed with Metastatic Prostate Cancer
| 12/31/2004 40 yr and 1 day old
| failed Hormone deprivation therapy in 9 mo (instead of the usual
| 18-24 mo) now on Radiation for pain(done)
| starting Chemo for the rest of his life in ?. (hoping for a clinical
| trial in 1 month)http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller
|
|
| Lori
|
|
| (Atkins 1/16/2003) 220-144 from Jan to Nov
| restart Jan 1. 2005
| 170/161/145
|
|
| Devoted wife of Curtis diagnosed with Metastatic Prostate Cancer
| 12/31/2004 failed Hormone deprivation therapy in 9 mo (instead of the
| usual 18-24 mo) now on Radiation for pain(done)
| starting Chemo for the rest of his life in ?. (hoping for a clinical
| trial in 1 month)http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

Consider Ghosting or mirroring your system on a periodic basis so that you
can do a complete restore from a previous image. Your computer will be
exactly as it was on the day you made the image.

The suggestion of separate partitions is a good one. It makes it easier to
create a ghost image and easier to backup data. You don't have to create a
ghost image as often as you would back up data. When you reinstall a ghost
image all your software is installed and updated and the settings are the
same as the day it was made.

Having to reinstall everything from scratch is a pain in the but because of
extra hardware configuration, service packs, security updates, configuring
printers, routers etc all has to be done.

You can store your image on a separate partition, a DVDRW or CDRW (bootable
is nice) depending on the size or elsewhere on your network.

I like Norton ghost.

Sid...

Partition!!! How did I do that?

In news:[email hidden],
FOB <[email hidden]> stated
| I am forever preaching the value of having at least a separate
| petition, if not a second physical drive, to keep one's data on.
| While not a 100% protection, it does save it from most reformat
| situations.
|
| With regard to the virus in the restore files, what you need to do is
| turn off restore and then turn it on again. Turning it off deletes
| all the restore files. You need to be logged in as administrator to
| do this.
|
| In news:[email hidden],
| Lorelei <[email hidden]> stated
|||
||
|| My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have
|| to do some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them
|| didn't follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in
|| the restore program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to
|| clean/delete or even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I
|| had to do a full destructive restore and lost all of my photos from
|| the last 2 yrs. thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted
|| but I'd like to smack around one of the those destructive pigs for
|| invading my [censored]. I wish they'd go play with fire instead.
||
|| --
|| Lori
||
||
|| (Atkins 1/16/2003) 220-144 from Jan to Nov
|| restart Jan 1. 2005
|| 170/160/145
||
||
|| Devoted wife of Curtis diagnosed with Metastatic Prostate Cancer
|| 12/31/2004 40 yr and 1 day old
|| failed Hormone deprivation therapy in 9 mo (instead of the usual
|| 18-24 mo) now on Radiation for pain(done)
|| starting Chemo for the rest of his life in ?. (hoping for a clinical
|| trial in 1 month)http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller
||
||
|| Lori
||
||
|| (Atkins 1/16/2003) 220-144 from Jan to Nov
|| restart Jan 1. 2005
|| 170/161/145
||
||
|| Devoted wife of Curtis diagnosed with Metastatic Prostate Cancer
|| 12/31/2004 failed Hormone deprivation therapy in 9 mo (instead of the
|| usual 18-24 mo) now on Radiation for pain(done)
|| starting Chemo for the rest of his life in ?. (hoping for a clinical
|| trial in 1 month)http://community.webshots.com/user/lorismiller

sprudil said:

Consider Ghosting or mirroring your system on a periodic basis so that
you
can do a complete restore from a previous image. Your computer will be
exactly as it was on the day you made the image.

The suggestion of separate partitions is a good one. It makes it easier
to
create a ghost image and easier to backup data. You don't have to
create a
ghost image as often as you would back up data. When you reinstall a
ghost
image all your software is installed and updated and the settings are the
same as the day it was made.

Having to reinstall everything from scratch is a pain in the but because
of
extra hardware configuration, service packs, security updates,
configuring
printers, routers etc all has to be done.

You can store your image on a separate partition, a DVDRW or CDRW
(bootable
is nice) depending on the size or elsewhere on your network.

I like Norton ghost.

Sid...

I'm also using Norton Ghost, although I use a second hard drive. I may
also start using CDs.

--
Bob in CT

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

is nice) depending on the size or elsewhere on your network.

I like Norton ghost.

Sid...

I'm also using Norton Ghost, although I use a second hard drive. I may
also start using CDs.

--
Bob in CT

Removable mobile racks are cheap and make swapping hard drives easier. I
have some older hard drives that I keep around for data backup or ghost
storage. You can even get adapters that would allow you to use a laptop
hard drive in the desktop. I have one.

Sid...

Carmen said:

Lorelei said:

My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have
to do
some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them
didn't
follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in the
restore
program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to
clean/delete or
even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I had to do a
full
destructive restore and lost all of my photos from the last 2 yrs.
thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted but I'd like to
smack
around one of the those destructive pigs for invading my [censored]. I
wish they'd
go play with fire instead.

These are Curt's daughters you're referring to? I hope like hell he
doesn't ever read your messages on Usenet. That would hurt any decent
parent.
It can't be good for those girls to be around you.

Carmen

I thought she meant the virus writers, not the stepdaughters.

--
Bob in CT

Lorelei said:

My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have
to do
some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them
didn't
follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in the
restore
program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to
clean/delete or
even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I had to do a
full
destructive restore and lost all of my photos from the last 2 yrs.
thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted but I'd like to
smack
around one of the those destructive pigs for invading my [censored]. I
wish they'd
go play with fire instead.

These are Curt's daughters you're referring to? I hope like hell he
doesn't ever read your messages on Usenet. That would hurt any decent
parent.
It can't be good for those girls to be around you.

Carmen

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"Lorelei" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have to do
some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them didn't
follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in the restore
program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to clean/delete or
even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I had to do a full
destructive restore and lost all of my photos from the last 2 yrs.
thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted but I'd like to smack
around one of the those destructive pigs for invading my [censored]. I wish

they'd

Quoted message said:

go play with fire instead.

=============================
You should have a CD-R/CD-RW burner on your HP PC to do BACKUPS with. Buy
the CDs when they're on sale and do monthly or bi-monthly backups. Or
backup everything new and of value daily. Just add them to the same CD. In
an emergency you can even back things up to floppies.

Also use the free Adaware, Spybot, SpywareBlaster and keep your antivirus
program updated.
--
Wysong
Age 60. Height 5'6"
Starting date: 1/8/05
171/ 165 / 140 lb
==========================================

Carmen wrote:
:: On 4-Feb-2005, "Lorelei" <[email hidden]> wrote:
::
::: My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have
::: to do
::: some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them
::: didn't
::: follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in the
::: restore
::: program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to
::: clean/delete or
::: even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I had to do a
::: full
::: destructive restore and lost all of my photos from the last 2 yrs.
::: thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted but I'd like to
::: smack
::: around one of the those destructive pigs for invading my [censored]. I
::: wish they'd
::: go play with fire instead.
::
:: These are Curt's daughters you're referring to? I hope like hell he
:: doesn't ever read your messages on Usenet. That would hurt any
:: decent parent.
:: It can't be good for those girls to be around you.

I *assumed* the comment was in reference to the virus writers. Maybe not.

However, aside from that, whose fault is it for not having a backup of one's
data? Computers crash, lightning strikes, HDs go bad, [censored] happens.
Putting blame on the kids or the virus writers is folly. If something is
important to you - make a backup. CD and DVD media and drives are *very*
inexpensive.

So did I. I could be wrong.

--
Cheri

Bob M wrote in message ...

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

I thought she meant the virus writers, not the stepdaughters.

--
Bob in CT

"However, aside from that, whose fault is it for not having a backup of
one's
data? Computers crash, lightning strikes, HDs go bad, [censored] happens.
Putting blame on the kids or the virus writers is folly. If something
is
important to you - make a backup. CD and DVD media and drives are
*very*
inexpensive"

DVD's and CD's are relatively inexpensive, but they aren't very good
backup solutions, as they are very small compared with typical hard
drives today. I know someone will say that you only have to back up
your data, which takes a small amount of space, but from a practical
standpoint, that's nearly impossible and won't get done if you rely on
that type of media. It's too hard to figure out where data is stored
by various programs, plus lots of important config information is
stored God only knows where by the various programs and O/S components.
The only practical backup IMO, is either a seperate hard drive,
either std or a USB one, together with a good backup program, like
Ghost. I use a USB one which can contain a few complete backup images
of both my desktop and notebook drives.

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have to do
some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them didn't
follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in the restore
program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to clean/delete or
even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I had to do a full
destructive restore and lost all of my photos from the last 2 yrs.
thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted but I'd like to smack
around one of the those destructive pigs for invading my [censored]. I wish they'd
go play with fire instead.

Losing the photos must have been HORRIBLE! Along with keeping stuff
like that on a separate drive from the OS, I also write them to CDs.
Most of my photo files are from photos I scanned in, so if you printed
them, you can get a scanner and scan them back in (and save them to a
CD/DVD). It will be time-consuming, but then you'll HAVE them if
something happens to either the hardcopy photos or the PC.

--
Saffire
205/144/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

In article <[email hidden]>,
[email hidden] says...

Quoted message said:

Lorelei said:

My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have
to do
some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them
didn't
follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in the
restore
program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to
clean/delete or
even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I had to do a
full
destructive restore and lost all of my photos from the last 2 yrs.
thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted but I'd like to
smack
around one of the those destructive pigs for invading my [censored]. I
wish they'd
go play with fire instead.

These are Curt's daughters you're referring to? I hope like hell he
doesn't ever read your messages on Usenet. That would hurt any decent
parent.
It can't be good for those girls to be around you.

I think she was referring to the virus authors.

--
Saffire
205/144/125 - 5'1.5"
Atkins since 6/14/03
Progress photo: http://photos.yahoo.com/saffire333

Most data isn't stored by programs, it's stored by users. Just because a
program defaults to My Documents doesn't mean you have to put your stuff
there. Reconfiguring is a pain but losing photos is a lot more painful.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
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DVD's and CD's are relatively inexpensive, but they aren't very good
backup solutions, as they are very small compared with typical hard
drives today. I know someone will say that you only have to back up
your data, which takes a small amount of space, but from a practical
standpoint, that's nearly impossible and won't get done if you rely on
that type of media. It's too hard to figure out where data is stored
by various programs, plus lots of important config information is
stored God only knows where by the various programs and O/S components.
The only practical backup IMO, is either a seperate hard drive,
either std or a USB one, together with a good backup program, like
Ghost. I use a USB one which can contain a few complete backup images
of both my desktop and notebook drives.

FOB said:

Most data isn't stored by programs, it's stored by users. Just because a
program defaults to My Documents doesn't mean you have to put your stuff
there. Reconfiguring is a pain but losing photos is a lot more painful.

<[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
DVD's and CD's are relatively inexpensive, but they aren't very good
backup solutions, as they are very small compared with typical hard
drives today. I know someone will say that you only have to back up
your data, which takes a small amount of space, but from a practical
standpoint, that's nearly impossible and won't get done if you rely on
that type of media. It's too hard to figure out where data is stored
by various programs, plus lots of important config information is
stored God only knows where by the various programs and O/S components.
The only practical backup IMO, is either a seperate hard drive,
either std or a USB one, together with a good backup program, like
Ghost. I use a USB one which can contain a few complete backup images
of both my desktop and notebook drives.

Ok, where are your settings for your browser stored? Your email? The
financial data you have? Your settings for your email account, your usnet
access settings, etc.? Your phone numbers, addresses, and other contact
information? I find it too hard to put this on a data disk, especially
since it's a pain the butt to figure out where half this stuff is stored.
Just backup your entire drive to another drive. I used to keep a tape
backup, and I was able to restore my entire hard drive when it went down.
Believe me, it can take days to restore all of your programs and settings.

--
Bob in CT

[email hidden] wrote:
:: "However, aside from that, whose fault is it for not having a backup
:: of one's
:: data? Computers crash, lightning strikes, HDs go bad, [censored] happens.
:: Putting blame on the kids or the virus writers is folly. If
:: something is
:: important to you - make a backup. CD and DVD media and drives are
:: *very*
:: inexpensive"
::
:: DVD's and CD's are relatively inexpensive, but they aren't very good
:: backup solutions, as they are very small compared with typical hard
:: drives today. I know someone will say that you only have to back up
:: your data, which takes a small amount of space, but from a practical
:: standpoint, that's nearly impossible and won't get done if you rely
:: on that type of media. It's too hard to figure out where data is
:: stored by various programs, plus lots of important config
:: information is stored God only knows where by the various programs
:: and O/S components. The only practical backup IMO, is either a
:: seperate hard drive,
:: either std or a USB one, together with a good backup program, like
:: Ghost. I use a USB one which can contain a few complete backup
:: images of both my desktop and notebook drives.

I personally use a HD over a firewire connection on all of my machines.
However, for those who are somehow challenged to keep an active backup, a CD
and/or DVD can work to prevent loss of important data. Most folkds don't
have nearly as much stuff to protect as i do, so again, a DVD can work just
fine.

Also, I avoid the use of software that hides my data.

"Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Lorelei said:

My stepdaughters use my pc when they are here and invariably I have
to do
some repairs when they leave, but about a month ago one of them
didn't
follow my security restrictions and let in a virus that hid in the
restore
program (I have an HP with XP). then when Mcafee tried to
clean/delete or
even quarantine the files, they couldn't be found. I had to do a
full
destructive restore and lost all of my photos from the last 2 yrs.
thankfully, I have printed most of the ones I wanted but I'd like to
smack
around one of the those destructive pigs for invading my [censored]. I
wish they'd
go play with fire instead.

These are Curt's daughters you're referring to? I hope like hell he
doesn't ever read your messages on Usenet. That would hurt any decent
parent.
It can't be good for those girls to be around you.

Carmen

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OMG!!!!! when I read this just a min ago I realized that it could be taken
wrong. I meant the people who write these invasive programs NOT MY
STEPDAUGHTERS!!

do you think I lost my mind? I have never posted bad things about them on
the net!! They are nice girls. I pick them up and drive them home most of
the time. we talk about girl stuff and curt and I am their advocate in this
house.

I see how you COULD have misinterpreted my post by the way I wrote it, but
did that SOUND like me??
Lori