MXMMANIC

tech27 said:

Just a note to inform all that this poster is likely a
troll, or for some reason feels the need to post his ill
informed (and largely incorrect) opinions in response to
legitimate questions.

He's been here for over a year and you've been here for less
than a week. In that time, I've seen nothing trollish from
him. I also find his posts are usually informed and correct.
You may not like him for some reason, but he's no troll.

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tech27 said:

Just a note to inform all that this poster is likely a
troll, or for some reason feels the need to post his ill
informed (and largely incorrect) opinions in response to
legitimate questions.

Any feeding of this troll will only exacerbate the problem.

They used to say patriotism was the last refuge of the
scoundrel, but these days I think it's calling someone a
troll.

Too bad if you don't like what he has to say. That doesn't
make him a troll.

-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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tech27 said:

Just a note to inform all that this poster is likely a
troll, or for some reason feels the need to post his ill
informed (and largely incorrect) opinions in response to
legitimate questions.

He's been here for over a year and you've been here for
less than a week. In that time, I've seen nothing trollish
from him. I also find his posts are usually informed and
correct. You may not like him for some reason,

but

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he's no troll.

Actually I've been here about 8 months, but that's not the
point. Here's his reply to my initial post:

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There are many terms for this pseudo-disease, as it has
been around

since time immemorial. It always occurs mostly in middle-
aged housewives, and the only treatments (which are never
curative and hardly ever even effective) are drugs and
attention, usually in that order. Psychoactive drugs are
preferred, especially narcotics, antidepressants,
anxiolytics, etc.<

I found his reply, which I took as flippant, quite
insulting, and certainly discouraging, as you can only
imagine if you have a loved one suffering terribly
with this.

His subsequent posts suggested that I figured out what I
know by researching "advocate" newsgroups. That, plus his
other comments such as "pseudo disease" are disparaging and
not helpful.

I think (most) people post here to become informed and
educated, not trivialized. He seemed more interested in
calling me out rather than imparting anything useful or
substantiating his position.

All I wanted was to learn something, not have an arguement-
which in my experience is what "trolls" are looking for.

In any case, I will disregard his posts and stop
engaging in any debate, but I am happy to consider all
opions and comments.

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They used to say patriotism was the last refuge of the
scoundrel, but these days I think it's calling someone
a troll.

I don't know what patriotism has to do with calling someone
a troll, but I can appreciate the "stretched" analogy.

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Too bad if you don't like what he has to say. That doesn't
make him a troll.

Absolutley right. Not like what someone says is a difference
of opion, which I'm quite open to. But the WAY a contrary
opion is voiced (argumentative, demeaning, inflamatory),
generally makes someone either a troll looking for an
arguement, or just a jerk. Either way I don't think it's
called for.

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-- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
have not seen as far as others, it is because giants
were standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

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Touche.....re: mxmmanic

has the ego of a Troll, the mouth of a Troll, no sympathy
or empathy like a Troll

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Actually I've been here about 8 months, but that's not the
point. Here's

his

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reply to my initial post:

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There are many terms for this pseudo-disease, as it has
been around

since time immemorial. It always occurs mostly in middle-
aged housewives, and the only treatments (which are never
curative and hardly ever even effective) are drugs and
attention, usually in that order. Psychoactive drugs are
preferred, especially narcotics, antidepressants,
anxiolytics, etc.<

I found his reply, which I took as flippant, quite
insulting, and

certainly

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discouraging, as you can only imagine if you have a loved
one suffering terribly with this.

His subsequent posts suggested that I figured out what
I know by

researching

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"advocate" newsgroups. That, plus his other comments such
as "pseudo disease" are disparaging and not helpful.

I think (most) people post here to become informed and
educated, not trivialized. He seemed more interested in
calling me out rather than imparting anything useful or
substantiating his position.

All I wanted was to learn something, not have an arguement-
which in my experience is what "trolls" are looking for.

In any case, I will disregard his posts and stop engaging
in any debate,

but

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I am happy to consider all opions and comments.

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tech27 said:

I found his reply, which I took as flippant, quite
insulting, and certainly discouraging, as you can only
imagine if you have a loved one suffering terribly
with this.

Maybe you should take my replies in a different way.

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His subsequent posts suggested that I figured out what I
know by researching "advocate" newsgroups. That, plus his
other comments such as "pseudo disease" are disparaging
and not helpful.

Time will tell.

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I think (most) people post here to become informed and
educated, not trivialized. He seemed more interested in
calling me out rather than imparting anything useful or
substantiating his position.

You seem preoccupied by personalities rather than issues.

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tech27 said:

But the WAY a contrary opion is voiced (argumentative,
demeaning, inflamatory), generally makes someone either a
troll looking for an arguement, or just a jerk.

The way it is voiced ... or the way it is interpreted?

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PLaine said:

has the ego of a Troll, the mouth of a Troll, no sympathy
or empathy like a Troll

Having an ego, a mouth, and no sympathy does not make
one a troll.

Troll

1. v.,n. [From the Usenet group alt.folklore.urban] To utter
a posting on Usenet designed to attract predictable
responses or flames; or, the post itself. Derives from
the phrase “trolling for newbies” which in turn comes
from mainstream “trolling”, a style of fishing in which
one trails bait through a likely spot hoping for a bite.
The well-constructed troll is a post that induces lots of
newbies and flamers to make themselves look even more
clueless than they already do, while subtly conveying to
the more savvy and experienced that it is in fact a
deliberate troll. If you don't fall for the joke, you get
to be in on it. See also YHBT.

2. n. An individual who chronically trolls in sense 1;
regularly posts specious arguments, flames or personal
attacks to a newsgroup, discussion list, or in email for
no other purpose than to annoy someone or disrupt a
discussion. Trolls are recognizable by the fact that they
have no real interest in learning about the topic at hand
- they simply want to utter flame bait. Like the ugly
creatures they are named after, they exhibit no redeeming
characteristics, and as such, they are recognized as a
lower form of life on the net, as in, “Oh, ignore him,
he's just a troll.” Compare kook