warehouse wrote: :: Cubit wrote: ::: ::: In recent times they have discovered a large collection of ::: hormone-like messengers that fat cells send into the body. They ::: may be responsible for increased risks such as CVD, diabetes, ::: cancer, etc. In addition, I hypothesize that they act to alter ::: psychology, and on our current topic, I SUSPECT THAT THEY ACT ::: ANABOLIC. I'm suggesting that the 400 or 500 pound person is able ::: to walk, move, & function not because of the exercise during the ::: weight gain period, but rather as a natural body enhancement ::: triggered by hormones released by the fat. It would be logical for ::: the body to have such a design. If my hypothesis is right, the ::: loss of 300 pounds of fat will remove the hypothetical hormones, ::: and the muscles will atrophy back to a normal size, as a natural ::: process. :: :: Preposterous. Performance athletes would be breaking down :: Fat-Folks-In-Denial's doors to let their blood for their own :: injection. Steroids be damned! Gimme that Krispy Kreme Kritter's :: hormones. :: That's the ticket. It couldn't possibly be the fact that it takes :: more muscle mass to move, lift or otherwise cajole the 500 pounds :: versus 150 pounds into vertical movement. Consequently, anybody :: with a 5% bodyfat would be a withering pool of Jello brand gelatin :: because the magic fat-faeries forgot to deliver those "natural body :: enhancement" hormones.
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Preposterous. Performance athletes would be breaking down Fat-Folks-In-Denial's doors to let their blood for their own injection. Steroids be damned! Gimme that Krispy Kreme Kritter's hormones. That's the ticket. It couldn't possibly be the fact that it takes more muscle mass to move, lift or otherwise cajole the 500 pounds versus 150 pounds into vertical movement. Consequently, anybody with a 5% bodyfat would be a withering pool of Jello brand gelatin because the magic fat-faeries forgot to deliver those "natural body enhancement" hormones.
I was trying to determine if his "argument" was really serious and trying to come up with an appropriately far out response, but you beat me to it. LOL.! Thanks for the laugh! Damn those fat faeries!
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First off, most 400 lb people aren't necessarily that muscled. That depends. However, a lot of those people will have a greater proportion of lower body muscle than your typical non-athletic person. Those who lifted weight due ot playing sports or something, could have significantly
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muslce than your average joe. if they continue to lift while losing, they can hold on to a lot (not all) of that muscle.
I do actually have alot of muscle. Many people do not think of me as conventionally fat because I am a big football player type.
Regardless of what I, or anyone else, might say, you will likely find your own exercise/diet regimen that works best for you. Shocking, isn't it?
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Take heart in the fact that it actually is possible to build muscle while dieting.
I am very happy about that prospect. That is one thing I have not been able to figure.
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modifications you should be able to maintain a large amount of your lean muscle. Granted, the typical aerobic/low-calorie diet would definately
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spare any muscle, but a combination of anaerobic weight training, maintaining glycogen stores prior to workouts, and watching your caloric intake, and you should be on the road to success. More than one person on the list has been able to maintain/build muscle on some variation of an LC diet. Please experiment and research your own best path and keep us informed! Good luck! Mark
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"Concordia (Suze)" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Quoting "Cubit" <[email hidden]>: > >>Roger, >> >>Why are you never in the Robochallenge? > > Non sequitur. >
Good question though.
Nonsense. I don't need robochallenge to lose weight. Do you? Cubit was talking out of his ass and finally needed something to respond back with.
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JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> wrote: > "Concordia (Suze)" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in > message news:[email hidden]... >> Quoting "Cubit" <[email hidden]>: >> >>>Roger, >>> >>>Why are you never in the Robochallenge? >> >> Non sequitur. >> > > Good question though.
Nonsense. I don't need robochallenge to lose weight. Do you? Cubit was talking out of his ass and finally needed something to respond back with.
What's your bodyfat%?
Don't know.
It's rather difficult to conclude that you've gained muscle mass then.
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"Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> wrote: >> "Concordia (Suze)" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in >> message news:[email hidden]... >>> Quoting "Cubit" <[email hidden]>: >>> >>>>Roger, >>>> >>>>Why are you never in the Robochallenge? >>> >>> Non sequitur. >>> >> >> Good question though. > > Nonsense. I don't need robochallenge to lose weight. Do you? > Cubit was talking out of his ass and finally needed something to > respond back with. > >
What's your bodyfat%?
Don't know.
It's rather difficult to conclude that you've gained muscle mass then.
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JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> wrote: > "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> wrote: >>> "Concordia (Suze)" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in >>> message news:[email hidden]... >>>> Quoting "Cubit" <[email hidden]>: >>>> >>>>>Roger, >>>>> >>>>>Why are you never in the Robochallenge? >>>> >>>> Non sequitur. >>>> >>> >>> Good question though. >> >> Nonsense. I don't need robochallenge to lose weight. Do you? >> Cubit was talking out of his ass and finally needed something to >> respond back with. >> >> > > What's your bodyfat%?
Don't know.
It's rather difficult to conclude that you've gained muscle mass then.
Did you read the other post?
I read something about you believing that you've gained muscle, but I don't remember the specifics now.
JC Der Koenig wrote: :: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message :: news:[email hidden]... ::: JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> wrote: :::: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message :::: news:[email hidden]... ::::: JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> wrote: :::::: "Roger Zoul" <[email hidden]> wrote in message :::::: news:[email hidden]... ::::::: JC Der Koenig <[email hidden]> wrote: :::::::: "Concordia (Suze)" <suze_anderson@spamcop/dot/obvious> wrote in :::::::: message news:[email hidden]... ::::::::: Quoting "Cubit" <[email hidden]>: ::::::::: :::::::::: Roger, :::::::::: :::::::::: Why are you never in the Robochallenge? ::::::::: ::::::::: Non sequitur. ::::::::: :::::::: :::::::: Good question though. ::::::: ::::::: Nonsense. I don't need robochallenge to lose weight. Do you? ::::::: Cubit was talking out of his ass and finally needed something to ::::::: respond back with. ::::::: ::::::: :::::: :::::: What's your bodyfat%? ::::: ::::: Don't know. ::::: ::::: :::: :::: It's rather difficult to conclude that you've gained muscle mass :::: then. ::: ::: Did you read the other post? ::: ::: :: :: I read something about you believing that you've gained muscle, but :: I don't remember the specifics now.
It started off with "It's hard to say for sure,...." and then it went on to point out the time periods in which I think it occurred. However, something being difficult doesn't make it impossible, ASSUMING it was difficult in the first place.
