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  1. Whats your tire pressure ratio / to tube rating on your Muni ...>?

    I been meaning to ask this for awhile and never remember to do
    so,.,...

    When I watch the vids ,,, looks like the tire pressure is just enough
    not to grind the rims ... ?
    (just an observation)

    This looks to give a better lift when hopping ...?

    Do you typically adjust tire pressure to what your riding conditions
    will be ...?

    oh,,, and what does the infamous 'UPD' acronym translate too ...?

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  2. UPD = Un-planned Dismount

    The tire preasure depends upon the type of riding, width of tire and the
    rider weight.

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  3. UNIquelyCanadian said:

    *UPD = Un-planned Dismount

    The tire preasure depends upon the type of riding, width of tire and
    the rider weight. *

    A fairly good rule of thumb which works for all my Muni riding friends
    with 24x3 tires down here is about 1 psi for each 10 pounds of body
    weight .

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  4. thanks Kenny

    that's a usefull answer

    so, a 145lb rider has 14.5 psi,,, on a max psi tire rating of ...?
    (for your 24x3)

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  5. Krashin'Kenny said:

    *A fairly good rule of thumb which works for all my Muni riding
    friends with 24x3 tires down here is about 1 psi for each 10 pounds of
    body weight . *

    That would amount to about 14 psi for me.... That seems a bit low,
    doesn't it?

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  6. Krashin'Kenny said:

    *

    A fairly good rule of thumb which works for all my Muni riding friends
    with 24x3 tires down here is about 1 psi for each 10 pounds of body
    weight . *

    I hadn't heard that before, but it seems right for me. I'm around 150
    and I ride at 15 PSI.

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  7. The ideal tire pressure for muni depends on a lot of different factors.
    It depends on rider weight, stiffness of the tire, what tire you're
    using, how new the tire is, what tube you're using, what rim you're
    using, your riding style, the terrain on the trail, how rocky and rooty
    the trail is, and other factors. There is no set rule for tire pressure
    that will hold for everyone for every situation.

    I typically ride with something between 16 psi and 22 psi. It all
    depends on the trail and whether I remember to check the pressure before
    the ride.

    The basic concern is that you want enough air in the tire to keep from
    getting pinch flats. You also want enough air in the tire so the tire
    doesn't fold over when doing side hops or when pecking up a hill.

    Here's a set of guidelines or a heuristic to help in determining ideal
    tire pressure. This is a list that I posted back in 2000 and has been
    copied to the 'tips section of Muniac Manor'
    (http://www.muniac.com/tips.htm#pressure)

    1) Ride right into a root or a similar obstacle. Don't try to hop over
    it, just ride right into it and try to roll over it. If the wheel
    bounces back instead of rolling over the root consider lowering the tire
    pressure. If you lose traction on the root consider lowering the tire
    pressure.

    2) Side hop up a hill. If the tire folds over increase the tire
    pressure. Wider rims also help prevent the tire from folding over. Tires
    with stiffer sidewalls (like the Intense DH tires) are less likely to
    fold over than tires with softer sidewalls.

    3) Hop and jump on a log or similar obstacle perpendicular to its length
    (the length of the log will be to your left and right). Pick a log that
    is about 6" or less in diameter. A parking lot divider will also work.
    If the tire bottoms out then increase the tire pressure.

    4) If you get pitched off the MUni during a ride because the tire
    bounced backwards (or upwards) after hitting an obstacle instead of
    rolling over the obstacle consider lowering the tire pressure.

    5) If you are going to be riding on fire roads or other similar "easy"
    trails consider increasing the tire pressure to decrease rolling
    resistance.

    6) If you lose traction during a ride consider lowering the tire
    pressure.

    7) If you ever get a pinch flat consider increasing the tire pressure.
    Also look for a thicker tube like the Intense DH tubes.

    In the end it all depends on the rider, the terrain, and the style of
    riding. The pressure that works for me may not be the pressure that
    works for you.

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  8. John,
    You should write a book.

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  9. I think that should go into unicycle.2ya.com

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  10. So do i.

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  11. Like like #3...

    Seems that a would be good to see if your going to grind the rim.

    Xmas is comming,,, and I havent bought myself a toy in a long time...

    I want to ride it in the snow in front of that sculpture I showed
    everyone on virgin snow 🙂

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  12. DigitalDave said:

    *Like like #3...

    Seems that a would be good to see if your going to grind the rim.

    How many of you build your uni's from parts ...?
    Or, does anyone build custom at a reasonable cost ...?
    (near Illinois) *

    My explanation of tire pressure calculation was just to get you in the
    ballpark with a 24x3. I weigh 180 and usually ride with 16-18 psi in my
    Gazz for trail use (depending on the terrain)

    Here's a link to a thread showing my homemade Muni frame:

    http://tinyurl.com/4nzng

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  13. gb4 is in iowa and does pretty freaking awesome work. gb4mfg.com i
    think.

    also i'm 180, and i run between 15-20 psi for off road on a 24x2.6 gazz.
    I generally put some air in if i fold the tube or "bottom out" on a
    drop/obstacle. Oddly enough the pushing down right before a big jump is
    usually where the tire squishes the most and if i hit the rim there i
    know i'm a few pounds too light.

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  14. onetrack said:

    John,
    You should write a book.

    The collected wisdom stored in past rsu messages constitutes at least
    one good book, probably many good books. If such book(s) were
    compiled, JC would appear to be a major author of it, probably topping
    the list.

    Kudos to the knowledge of JC and his continued willingness to share!

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  15. Klaas Bil said:
    *On Tue said:

    John,
    You should write a book.

    The collected wisdom stored in past rsu messages constitutes at least
    one good book, probably many good books. If such book(s) were
    compiled, JC would appear to be a major author of it, probably topping
    the list.

    Kudos to the knowledge of JC and his continued willingness to share!

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict *

    That post was quick and easy. It was just a cut and paste job from
    Muniac Manor. 🙂

    I'm not the best one to write a book. I'd be more interested in reading
    a book or watching a How To video by Kris Holm than reading a book by
    me. Kris has so much more to offer in terms of knowledge than I do.
    Kris can cover everything from the history of muni and trials, to
    technique, maintenance, and the nitty gritty of equipment development
    and the evolution of equipment.

    If I do anything I should consider working on a FAQ, but then I'd have
    to take time off from reading the group so I'd have time to do it. And
    I also dislike writing formal documents. It's much easier to write a
    post here than to write something more formal like a FAQ.

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  16. Aside from what others have so far said, I learned this from riding and
    carefuly watching others ride on the rocky terrain up in Santa Barbara.

    After fiddling with tire pressure for quite a while, I now try and keep
    the highest pressure I can and still roll over all the rocks and stick
    onto oblique surfaces on hops. The reason is that a real mushy tire
    basically turns your Mnui into a straight line rig, and dexterity and
    turning ability is key on some single tracks, especially those littered
    with rocks. When watching others, at least half the upd's are bacause
    someone couldn't pull a quick turn or weave through stuff (you can't hop
    over everything) because the Muni was so unresponsive owing to a super
    low tire pressure.

    I spent an hour on a long stair set sarting with a super high tire
    pressure and kept lowering it till I could ride without jaring my bones
    and at 210 pounds, that was about 23 lbs. A little rougher ride, but
    much more dexterity.

    JL

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  17. Thanks ALOT for all the great information within your replies !
    (and your patience with my silly questions too)

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  18. vivalargo said:

    *After fiddling with tire pressure for quite a while, I now try and
    keep the highest pressure I can and still roll over all the rocks and
    stick onto oblique surfaces on hops. The reason is that a real mushy
    tire basically turns your Mnui into a straight line rig, and dexterity
    and turning ability is key on some single tracks, especially those
    littered with rocks. *

    What tire(s) are people using there in Santa Barbara? The Duro tire has
    a different profile than the 24" Gazz. The 26" Gazz has a different
    tread than the 24" Gazz. All tires are different.

    I've found the 24" Gazz to be plenty maneuverable. I've also got a
    unicycle with the 26x3 Gazz and I found that tire to be a straight line
    rig -- It doesn't like to turn at all. I haven't tried the Duro tire or
    any other 3" wide tire to offer other comparisons. The profile of the
    Duro tire looks like it would be good for maneuverability even when soft
    and mushy, but I haven't actually tried it so I could be wrong.

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  19. Hope you all don't mind if I go a wee bit astray here: How do you choose
    best wheelsize for muni? Beside the fact that a 26" rim will roll a
    little longer on each revolution than a 24" and a 26" rim (perhaps)
    gives you a greater variety of tyres to choose from – what other factors
    rule when you decide which wheelsize to use? I would expect a 26" with a
    3" Gazza to be pretty heavy for hopping, and also quite doughy to idle
    with, especially when deflated to the pressures we are talking about
    here. Or?

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  20. Hope you all don't mind if I go a wee bit astray here: How do you choose
    best wheelsize for muni? Beside the fact that a 26" rim will roll a
    little longer on each revolution than a 24" and a 26" rim (perhaps)
    gives you a greater variety of tyres to choose from – what other factors
    rule when you decide which wheelsize to use? I would expect a 26" with a
    3" Gazza to be pretty heavy for hopping, and also quite doughy to idle
    with, especially when deflated to the pressures we are talking about
    here. Or?

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