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  1. Im looking into buying a Muni. I know i want a 26'' (or i
    think i know unless someone tells me thats a bad idea.) The
    one i have my eye one has a 2.6'' gazza tire. How much more
    preferable would a 3.0 wide tire be? Is it a big enough
    difference that i should look into a different Muni. Also
    this unicycle has a suzue hub..how unpreferable is this to a
    splined hub? Is that and the tire a big enough reason to
    spend more money and look elsewhere. This will be my first
    Muni. Here is the link to it. (It actually has a KH saddle)
    unicycle.comshopexd.asp all the
    specs are on the uni right above it, they are the same.
    Also, i would be getting the gazza upgrade, unless im told
    not to by someone. THanks

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  2. Is there a particular reason you want a 26?

    I have a 26 with Suzue Hub, Kenda Collossal, Sun Double
    Wide, jagur built wheel and 175 aluminum road bike cranks
    with the spider ground off. It has survived 24" drops. Now
    that I have a 24x3 I will probably put shorter cranks on
    this one for more of a cross country style Muni.

    For most Muni I prefer my 24x3 gazz with the 170 cranks. It
    hops better, sucks up roots & rocks and climbs hills better.

    There are tons of opinions on this and this question has
    been discussed many times. I don't have time to search the
    archive right now though.

    You can save some money by considering the 'Nimbus 24-inch
    MUni '
    (unicycle.comshopexd.asp).

    Either way: Get a Muni.

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  3. On Sun, 4 Jan 2004 21:40:22 -0600, fluffinator007
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    24" wheels are stronger than 26" wheels (generally). They
    are more up to technical MUni, 26" is better for fast MUni.
    So depends on what you want.

    These days, splined is preferred over cotterless because the
    prices have come down so much. If you are not heavy, you can
    go a long way with cotterless though.

    I like my 3" tyre for the root/rock absorbing effect.
    Haven't tried
    2.6" but many people who can compare prefer the 3"
    hands down.

    Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict
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  4. I was thinkin 26'' kuz it would roll over stuff a bit better
    and could cover ground faster but i am in no way an expert
    on the subject, what are some ups and downs of it? I was
    considering the Nimbus muni but it says in the description
    "this is designed for entry level Muni...does this mean it
    is gonna break and be weka and stuff....how it set up in
    your opinion?

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  5. i am soon to be the proud owner (tomorrow) of a 24x3 MUni
    with splined cranks and hub. i previously owned a 24x3 with
    cotterless cranks and hub, and i would say it depends on the
    skill of the rider and the money available. i sold my
    previous MUni to Theobieone3226, or Kevin as i know him. if
    you are really good, the cranks and hub may start to break
    and bend, but if you are just starting out, it may be worth
    the price difference to go for cotterless. i like the 24" as
    opposed to the 26" because it is easier to maneuver, and the
    3" vs. the 2.6" because of the traction and air volume. hope
    this helps.

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  6. So your saying that the nimbus will bend and crack if i put
    it through a little rough muni?

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  7. Where to start? I got a Nimbus 26" from Santa. It is a
    bargain, but if I had it to do over again I'd ask for the
    24". The 26" wheel definitely covers ground faster, but with
    the original 160mm crank-arms I couldn't climb worth beans.
    I put on some 175mm second-hand sturdy mountain bike
    aluminum alloy cranks and it is so much better, but vs. my
    old 24" still feels very unwieldly. The 3" Leopard tire has
    helped my bounce hop tremendously, but you have the 3" tire
    on the 24" frame with much less mass. Body size may
    influence your decision. I'm 6'1" 165lbs. and long legged.
    Splined cranks are a definite plus, but the only lower-end
    muni on unicycle.com that has them is the torker dx which
    accepts a max tire size of 2.3". Onza is now making a 24"
    muni/trials with splined cranks and a 2.6" tire that I'm
    definitely tempted by($399) In sum, if your going for cross-
    country riding 26" may be fine, if your looking to do more
    tricks, hopping, climbing etc. my opinion is solidly on the
    side of the 24" ride

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  8. UniBrier said:

    *jagur built wheel and 175 aluminum road bike cranks with
    the spider ground off*


    i think those are 170's 🙄

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  9. I'd go with the Nimbus 24x3, but first I'd check with
    Unicycle.com and see what brand of wheel comes on it. The
    one in the picture looks like a Alex 32. If so, that MUni is
    a quite a deal for $189. Also, if you want a Gazz, they will
    upgrade it there (for a fee) before they ship it

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  10. fluffinator007 said:

    *So your saying that the nimbus will bend and crack if i
    put it through a little rough muni? *

    I've had my Nimbus 24x3 for about 2 years; I've ridden it a
    lot and it's still fine with no rim problems and no twist in
    the axle/cranks.

    I ride on the streets and mild muni- lots of miles but no
    big drops.

    Like Klass Bill says, a 24" rim is going to be stronger than
    a 26" rim of similar quality.

    In fairness I should say that I've not ridden a 26" long
    enough to make comparisons, but I can say that buying the
    24x3 Nimbus was a very good decision and has given me many
    long hours of enjoyment.

    Currently I'm using 5" cranks on it as I like a bit more
    speed than the 6" ones gave.

    If you get the Nimbus it's worth putting in an extra tenner
    for some 5" euro cranks- the standard 6" are excellent for
    hills and muni but having 5" ones will give you options for
    faster riding.

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  11. As a mountain biker, I figured the 26" was right for me at
    the beginning, and was my first uni.

    Taco'ing that wheel was the best thing that could have
    happened, as I replaced it with a 24x3" wheel.

    The 24" just seems to be better. Hopping precisely is
    easier, and A 3" tire makes rolling over things easier, than
    the bigger wheel diameter would make.

    I'll never own another 26"r

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  12. I also would get the nimbus 24x3 with the gazzalodi upgrade
    and a crank upgrade to a set of 170s I think the
    unicycle.com hub is better than the suzue and you definitly
    want the 24x3 tire, the nokian gazzalodi's outside diameter
    is almost 26" and the 26" is around 28", unless you are
    doing a lot of cross-country riding and not to much hill
    climbing I think you would prefer the 24, and if you get a
    quality set of cranks I dont think you will need a splined
    hub unless you see yourself doing drops over 18 inches in
    the near future.

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  13. Thanks ladies and gentleman again for your input. I'm
    thinkin I'll prolly go with the 24/3 nimbus because of the
    cost efficiency and the larger tire, also i think I'd like
    the unicycle.com hub better than the suzue.

    Unicycle.com will put a gazza tire on at the place before
    shipping???? How much do you expect this would cost?
    Also, I'd get the splined cranks seperate and put them on
    but my knowledge of putting stuff together does not
    extend that far.

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  14. I've not been following this thread, but here's my two
    penn'orth.

    My Pashley 26 has a Gazz. 2.3 tyre which is considerably
    better at everything than the 1.95 I had on before. The
    difference is amazing.

    But the day I fitted the 2.3, I had a ride on someone else's
    3.0 and that was a whole league division better.

    So definitely, a big fat soft tyre will make a huge
    difference to your uni's ability to cross soft and shifting
    ground, bumps and roots and all manner of things. It will
    hop better and drop better.

    But on the other hand, it will be slower and harder work on
    the smooth sections.

    But ask yourself what sort of riding you like to do. How
    often will you be slogging up steep hills? How often will
    you be going down steep hills? Do you do drops? Do you like
    to ride distances?

    For comparison, I have ridden 20+ mile days on mixed single
    track and forest track on a 700c x 32 mm tyre, and 110mm
    cranks. I have ridden many miles on forest tracks and single
    tracks on a Coker with 150s. I have even done some quite
    difficult stuff on a 24 with 102mm cranks.

    On the other hand, I just couldn't get on with 170mm cranks
    on my 26. The extra leverage was great on descents, made
    suprisingly little difference on ascents, and made long flat
    sections 'orrible.

    I like to find a uni that feels right to ride, then ride it
    to the maximum that I can achieve on it, rather than making
    the uni really heavily specialised, and making big
    sacrifices in several areas for maximal performance in one.

    If I had the time, money and space to buy a new 'dedicated'
    MUni, it would be a 24 inch wheel with a 3 inch section
    tyre. This would give it a rolling diameter of about 26
    inches, good enough for most surfaces, but small enough for
    low gearing. I would fit 150mm cranks, decent pinned pedals,
    and a good strong handle on the seat.

    I would value plenty of mud clearance on the frame.

    I would accept that this MUni would have some limitations,
    but all unis are a compromise of some sort.

    I have never had a uni with a splined hub, and so far I have
    never broken a hub or crank. But I roll the wheel and seldom
    hop or drop.

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