Mtbing Shoes

Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of
shoes in less then a year. Does anybody have
recommendations for something that will last? I ride three
or four times a week, lots of hard climbs. I have Crank
bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the peddle
a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only on one
side and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you
tried those?

Matt

So far I am very happy with my Pearl Izumis

Sniffinvinyl
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Quoted message said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of
shoes in less then a year. Does anybody have
recommendations for something that will last? I ride three
or four times a week, lots of hard climbs. I have Crank
bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the peddle
a lot because I

think

Quoted message said:

I *might* fall. (But only on one side and that's not the
side that

broke.)

Quoted message said:

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sorry incident." FCC chief Michael Powell

MattB said:

Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of
shoes in less then a year. Does anybody have
recommendations for something that will last? I ride
three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs. I have
Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only on
one side and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you
tried those?

Matt

LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT that
durable. They have decent soles, but I wouldn't say they are
that great. The selling point of the Sidi brand is the fit
and cool buckles.

Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221.
That thing has got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a
heavy rubber sole that will last quite a while.

Heheh, sorry Matt... but you probably just don't abuse your
shoes like Joel does. 😉

John M

SniffinVinyl said:

So far I am very happy with my Pearl Izumis

Pearl makes some nice high end stuff. Their soles are
especially nice because the I-beam construction is all one
solid piece... and the big rubber lugs are molded into the
sole instead of just glued. The upper is often protected
with a nice strip of rubber that goes all the way around the
outside and covers the toe area as well.

John M

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MattB said:

Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of
shoes in less then a year. Does anybody have
recommendations for something that will last? I ride
three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs. I have
Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of
the peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But
only on one side and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you
tried those?

Matt

LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT
that durable.

They

Quoted message said:

have decent soles, but I wouldn't say they are that great.
The selling point of the Sidi brand is the fit and cool
buckles.

Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221.
That thing has got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a
heavy rubber sole that will

last

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quite a while.

Heheh, sorry Matt... but you probably just don't abuse
your shoes like

Joel

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does. 😉

I have the Sidi Action SRS shoes, and I have to agree with
you about the uppers not being heavy duty. Luckily for me,
I'm not abusive to my shoes.

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Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of
shoes in less then a year. Does anybody have
recommendations for something that will last? I ride
three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs. I have
Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only
on one side and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you
tried those?

Matt

Whaddabout when your toe gets poked by sagebrush?

JD

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LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT
that durable. They have decent soles, but I wouldn't say
they are that great. The selling point of the Sidi brand
is the fit and cool buckles.

You must be joking. I've been using a pair of Sidi's for 4
years now, they fit me so well that they feel like a 2nd
skin when I'm wearing them.They have been through
EVERYTHING and ALL conditions and manners of riding. I have
yet to rip or break anything on the shoes after thousands
of miles of riding them and treating them harshly. They
simply are the best mtb shoe I have ever had the pleasure
of using and abusing.

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Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221.
That thing has got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a
heavy rubber sole that will last quite a while.

I see it differently. I had a pair of Shimano's, took me
about 2 months of riding before they fell apart on me. I
still have another pair of Shimano's that I use when I want
to take easy/local rides, but I would never use them as my
daily riding shoe.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

JD said:

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Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of
shoes in less then a year. Does anybody have
recommendations for something that will last? I ride
three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs. I have
Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only
on one side and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you
tried those?

Matt

Whaddabout when your toe gets poked by sagebrush?

JD

Hasn't happened with the Sidis. It will one day, but so far
that's only happened with several other brands (Mr. Smarty-
pants!). The hole is started, but not all the way through. I
need a shoe with reinforcement by the outside of the pinkie
toes, but nobody seems to make one like that. I'm also on
the start of the third season with these so that's pretty
good for me. I've usually ground all the way through by now.

Matt

Carla A-G said:

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LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT
that durable. They have decent soles, but I wouldn't say
they are that great. The selling point of the Sidi brand
is the fit and cool buckles.

You must be joking. I've been using a pair of Sidi's for 4
years now, they fit me so well that they feel like a 2nd
skin when I'm wearing them.They have been through
EVERYTHING and ALL conditions and manners of riding. I
have yet to rip or break anything on the shoes after
thousands of miles of riding them and treating them
harshly. They simply are the best mtb shoe I have ever had
the pleasure of using and abusing.

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Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221.
That thing has got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a
heavy rubber sole that will last quite a while.

I see it differently. I had a pair of Shimano's, took me
about 2 months of riding before they fell apart on me. I
still have another pair of Shimano's that I use when I
want to take easy/local rides, but I would never use them
as my daily riding shoe.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

Nope, no joke here. I sold cycling shoes for 18 months when
I worked at Supergo, and Sidi shoes just do not hold up well
against abuse. I'm surprised yours have lasted you 4
years... sounds like you got your money's worth (seeing as
how they cost twice as much as any other comparable shoe). I
could see you getting 4 years out of a Sidi road shoe, if
it's taken care of... but MTB? You must have a much more
forgiving terrain where you live.

Don't get me wrong, Sidi makes a decent shoe, but I stand
firm on my statement that they are built more for fit and
"gee whiz" buckles than for durability. Lorica holds its own
against other synthetics for sure, but Sidi construction is
thin, single-stitched, and has no added layers of
reinforcement at the toe or sides to protect against rocks.

Also note that I didn't recommend just any Shimano model,
but specifically the M221. I happen to think their lower end
shoes are quite prone to early failures as you describe.

In the end, it boils down to how hard you are on your
equipment.

John M

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Nope, no joke here. I sold cycling shoes for 18 months
when I worked at Supergo, and Sidi shoes just do not hold
up well against abuse. I'm surprised yours have lasted you
4 years... sounds like you got your

money's

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worth (seeing as how they cost twice as much as any other
comparable

shoe).

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I could see you getting 4 years out of a Sidi road shoe,
if it's taken

care

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of... but MTB? You must have a much more forgiving terrain
where you

live.

No, its not a much more forgiving terrain. Have you ever
ridden in PA or NJ or upstate NY? Try it sometime, its
pretty rocky, rooty, often muddy and very abusive and ALWAYS
technical. You want to talk road shoes? I've also been
riding a pair of Sidi's on the road for 5 years now...

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Don't get me wrong, Sidi makes a decent shoe, but I stand
firm on my statement that they are built more for fit and
"gee whiz" buckles than for durability. Lorica holds its
own against other synthetics for sure, but Sidi
construction is thin, single-stitched, and has no added
layers of reinforcement at the toe or sides to protect
against rocks.

Also note that I didn't recommend just any Shimano model,
but specifically the M221. I happen to think their lower
end shoes are quite prone to

early

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failures as you describe.

In the end, it boils down to how hard you are on your
equipment.

I consider myself to be fairly harsh on all my equipment.
Shoes don't usually last me this long.

- CA-G

Can-Am Girls Kick Ass!

John Morgan said:

MattB said:

Joel Crum said:

Hello all,

I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of
shoes in less then a year. Does anybody have
recommendations for something that will last? I ride
three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs. I have
Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out of the
peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall. (But only
on one side and that's not the side that broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you
tried those?

Matt

LOL are you kidding me? That thin Italian Lorica is NOT
that durable. They have decent soles, but I wouldn't say
they are that great. The selling point of the Sidi brand
is the fit and cool buckles.

Joel, if you want a tank of a shoe, try the Shimano M221.
That thing has got thick synthetic reinforced upper and a
heavy rubber sole that will last quite a while.

Heheh, sorry Matt... but you probably just don't abuse
your shoes like Joel does. 😉

John M

I guess I'm just a softie then, or the terrain here is
mellower than, uh, I can't think of anywhere, but probably
*somewhere*. So far they've held up better than the
Vittoria, Answer, Northwave, or other shoes I've tried.
Maybe my technique has just gotten so smooth it preserves my
shoes... <shrug>

I do find the buckles pretty irritating and prefer a simple
Velcro strap. I often end up with little Sage twigs jammed
into the buckles that make it very difficult to get the
shoes off after a ride. Sometimes it's very frustrating to
wrestle with them when I so badly just want them off after a
long hard ride.

Matt

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Joel Crum wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> I seem to have ripped the soles off the second set of
> shoes in less then a year. Does anybody have
> recommendations for something that will last? I ride
> three or four times a week, lots of hard climbs. I
> have Crank bros Egg Beaters. I am a wuss and twist out
> of the peddle a lot because I think I *might* fall.
> (But only on one side and that's not the side that
> broke.)

My Sidis hold up well to all kinds of abuse. Have you
tried those?

Matt

Whaddabout when your toe gets poked by sagebrush?

JD

Hasn't happened with the Sidis. It will one day, but so
far that's only happened with several other brands (Mr.
Smarty-pants!). The hole is started, but not all the way
through. I need a shoe with reinforcement by the outside
of the pinkie toes, but nobody seems to make one like
that. I'm also on the start of the third season with these
so that's pretty good for me. I've usually ground all the
way through by now.

Matt

I have the cure to that "problem". Shoe goo and a little
piece of old innertube as a patch. Those black Sidis should
camoflauge the cheap fix really well.

JD preserving pinkie toes

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SniffinVinyl said:

So far I am very happy with my Pearl Izumis

Pearl makes some nice high end stuff. Their soles are
especially nice because the I-beam construction is all one
solid piece... and the big rubber lugs are molded into the
sole instead of just glued. The upper is often protected
with a nice strip of rubber that goes all the way around
the outside and covers the toe area as well.

John M

I'm running some Diadora Cobras or Habaneros (don't remember
which) and they tend to be holding up just fine. Fairly
tough against sagebrush and cacti. I'm not real tough on
shoes, except maybe all the standing I do on the SS.

paladin

Joel Crum <crumjdathotmail.com> wrote in
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Thanks to everyone who responded. I'll look into your
recommendations.
:-)

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- Joel C.

"I'm glad everybody is sorry. I'm sorry, too; it was a sorry
incident." FCC chief Michael Powell