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Beej Jorgensen
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16 February 2008, 01:17 UTC #61

Mike Vandeman said:
No response? I thought so.
That reminds me... I'm still waiting for that list of all types of
transportation you've ever used. We need to know which ones are
Vandeman-Approved.
-Beej

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Mike Vandeman
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16 February 2008, 01:55 UTC #62

Siskuwihane said:
Mike Vandeman said:
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
On Feb 13, 11:33 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:23 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >On Feb 11, 8:16 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh <[email hidden]>
> >> >> wrote:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >>news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> > Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You
> >> >> >> > are fooling NO ONE.
> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> >> >> > humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> >> >> >> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> >> >> >> > fond of!
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> And therein lies your deceit.
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable
> >> >> >> negative
> >> >> >> effect on the environment whatsoever.
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons
> >> >> >> incomprehensible to a sane mind.
> >> >> >> A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling.
> >> >> >> Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time.
> >> >> >> What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!!
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of
> >> >> >entertainment. There's never anything much to be gained by responding
> >> >> >to his blatherings.
> >> >> >It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his
> >> >> >rabid misanthropy.
Quoted message said:
> >> >> ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the
> >> >> truth about their selfish, destructive sport.
Quoted message said:
> >> >Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere
Quoted message said:
> >> Prove it, liar.
Quoted message said:
> >If your lazy ass is seated on the plane,
Quoted message said:
> Prove it, liar.
No response? I thought so.
Quoted message said:
> then you're part of the>problem, DUH!
Quoted message said:
This is the part of the thread where Michael J. Vandeman has nothing
more, no facts, no proof, nothing. He's finished and knows it and will
now continue with his third grade drivel. He claimed someone else was
"flagrantly raping the environment" and when asked to prove became as
silent as his dead cat Bob.
"Silent Bob", hehe.
Case closed.
In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim.
So very like a mountain biker....
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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Mike Vandeman
Archived post

16 February 2008, 01:55 UTC #63

Beej Jorgensen said:
Mike Vandeman said:
No response? I thought so.
That reminds me... I'm still waiting for that list of all types of
transportation you've ever used. We need to know which ones are
Vandeman-Approved.
I don't apoprove any of them, least of all mountain biking.
Quoted message said:
-Beej

--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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Siskuwihane
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16 February 2008, 03:49 UTC #64

Mike Vandeman said:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:49 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
Mike Vandeman said:
On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>On Feb 13, 11:33 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:23 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >On Feb 11, 8:16 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh <[email hidden]>
>> >> >> wrote:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >>news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> > Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You
>> >> >> >> > are fooling NO ONE.
>> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> >> >> >> > humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> >> >> >> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>> >> >> >> > fond of!
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> And therein lies your deceit.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable
>> >> >> >> negative
>> >> >> >> effect on the environment whatsoever.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons
>> >> >> >> incomprehensible to a sane mind.
>> >> >> >> A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling.
>> >> >> >> Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for atime.
>> >> >> >> What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!!
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of
>> >> >> >entertainment. There's never anything much to be gained byresponding
>> >> >> >to his blatherings.
>> >> >> >It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for forhis
>> >> >> >rabid misanthropy.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the
>> >> >> truth about their selfish, destructive sport.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >> Prove it, liar.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> >If your lazy ass is seated on the plane,
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> Prove it, liar.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
No response? I thought so.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>> then you're part of the>problem, DUH!
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
>This is the part of the thread where Michael J. Vandeman has nothing
>more, no facts, no proof, nothing. He's finished and knows it and will
>now continue with his third grade drivel. He claimed someone else was
>"flagrantly raping the environment" and when asked to prove became as
>silent as his dead cat Bob.
>"Silent Bob", hehe.
Quoted message said:
Case closed.
In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim.
So very like a mountain biker....
I don't own a mountain bike nor do I ride one, therefore I am not a
mountain biker, that makes you a LIAR.

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pmh
Archived post

16 February 2008, 14:42 UTC #65

Siskuwihane said:
Mike Vandeman said:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:49 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
On Feb 15, 10:54 am, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >On Feb 13, 11:33 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:23 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >On Feb 11, 8:16 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh <[email hidden]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >>news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> > Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You
> >> >> >> >> > are fooling NO ONE.
> >> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> >> >> >> > humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> >> >> >> >> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> >> >> >> >> > fond of!
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> And therein lies your deceit.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable
> >> >> >> >> negative
> >> >> >> >> effect on the environment whatsoever.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons
> >> >> >> >> incomprehensible to a sane mind.
> >> >> >> >> A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling.
> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time.
> >> >> >> >> What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!!
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of
> >> >> >> >entertainment. There's never anything much to be gained by responding
> >> >> >> >to his blatherings.
> >> >> >> >It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his
> >> >> >> >rabid misanthropy.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the
> >> >> >> truth about their selfish, destructive sport.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> Prove it, liar.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> >If your lazy ass is seated on the plane,
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> Prove it, liar.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> No response? I thought so.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >> then you're part of the>problem, DUH!
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
> >This is the part of the thread where Michael J. Vandeman has nothing
> >more, no facts, no proof, nothing. He's finished and knows it and will
> >now continue with his third grade drivel. He claimed someone else was
> >"flagrantly raping the environment" and when asked to prove became as
> >silent as his dead cat Bob.
> >"Silent Bob", hehe.
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Case closed.
Quoted message said:
In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim.
So very like a mountain biker....
I don't own a mountain bike nor do I ride one, therefore I am not a
mountain biker, that makes you a LIAR.
To Mikey, anyone with whom he disagrees on any topic is perforce a
mountain biker. He labeled me a mountain biker years ago, yet I don't
know a single person who owns one!
PMH

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Mike Vandeman
Archived post

17 February 2008, 03:39 UTC #66

Siskuwihane said:
Mike Vandeman said:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:49 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
On Feb 15, 10:54 am, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >On Feb 13, 11:33 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:23 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >On Feb 11, 8:16 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh <[email hidden]>
> >> >> >> wrote:
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote:
> >> >> >> >> "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >>news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> > Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You
> >> >> >> >> > are fooling NO ONE.
> >> >> >> >> > --
> >> >> >> >> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
> >> >> >> >> > humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
> >> >> >> >> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
> >> >> >> >> > fond of!
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> And therein lies your deceit.
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable
> >> >> >> >> negative
> >> >> >> >> effect on the environment whatsoever.
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >> This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons
> >> >> >> >> incomprehensible to a sane mind.
> >> >> >> >> A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling.
> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time.
> >> >> >> >> What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!!
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> >On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of
> >> >> >> >entertainment. There's never anything much to be gained by responding
> >> >> >> >to his blatherings.
> >> >> >> >It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his
> >> >> >> >rabid misanthropy.
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >> ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the
> >> >> >> truth about their selfish, destructive sport.
Quoted message said:
> >> >> >Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere
Quoted message said:
> >> >> Prove it, liar.
Quoted message said:
> >> >If your lazy ass is seated on the plane,
Quoted message said:
> >> Prove it, liar.
Quoted message said:
> No response? I thought so.
Quoted message said:
> >> then you're part of the>problem, DUH!
Quoted message said:
> >This is the part of the thread where Michael J. Vandeman has nothing
> >more, no facts, no proof, nothing. He's finished and knows it and will
> >now continue with his third grade drivel. He claimed someone else was
> >"flagrantly raping the environment" and when asked to prove became as
> >silent as his dead cat Bob.
> >"Silent Bob", hehe.
Quoted message said:
Case closed.
In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim.
So very like a mountain biker....
I don't own a mountain bike nor do I ride one, therefore I am not a
mountain biker, that makes you a LIAR.
I didn't say you are, liar: "So very like a mountain biker". Idiot.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

Report
Mike Vandeman
Archived post

17 February 2008, 03:40 UTC #67

On Sat, 16 Feb 2008 06:42:42 -0800 (PST), pmh <[email hidden]>
Quoted message said:
Siskuwihane said:
Mike Vandeman said:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2008 11:24:49 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>On Feb 15, 10:54 am, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 03:25:19 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
>> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >On Feb 13, 11:33 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 12 Feb 2008 19:05:23 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
>> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >On Feb 12, 8:27 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 18:38:41 -0800 (PST), Siskuwihane
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >On Feb 11, 8:16 pm, Mike Vandeman <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> On Mon, 11 Feb 2008 05:55:45 -0800 (PST), pmh <[email hidden]>
>> >> >> >> wrote:
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >On Feb 11, 12:22 am, "JP" <[email hidden]> wrote:
>> >> >> >> >> "Mike Vandeman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >>news:[email hidden]...
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >> > Sorry, none of this excuses your flagrant rape of the environment. You
>> >> >> >> >> > are fooling NO ONE.
>> >> >> >> >> > --
>> >> >> >> >> > I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
>> >> >> >> >> > humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
>> >> >> >> >> > years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >> > Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are
>> >> >> >> >> > fond of!
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >> >http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >> And therein lies your deceit.
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >> I/we are not flagrently raping the environment, or creating any measurable
>> >> >> >> >> negative
>> >> >> >> >> effect on the environment whatsoever.
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >> This is a falsely documented myth of your own creation for reasons
>> >> >> >> >> incomprehensible to a sane mind.
>> >> >> >> >> A fairy tale you use to justify your antagonistic trolling.
>> >> >> >> >> Unfortunately you can trick the slow-witted, at least for a time.
>> >> >> >> >> What an accomplishment for Micheal Vandeman PhD!!!
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> >On a stormy day such as we're having here, Mikey provides a modicum of
>> >> >> >> >entertainment. There's never anything much to be gained by responding
>> >> >> >> >to his blatherings.
>> >> >> >> >It's instructive to see how widespread is the disdain for for his
>> >> >> >> >rabid misanthropy.
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >> ... among mountain bikers, who can't stand having anyone tell the
>> >> >> >> truth about their selfish, destructive sport.
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> >Mike Vandeman+Commercial Aviation=Raping The Upper Atmosphere
Quoted message said:
>> >> >> Prove it, liar.
Quoted message said:
>> >> >If your lazy ass is seated on the plane,
Quoted message said:
>> >> Prove it, liar.
Quoted message said:
>> No response? I thought so.
Quoted message said:
>> >> then you're part of the>problem, DUH!
Quoted message said:
>> >This is the part of the thread where Michael J. Vandeman has nothing
>> >more, no facts, no proof, nothing. He's finished and knows it and will
>> >now continue with his third grade drivel. He claimed someone else was
>> >"flagrantly raping the environment" and when asked to prove became as
>> >silent as his dead cat Bob.
>> >"Silent Bob", hehe.
Quoted message said:
>Case closed.
Quoted message said:
In other words, you have no evidence whatsoever to support your claim.
So very like a mountain biker....
I don't own a mountain bike nor do I ride one, therefore I am not a
mountain biker, that makes you a LIAR.
To Mikey, anyone with whom he disagrees on any topic is perforce a
mountain biker. He labeled me a mountain biker years ago, yet I don't
know a single person who owns one!
PMH
Prove it.
--
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)
Please don't put a cell phone next to any part of your body that you are fond of!
http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

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