Mt Bike on Maui

I'd say that's a legit cocern. Locals don't like lots of things when it
comes to tourists.
In the back country to roads are twisty and tight, not many bikes want to
share the road with locals or gawking tourists. There might be singletrack
there, but I suspect it's jealously guarded. Urban myth says there are
remote areas (where certain cash crops abound) that even have nasty
Rambo-style traps guarding them.

Maybe you can find a local who will take you out, or maybe they do a tour in
some areas. Then again, it's Maui. I'd save my riding for more suitable
destinations, and snorkel, fish, surf and windsurf instead.

"Drew" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I've been luking here for a while, and finally have something to say!!
I'm on my way to Maui in May, and would like to do some Mt Biking.
I checked out Pete's site, and watched his video of descending the

volcano.

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http://www.petefagerlin.com/maui.htm#top

That sure beats the "downhill" on the cruiser bikes, as if....
Anyone have info on biking in Maui?
I did find a local shop that will rent fairly new to new full sus Konas

for

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a week. I figured that would be better than haulin' my bike there.

Like most places, once there could check the LBS, but they may not want a
howly ( sp) on "their" local trails...

Thanks for any info.........
Drew

Per Drew:

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Like most places, once there could check the LBS, but they may not want a
howly ( sp) on "their" local trails...

Haole. Often prefixed (as in "Damn Yankee"😉 with the gerund form of the
F-bomb.

Maybe things have mellowed since I lived on Oahu a loooong time ago... and maybe
things are mellower in general on Maui.... but my first reaction would be to
watch out for people who want to beat me half to death just because it feels
good to them. My next concern would be the same people in control of
3,000-6,000 pounds of steel.....

This is probably an over-reaction/overstatement because I spend a month back on
Oahu a few years ago and, except for the guy up at Mokuleea with the "Haole, The
Other White Meat" t-shirt, things really did seem to have calmed down - and even
the t-shirt might have been more dark humor than anything else.

But still, I'd definitely keep in mind the fact that I'm a stranger in a strange
land and that it's still probably true that not exactly everybody is ecstatic
that I'm tromping around on their home turf.
--
PeteCresswell

Hawaii would be a lot nicer if we got rid of the Hawaiians. I dont
know why they have a problem with Americans. We brought God to the
heathen islanders and they should be thankful.

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I dont
know why they have a problem with Americans. We brought God to the
heathen islanders and they should be thankful.

Tongue-in-cheek humor noted.
--
PeteCresswell

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Hawaii would be a lot nicer if we got rid of the Hawaiians. I dont
know why they have a problem with Americans. We brought God to the
heathen islanders and they should be thankful.

Little Jimmy Buttpacker {tm} spreadin' the love...

(PeteCresswell) said:

Per [email hidden]:

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I dont
know why they have a problem with Americans. We brought God to the
heathen islanders and they should be thankful.

Tongue-in-cheek humor noted.

Not with Buttpacker! ( LOL city! )

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Per Drew:

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Like most places, once there could check the LBS, but they may not want a
howly ( sp) on "their" local trails...

This is probably an over-reaction/overstatement because I spend a month
back on
Oahu a few years ago and, except for the guy up at Mokuleea with the
"Haole, The
Other White Meat" t-shirt, things really did seem to have calmed down -
and even
the t-shirt might have been more dark humor than anything else.

But still, I'd definitely keep in mind the fact that I'm a stranger in a
strange
land and that it's still probably true that not exactly everybody is
ecstatic
that I'm tromping around on their home turf.
--
PeteCresswell

I have a friend ( my old boss, took his job when he left) who lives on Maui,
but he doesn't Mt Bike.
The concerns are correct, there is a movement to return Hawaii to the
Hawaiians, but it seems if you don't go on their turf, alls OK. they have
areas somewhat similar to an Indian reservation, and those are jealously
protected.

So, I will look for trails, and get a ride or two in. Then enjoy all the
other ocean and rainforest pleasures on Maui.. Ahhh.. Beach from condo..
sun.. good food.... Bikinis.....

Drew ( the other white meat? )

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The concerns are correct, there is a movement to return Hawaii to the

Hawaiians<<

I have an idea-- Lets send the hawaiian savages to Iraq. They can have
their reservation an americans will leave them alone. Or maybe we can
send them to relocation camps-in south dakota so they are far from the
ocean

Drew said:

I've been luking here for a while, and finally have something to say!!
I'm on my way to Maui in May, and would like to do some Mt Biking.

The best legal rides are accessed from the top of Waipoli Rd (where
the pavement ends, or a bit before that). This includes the Skyline
Trail (actually a 4WD road) which goes to the top of Haleakala. You
can start from the top and come down Skyline (as it appears Pete F.
did) but that's more about bragging rights than great mountain biking.
Skyline has a lot of loose volcanic gravel.

A loop that I sometimes do (parked at end of Waipoli pavement) is up
Skyline and down Mamane Trail (single track). This trail intersects
Upper Waiakoa Trail which you can take for more single track (and end
up on paved Waipoli, below where you parked) or you can drop straight
down to the unpaved Waipoli section above your car. These rides are
usually best in the morning, on days when the upper volcano looks
clear.

A good resource for trail info (multiuse, not just bike) is
http://www.hawaiitrails.org/island.asp?island=Maui

As others have suggested, there is, er, informal riding done in other
areas. Behind and around the pineapple fields near Makawao and Olinda
are what I hear about most. The fields are owned/managed by corporate
agribusiness who generally don't staff goons with shotguns. On the
other hand you'll be sharing the trails with local dirt motorcycle
riders. If you try this I suggest finding someone local to go with.

"Bill Manry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 16:18:37 -0800, "Drew" <[email hidden]> wrote:

The best legal rides are accessed from the top of Waipoli Rd (where
the pavement ends, or a bit before that). This includes the Skyline
Trail (actually a 4WD road) which goes to the top of Haleakala. You
can start from the top and come down Skyline (as it appears Pete F.
did) but that's more about bragging rights than great mountain biking.
Skyline has a lot of loose volcanic gravel.

A loop that I sometimes do (parked at end of Waipoli pavement) is up
Skyline and down Mamane Trail (single track). This trail intersects
Upper Waiakoa Trail which you can take for more single track (and end
up on paved Waipoli, below where you parked) or you can drop straight
down to the unpaved Waipoli section above your car. These rides are
usually best in the morning, on days when the upper volcano looks
clear.

A good resource for trail info (multiuse, not just bike) is
http://www.hawaiitrails.org/island.asp?island=Maui

As others have suggested, there is, er, informal riding done in other
areas. Behind and around the pineapple fields near Makawao and Olinda
are what I hear about most. The fields are owned/managed by corporate
agribusiness who generally don't staff goons with shotguns. On the
other hand you'll be sharing the trails with local dirt motorcycle
riders. If you try this I suggest finding someone local to go with.

Thanks for the information. I will be check ing out the trail suggested, and
I prefer to ride up what I ride down, but I just might go for the bragging
rights anyway!!!

Aloha!!
Drew

Bill Manry said:

You
can start from the top and come down Skyline (as it appears Pete F.
did) but that's more about bragging rights than great mountain biking.
Skyline has a lot of loose volcanic gravel.

It wasn't about bragging rights, it was about poaching (it's legal now
though) Skyline down through a bunch of biozones while losing a bunch of
altitude. The descent, although it's jeep road/double track, was a blast
because it was so loose and the penalty for a mistake at speed was
tumbling through lava fields.

Mamane wasn't anything special IMO. I preferred the technical riding on
Wailuku.

Some relatively ancient Maui info: http://www.petefagerlin.com/maui.htm

On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 21:33:34 GMT, pete fagerlin <[email hidden]>

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It wasn't about bragging rights, it was about poaching (it's legal now
though) Skyline down through a bunch of biozones while losing a bunch of
altitude. The descent, although it's jeep road/double track, was a blast
because it was so loose and the penalty for a mistake at speed was
tumbling through lava fields.

Mamane wasn't anything special IMO. I preferred the technical riding on
Wailuku.

Some relatively ancient Maui info: http://www.petefagerlin.com/maui.htm

Sorry Pete, I wasn't trying to assign my opinions to you. And I agree
about Mamane, compared to what I ride in SF Bay area it is nothing
remarkable except that it is legal singletrack, which is in short
supply on Maui. Where is the trail you call Wailuku? That's not a
name I recognize (except for the town).

Bill Manry said:

Where is the trail you call Wailuku? That's not a
name I recognize (except for the town).

Apparently it's been renamed since I rode it.

http://www.hawaiitrails.org/trail.asp?TrailID=MA+11+022&island=Maui

p e t e f a g e r l i n said:

Apparently it's been renamed since I rode it.

http://www.hawaiitrails.org/trail.asp?TrailID=MA+11+022&island=Maui

Ah...thought it might have been Upper Waiakoa. This is (optionally)
part of the large loop ride I described. I think it is a bit more
groomed since you rode it, Pete. On the lower part (called Waiakoa
Loop) they actually put in rubber mesh mats at some of the tight
turns.