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  1. Original post
    Sir Ridesalot
    Archived post
    #1

    Hi there.

    Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    to arrive.

    Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    it.

    Thanks very much from Peter

    Report
  2. Qui si parla Campagnolo
    Archived post
    #2
    Sir Ridesalot said:

    Hi there.

    Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    to arrive.

    Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    it.

    Thanks very much from Peter

    Move them down the handlebar. The bend of older Cinelli has always
    been such that ERGO cant outwards. OR grind a wee bit of lever body
    away on the upper inside portion, where the brake cable housing goes
    in, to allow the levers to be aligned.

    Report
  3. Sir Ridesalot
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    #3
    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:
    Sir Ridesalot said:

    Hi there.

    Quoted message said:

    Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    Quoted message said:

    I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    to arrive.

    Quoted message said:

    Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    it.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks very much from Peter

    Move them down the handlebar. The bend of older Cinelli has always
    been such that ERGO cant outwards. OR grind a wee bit of lever body
    away on the upper inside portion, where the brake cable housing goes
    in, to allow the levers to be aligned.- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Hi and thanks Peter.

    Funny thing is that the the 2001 Mirage did not seem to be canted like
    these are. I think I'll just get new bars though rather than moving
    the levers down to where it would be uncomfortable to use them.
    Besides which the ends of the levers will be below the bar if I do
    that. I'll take a lever with me to be sure it fits without canting.

    Appreciatively, Peter

    Report
  4. Sir Ridesalot
    Archived post
    #4
    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:
    Sir Ridesalot said:

    Hi there.

    Quoted message said:

    Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    Quoted message said:

    I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    to arrive.

    Quoted message said:

    Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    it.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks very much from Peter

    Move them down the handlebar. The bend of older Cinelli has always
    been such that ERGO cant outwards. OR grind a wee bit of lever body
    away on the upper inside portion, where the brake cable housing goes
    in, to allow the levers to be aligned.- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Hello again Peter.

    Tomorrow if I can not get a pair of used non-Cinelli bars I may
    consider doing what you suggest and grind the bodies. However would
    this not void the warranty on these Ergos? They are brand new.

    Thanks from Peter

    Report
  5. Hank Wirtz
    Archived post
    #5
    Sir Ridesalot said:
    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    On Apr 25, 8:01 pm, Sir Ridesalot <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi there.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    to arrive.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks very much from Peter

    Quoted message said:

    Move them down the handlebar. The bend of older Cinelli has always
    been such that ERGO cant outwards. OR grind a wee bit of lever body
    away on the upper inside portion, where the brake cable housing goes
    in, to allow the levers to be aligned.- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:

    - Show quoted text -

    Hi and thanks Peter.

    Funny thing is that the the 2001 Mirage did not seem to be canted like
    these are. I think I'll just get new bars though rather than moving
    the levers down to where it would be uncomfortable to use them.
    Besides which the ends of the levers will be below the bar if I do
    that. I'll take a lever with me to be sure it fits without canting.

    Appreciatively, Peter- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Tilt the bars up so the ramps are closer to level. I briefly had 9sp
    round-top Veloce Ergos on a Cinelli 64 bar. Not a good match. When I
    tilted the bars up enough, the hooks were like 45 degrees from the
    ground.

    I got some Nitto Noodles, and was amazed how much more I liked the
    bend of them, such that the tops of the levers extend straight from
    the ramps, which are almost parallel to the ground. I can put my hands
    anywhere along the ramps, and they don't slide down at all.

    Report
  6. Sir Ridesalot
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    #6
    Sir Ridesalot said:
    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    On Apr 25, 8:01 pm, Sir Ridesalot <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi there.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    to arrive.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks very much from Peter

    Quoted message said:

    Move them down the handlebar. The bend of older Cinelli has always
    been such that ERGO cant outwards. OR grind a wee bit of lever body
    away on the upper inside portion, where the brake cable housing goes
    in, to allow the levers to be aligned.- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:

    - Show quoted text -

    Hi and thanks Peter.

    Funny thing is that the the 2001 Mirage did not seem to be canted like
    these are. I think I'll just get new bars though rather than moving
    the levers down to where it would be uncomfortable to use them.
    Besides which the ends of the levers will be below the bar if I do
    that. I'll take a lever with me to be sure it fits without canting.

    Appreciatively, Peter- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Hey there Peter!

    I woke up at 2:50 EST and remembered I had some other photos of that
    bike that I had taken to post on Flickr. So I checked the album I had
    them in. The bars are the Cinelli ones that are on the bike now. one
    image is looking at the Ergos on the bike and was taken from 12
    0'clock low. And in that image the Ergos are canted outward!

    I can not believe I rode that bicycle for about 5 years and did not
    notice that the Ergos were canted outward on it! I guess that the
    canting does not make much difference when I am braking. When i
    noticed the canted Ergo body on the bike when I was setting it up a
    few days ago my concern was the bike falling over and striking on the
    outermost part of the Ergo which would be the brake/shifter levers
    assembly. I may still get another bar later to match the bar on my
    Sport Racing Miele. That way the placement of the Ergos would be in
    the same vertical plane on both bikes.

    I still can not believe that I did not notice the canted Ergo bodies
    years ago. (Shakes his head in wonder)

    Once again I must thank this group's denizens for their timely and
    helpful advice.

    Cheers from Peter

    Report
  7. Qui si parla Campagnolo
    Archived post
    #7
    Sir Ridesalot said:
    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    On Apr 25, 8:01 pm, Sir Ridesalot <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hi there.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    to arrive.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks very much from Peter

    Quoted message said:

    Move them down the handlebar. The bend of older Cinelli has always
    been such that ERGO cant outwards. OR grind a wee bit of lever body
    away on the upper inside portion, where the brake cable housing goes
    in, to allow the levers to be aligned.- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:

    - Show quoted text -

    Hello again Peter.

    Tomorrow if I can not get a pair of used non-Cinelli bars I may
    consider doing what you suggest and grind the bodies. However would
    this not void the warranty on these Ergos? They are brand new.

    Thanks from Peter

    I doubt it would do anything to the warranty altho I have never
    warrantied a Campag lever, just repaired it locally if the infamous EC-
    RE-111 breaks.

    Report
  8. Sir Ridesalot
    Archived post
    #8
    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:
    Sir Ridesalot said:

    On Apr 26, 8:48 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Apr 25, 8:01 pm, Sir Ridesalot <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Hi there.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    > *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    > When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    > shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    > on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    > the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    > Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    > from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    > perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    > aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    > to arrive.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    > alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    > are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    > it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Thanks very much from Peter

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Move them down the handlebar. The bend of older Cinelli has always
    been such that ERGO cant outwards. OR grind a wee bit of lever body
    away on the upper inside portion, where the brake cable housing goes
    in, to allow the levers to be aligned.- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    - Show quoted text -

    Quoted message said:

    Hello again Peter.

    Quoted message said:

    Tomorrow if I can not get a pair of used non-Cinelli bars I may
    consider doing what you suggest and grind the bodies. However would
    this not void the warranty on these Ergos? They are brand new.

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks from Peter

    I doubt it would do anything to the warranty altho I have never
    warrantied a Campag lever, just repaired it locally if the infamous EC-
    RE-111 breaks.- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Thanks again Peter.

    I got a Modolo E-2091 Anatomic bar, that is in pristine condition, at
    the re-cycle shop for $2.00. I already had a nice stem they would
    fit. The Ergos fit the Modolo bar just fine. I'll take the bike out
    for a nice long ride tomorrow.

    Now what do I do with a pair of old slightly scuffed Cinelli bars? VBG

    Cheers from Peter

    Report
  9. Sir Ridesalot
    Archived post
    #9
    Sir Ridesalot said:
    Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

    On Apr 27, 7:53 pm, Sir Ridesalot <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Apr 26, 8:48 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > On Apr 25, 8:01 pm, Sir Ridesalot <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Hi there.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    > > *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    > > When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    > > shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    > > on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    > > the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    > > Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    > > from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    > > perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    > > aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    > > to arrive.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    > > alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    > > are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    > > it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Thanks very much from Peter

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Move them down the handlebar. The bend of older Cinelli has always
    > been such that ERGO cant outwards. OR grind a wee bit of lever body
    > away on the upper inside portion, where the brake cable housing goes
    > in, to allow the levers to be aligned.- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > - Show quoted text -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Hello again Peter.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Tomorrow if I can not get a pair of used non-Cinelli bars I may
    consider doing what you suggest and grind the bodies. However would
    this not void the warranty on these Ergos? They are brand new.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Thanks from Peter

    Quoted message said:

    I doubt it would do anything to the warranty altho I have never
    warrantied a Campag lever, just repaired it locally if the infamous EC-
    RE-111 breaks.- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:

    - Show quoted text -

    Thanks again Peter.

    I got a Modolo E-2091 Anatomic bar, that is in pristine condition, at
    the re-cycle shop for $2.00. I already had a nice stem they would
    fit. The Ergos fit the Modolo bar just fine. I'll take the bike out
    for a nice long ride tomorrow.

    Now what do I do with a pair of old slightly scuffed Cinelli bars? VBG

    Cheers from Peter- Hide quoted text -

    - Show quoted text -

    Hi there.

    To end this saga. i was able to get the Cinelli Bars onto my Radical
    adjustable quill stem which is on my mountain bike. I mounted my Exage
    levers and my Ultegra 8 speed bar ends onto the bars and that bike is
    now set to go too.

    Incidentaly and perhaps some thing for you to be aware of, the clamps
    on the 2006 Mirage 9 speed levers were so small a diameter that the
    allen head bolt came off the clamps as I loosened them to move the
    levers up from the drops when installing them. I guess you need to
    specify a larger than 26 mm clamp when ordering these levers if you
    are going to use them on a Cinelli or other larger diameter bar.

    Cheers from Peter

    Report
  10. Hank Wirtz
    Archived post
    #10
    Sir Ridesalot said:
    Sir Ridesalot said:

    On Apr 28, 9:03 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Apr 27, 7:53 pm, Sir Ridesalot <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > On Apr 26, 8:48 am, Qui si parla Campagnolo <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > On Apr 25, 8:01 pm, Sir Ridesalot <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > Hi there.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > Thank goodness I can see the new messages again.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > I mounted my new 2006 Mirage 9 speed Ergos on my Cinelli bars.
    > > > *HOWEVER* they are both canted to the outside portion of the bars.
    > > > When you look at the handlebars from straight ahead the brake lever/
    > > > shifter is on the outside the bar. When I squeeze the lever it lands
    > > > on the outside of the bar rather than travelling towards the center of
    > > > the bar - the forward vertical part of the drops hook. My 2001 Mirage
    > > > Ergos did not do this when I had them on these very same bars. Looking
    > > > from the front of t he bike towards the bars the brake levers alligned
    > > > perfectly with the vertical part of the hook of the bars as did the
    > > > aero levers I was using temporarilly whilst waiting for the new Ergos
    > > > to arrive.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > Can any one suggest why the lever portions of the Ergos is not
    > > > alligning with the vertical portion of the bars like they should and
    > > > are canted to the outside? is this a new design feature? I do not like
    > > > it.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > > Thanks very much from Peter

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Move them down the handlebar. The bend of older Cinelli has always
    > > been such that ERGO cant outwards. OR grind a wee bit of lever body
    > > away on the upper inside portion, where the brake cable housing goes
    > > in, to allow the levers to be aligned.- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > - Show quoted text -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Hello again Peter.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Tomorrow if I can not get a pair of used non-Cinelli bars I may
    > consider doing what you suggest and grind the bodies. However would
    > this not void the warranty on these Ergos? They are brand new.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > Thanks from Peter

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I doubt it would do anything to the warranty altho I have never
    warrantied a Campag lever, just repaired it locally if the infamous EC-
    RE-111 breaks.- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    - Show quoted text -

    Quoted message said:

    Thanks again Peter.

    Quoted message said:

    I got a Modolo E-2091 Anatomic bar, that is in pristine condition, at
    the re-cycle shop for $2.00. I already had a nice stem they would
    fit. The Ergos fit the Modolo bar just fine. I'll take the bike out
    for a nice long ride tomorrow.

    Quoted message said:

    Now what do I do with a pair of old slightly scuffed Cinelli bars? VBG

    Quoted message said:

    Cheers from Peter- Hide quoted text -

    Quoted message said:

    - Show quoted text -

    Hi there.

    To end this saga. i was able to get the Cinelli Bars onto my Radical
    adjustable quill stem which is on my mountain bike. I mounted my Exage
    levers and my Ultegra 8 speed bar ends onto the bars and that bike is
    now set to go too.

    Incidentaly and perhaps some thing for you to be aware of, the clamps
    on the 2006 Mirage 9 speed levers were so small a diameter that the
    allen head bolt came off the clamps as I loosened them to move the
    levers up from the drops when installing them. I guess you need to
    specify a larger than 26 mm clamp when ordering these levers if you
    are going to use them on a Cinelli or other larger diameter bar.

    Cheers from Peter

    Stem clamp area may vary between Cinelli and others, but the brake
    lever clamps are standardized at 24mm. Campy clamps have been tight on
    every bar I've put them on.

    Report

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