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  1. Gordon H said:

    Roger <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Theo" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    > Yes, I remember that impression she gave. All I can say is that she has
    > come a *long* way in under a year. Above all don't miss the repeat of the
    > U.R.C. programme!

    Quoted message said:

    But when is the repeat ? It wasn't on BBC1 or 2 last wednesday, the only
    Beebs we receive over here in Holland (and no local stations like BBC
    Scotland :-(

    The 'repeat' is on BBC 1 tonight (Friday) at 9.00 pm. As to where
    Bernard saw the original I can only conjecture that they had an advance
    showing on BBC Scotland. AFAICT it wasn't on BBC 3 or 4 earlier this
    week.


    Damn! That clashes with "50 Not Out", a programme about Stephen Fry,
    followed by "A Bit of Fry and Laurie etc.

    Good thing I've got two DVRs... :-)

    I've got one that will record both at the same time if I wanted :-\
    I think I'll set it to record this instead:

    21:00 - Ganges: Waterland BBC2, ends 21:50

    "Over 1,200 miles from her birthplace in the Himalayas, the great
    river begins to break apart," intones narrator Sudha Bhuchar as we
    watch a dazzling montage of suitably river-ish activities, including a
    man sitting in a boat and a small boar thrashing around in mud. Thus
    begins the final segment of this luxurious, leisurely and unabashedly
    pompous portrait of the Ganges' extraordinary biodiversity...

    RT reviewer - Sarah Dempster

    Mind you I can record something on BBC1 and BBC4 at the same time as
    watching BBC2. It all depends on which MUXes I need tuned in.
    --
    Phil Cook, last hill: Angletarn Pikes via Beda Fell.
    http://www.p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk/May07/martin9.htm

  2. Gordon H said:

    Roger <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The 'repeat' is on BBC 1 tonight (Friday) at 9.00 pm. As to where
    Bernard saw the original I can only conjecture that they had an advance
    showing on BBC Scotland. AFAICT it wasn't on BBC 3 or 4 earlier this
    week.


    Damn! That clashes with "50 Not Out", a programme about Stephen Fry,
    followed by "A Bit of Fry and Laurie etc.

    Good thing I've got two DVRs... :-)

    Ah but '50 Not Out' is repeated Saturday at 01:30 so you could record that
    instead.
    --
    Dave

  3. In article <[email hidden]>, Roger
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Theo" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Yes, I remember that impression she gave. All I can say is that she has
    come a *long* way in under a year. Above all don't miss the repeat of the
    U.R.C. programme!

    Quoted message said:

    But when is the repeat ? It wasn't on BBC1 or 2 last wednesday, the only
    Beebs we receive over here in Holland (and no local stations like BBC
    Scotland :-(

    The 'repeat' is on BBC 1 tonight (Friday) at 9.00 pm. As to where
    Bernard saw the original I can only conjecture that they had an advance
    showing on BBC Scotland. AFAICT it wasn't on BBC 3 or 4 earlier this
    week.

    Yes it was on BBC 1 Scotland on Wednesday and is not on today (Friday)
    in Scotland.

    I had read there was a BBC4 repeat later but can't confirm that as I've
    not got my Radio Times yet.

    --
    Bernard Hill
    Selkirk, Scotland

  4. Phil Cook <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > > Yes, I remember that impression she gave. All I can say is that she has
    > > come a *long* way in under a year. Above all don't miss the repeat of the
    > > U.R.C. programme!

    The 'repeat' is on BBC 1 tonight (Friday) at 9.00 pm. As to where
    Bernard saw the original I can only conjecture that they had an advance
    showing on BBC Scotland. AFAICT it wasn't on BBC 3 or 4 earlier this
    week.


    Damn! That clashes with "50 Not Out", a programme about Stephen Fry,
    followed by "A Bit of Fry and Laurie etc.

    Good thing I've got two DVRs... :-)

    I've got one that will record both at the same time if I wanted :-\
    I think I'll set it to record this instead:

    21:00 - Ganges: Waterland BBC2, ends 21:50

    "Over 1,200 miles from her birthplace in the Himalayas, the great
    river begins to break apart," intones narrator Sudha Bhuchar as we
    watch a dazzling montage of suitably river-ish activities, including a
    man sitting in a boat and a small boar thrashing around in mud. Thus
    begins the final segment of this luxurious, leisurely and unabashedly
    pompous portrait of the Ganges' extraordinary biodiversity...

    RT reviewer - Sarah Dempster

    Mind you I can record something on BBC1 and BBC4 at the same time as
    watching BBC2. It all depends on which MUXes I need tuned in.

    8-p
    It's a staying-in night by the looks of it, we usually go dancing, but
    I'm tired....
    --
    Gordon H

  5. Dave Pickles <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Gordon H said:

    Roger <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    The 'repeat' is on BBC 1 tonight (Friday) at 9.00 pm. As to where
    Bernard saw the original I can only conjecture that they had an advance
    showing on BBC Scotland. AFAICT it wasn't on BBC 3 or 4 earlier this
    week.


    Damn! That clashes with "50 Not Out", a programme about Stephen Fry,
    followed by "A Bit of Fry and Laurie etc.

    Good thing I've got two DVRs... :-)

    Ah but '50 Not Out' is repeated Saturday at 01:30 so you could record that
    instead.

    Interesting, hadn't noticed, so I might as well watch Julia.
    <Salivates>
    --
    Gordon H

  6. Bernard Hill said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Roger
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Theo" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:

    > Yes, I remember that impression she gave. All I can say is that she has
    > come a *long* way in under a year. Above all don't miss the repeat of the
    > U.R.C. programme!

    Quoted message said:

    I had read there was a BBC4 repeat later but can't confirm that as I've
    not got my Radio Times yet.

    In England it is repeated tomorrow. Sat 18th 18:35 - Ultimate Rock
    Climb BBC2, ends 19:35

    --
    Phil Cook, last hill: Angletarn Pikes via Beda Fell.
    http://www.p-t-cook.freeserve.co.uk/May07/martin9.htm

  7. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Duncan Gray said:

    "John P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Duncan Gray said:

    We had Coast, then a similar formula applied to Mountains. What
    bets, coming to your TV soon, a journey down our greatest rivers.

    Am I too late to © that idea?

    Possibly - Great British Journeys starts Tuesday 14 Aug, 8pm.
    Repeated Thursday 16 Aug, 7pm (BBC2 I think)

    www.greatbritishjourneys.com

    Quoted message said:

    Activity in the outdoors seems to be TV flavour of the month.

    Quoted message said:

    I see there's also Julia Bradbury rock climbing on BBC1 8pm wednesday
    and 6 hours of live climbing from the Cairngorms with Dave MacLeod,
    Cubby and various others on BBC2 on Saturday afternoon

    6hours live climbing? All I can see on the BBC2 listings for tomorrow is
    a 1hr programme from 5.25pm-6.35pm :-(

    Andrew

    --
    +----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+
    | Andrew Conroy, Owl-Art Un-Ltd. | email: [email hidden] |
    | Coming to you on an Acorn RiscPC SA110 | |
    +----------------------------------------+---------------------------------+
    The impossible I can do at once, miracles take a little longer!!

  8. "Andrew Conroy" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Duncan Gray said:

    "John P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Duncan Gray wrote:

    > We had Coast, then a similar formula applied to Mountains. What
    > bets, coming to your TV soon, a journey down our greatest rivers.
    >
    > Am I too late to © that idea?
    >

    Possibly - Great British Journeys starts Tuesday 14 Aug, 8pm.
    Repeated Thursday 16 Aug, 7pm (BBC2 I think)

    www.greatbritishjourneys.com

    Quoted message said:

    Activity in the outdoors seems to be TV flavour of the month.

    Quoted message said:

    I see there's also Julia Bradbury rock climbing on BBC1 8pm wednesday
    and 6 hours of live climbing from the Cairngorms with Dave MacLeod,
    Cubby and various others on BBC2 on Saturday afternoon

    6hours live climbing? All I can see on the BBC2 listings for tomorrow is
    a 1hr programme from 5.25pm-6.35pm :-(

    my listing says:
    The Great Climb
    Saturday 18 August
    1:00pm - 7:05pm
    BBC2 Scotland

    In the BBC's most ambitious outdoor live broadcast for 40 years, eight of
    the world's best climbers will scale the massive Shelter Stone and Hell's
    Lum rock faces in the heart if the Cairngorms. The basin of Loch A'an is
    surrounded by towering cliffs of alipine magnitude, like nowhere else in
    Britain. There are also features on the local landscape, environment and
    wildlife.

    However,

    the weather forecast is pretty marginal. They might just be far enough north
    to miss the worst of it, but Richard Else, interviewed on the radio this
    morning, said they might have to postpone the climbing until Sunday. Don't
    know what that would do to the broadcast times.

  9. The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Duncan Gray" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    6hours live climbing? All I can see on the BBC2 listings for tomorrow is
    a 1hr programme from 5.25pm-6.35pm :-(

    Quoted message said:

    my listing says:
    The Great Climb
    Saturday 18 August
    1:00pm - 7:05pm
    BBC2 Scotland

    Quoted message said:

    In the BBC's most ambitious outdoor live broadcast for 40 years, eight of
    the world's best climbers will scale the massive Shelter Stone and Hell's
    Lum rock faces in the heart if the Cairngorms. The basin of Loch A'an is
    surrounded by towering cliffs of alipine magnitude, like nowhere else in
    Britain. There are also features on the local landscape, environment and
    wildlife.

    As is often the case viewers in Scotland interested in such activities
    get preferential treatment to those in England and Wales who have the
    films Gandhi and Carry On Henry to look forward to (or not as the case
    may be).

    The program is allegedly marking 40 years since Boningtons televised
    ascent of The Old Man of Hoy. It is presented by someone called Dougie
    Vipond (who?). Presumably Ian MacNaught-Davies is long past his sell-by
    date, if not dead.

    --
    Roger Chapman
    Nearest Marilyn still to be visited - Great Orme.
    89 miles as the crow flies,
    considerably more as the walker drives.

  10. In article <[email hidden]>, Andrew Conroy
    <[email hidden]> writes

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Duncan Gray said:

    "John P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Duncan Gray wrote:

    > We had Coast, then a similar formula applied to Mountains. What
    > bets, coming to your TV soon, a journey down our greatest rivers.
    >
    > Am I too late to © that idea?
    >

    Possibly - Great British Journeys starts Tuesday 14 Aug, 8pm.
    Repeated Thursday 16 Aug, 7pm (BBC2 I think)

    www.greatbritishjourneys.com

    Quoted message said:

    Activity in the outdoors seems to be TV flavour of the month.

    Quoted message said:

    I see there's also Julia Bradbury rock climbing on BBC1 8pm wednesday
    and 6 hours of live climbing from the Cairngorms with Dave MacLeod,
    Cubby and various others on BBC2 on Saturday afternoon

    6hours live climbing? All I can see on the BBC2 listings for tomorrow is
    a 1hr programme from 5.25pm-6.35pm :-(

    Andrew

    While there's a half-hour scheduled on BBC2 Scotland at 13:00 Saturday,
    the website says it's delayed due to bad weather until 19 Aug.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/scotland/greatclimb/

    --
    Bernard Hill
    Braeburn Software
    Author of Music Publisher system
    Music Software written by musicians for musicians
    http://www.braeburn.co.uk
    Selkirk, Scotland

  11. "Roger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    The message <[email hidden]>
    from "Duncan Gray" <[email hidden]> contains these words:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    6hours live climbing? All I can see on the BBC2 listings for tomorrow
    is
    a 1hr programme from 5.25pm-6.35pm :-(

    Quoted message said:

    my listing says:
    The Great Climb
    Saturday 18 August
    1:00pm - 7:05pm
    BBC2 Scotland

    Quoted message said:

    In the BBC's most ambitious outdoor live broadcast for 40 years, eight of
    the world's best climbers will scale the massive Shelter Stone and Hell's
    Lum rock faces in the heart if the Cairngorms. The basin of Loch A'an is
    surrounded by towering cliffs of alipine magnitude, like nowhere else in
    Britain. There are also features on the local landscape, environment and
    wildlife.

    As is often the case viewers in Scotland interested in such activities
    get preferential treatment to those in England and Wales who have the
    films Gandhi and Carry On Henry to look forward to (or not as the case
    may be).

    The program is allegedly marking 40 years since Boningtons televised
    ascent of The Old Man of Hoy. It is presented by someone called Dougie
    Vipond (who?). Presumably Ian MacNaught-Davies is long past his sell-by
    date, if not dead.

    Dougie Vipond would be the obvious choice since he's pretty well currently
    cornered the market in presenting this sort of programming in Scotland.

    He is the regular presenter on The Adventure Show. If you've not seen it,
    it's a monthly hour of features on outdoor activities. It's shown on BBC2,
    presumably only in Scotland. For the show, Dougie makes a decent attempt at
    a few activities, such as climbing, running triathlons, I recall he did the
    big cycling event which crosses the Bealach na Ba.

    Our own Chris T also makes appearances on the programme.

    Anyway, since the TV show is postponed for the day I suppose I'll have to go
    and do some painting this afternoon instead. bah...

  12. Mike Clark said:
    Quoted message said:

    On Ultimate Rock Climbs shown at 8pm this evening she clearly
    states that she has never climbed and the programme shows her
    having 2 days tuition indoors and then doing 3 increasingly
    tough climbs in Cornwall, Snowdonia and a sea stack (Old Man of
    Stoer) in the North of Scotland.

    In the first series of Wainwright walks Julia Bradbury stated
    that she was new to hillwalking. Certainly on "Sharp Edge" on
    Blencathra she looked somewhat nervous and unfamiliar with such
    situtations.

    She was pretty impressive! Although she clearly has natural balance
    and rhythm even when boulder hopping on the Wainwright walks. But
    who is Tim (Emmett)? And how likely is it for the average Joe/Jane
    to find one such expert to take them under their wing at the average
    climbing club?

    --
    Chris Game

    Change is inevitable, except from a vending machine.

  13. Chris Game <[email hidden]> wrote

    Quoted message said:


    She was pretty impressive! Although she clearly has natural balance
    and rhythm even when boulder hopping on the Wainwright walks. But
    who is Tim (Emmett)? And how likely is it for the average Joe/Jane
    to find one such expert to take them under their wing at the average
    climbing club?


    She looks a natural to me, a non-climber, and she has tremendous
    courage. Her guide on the three climbs was the perfect partner for
    her, I thought.
    He had a touch of the Joe Brown/Don Willans gang about him, the slack
    rope walking might have been one of their stunts...
    --
    Gordon H

  14. In message <[email hidden]>
    "Duncan Gray" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    [snip]

    Quoted message said:

    my listing says:
    The Great Climb
    Saturday 18 August
    1:00pm - 7:05pm
    BBC2 Scotland

    In the BBC's most ambitious outdoor live broadcast for 40 years

    Never rely on mountain weather. Particularly mountain weather in
    Scotland!

    Mike
    --
    o/ \\ // |\ ,_ o Mike Clark
    <\__,\\ // __o | \ / /\, "A mountain climbing, cycling, skiing,
    "> || _`\<,_ |__\ \> | immunology lecturer, antibody engineer and
    ` || (_)/ (_) | \corn computer user"

  15. In message <[email hidden]>

    Roger said:

    Presumably Ian MacNaught-Davies is long past his sell-by date, if not
    dead.

    He is still going strong and is still listed in the Alpine Club members
    handbook. Certainly he has made several appearances at Alpine Club
    events to mark the 150th anniversary of its formation.

    Mike
    --
    o/ \\ // |\ ,_ o Mike Clark
    <\__,\\ // __o | \ / /\, "A mountain climbing, cycling, skiing,
    "> || _`\<,_ |__\ \> | immunology lecturer, antibody engineer and
    ` || (_)/ (_) | \corn computer user"

  16. Mike Clark said:

    In message <[email hidden]>
    Bernard Hill <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, Chris Malcolm
    <[email hidden]> writes


    [snip]

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I've only seen a couple of the walking ones, with a bit of light
    scrambling thrown in, but it's clear from the practised way she moves
    her hands and feet on it that Bradbury is no stranger to rock.

    Hmm. Depends on the timing.

    On Ultimate Rock Climbs shown at 8pm this evening she clearly states
    that she has never climbed and the programme shows her having 2 days
    tuition indoors and then doing 3 increasingly tough climbs in Cornwall,
    Snowdonia and a sea stack (Old Man of Stoer) in the North of Scotland.

    Quoted message said:

    In the first series of Wainwright walks Julia Bradbury stated that she
    was new to hillwalking. Certainly on "Sharp Edge" on Blencathra she
    looked somewhat nervous and unfamiliar with such situtations.

    I just meant the way she placed her hands and feet when moving over
    it. The kind of familiarity I detected doesn't necessarily mean she
    had ever climbed or hill walked before. I suspect it comes more from
    the kind of terrain you got used to in early childhood. Due to
    childhood illnesses I came late to climbing and hill walking, but
    playing in quarries when I was very young had given me an
    understanding of walking and scrambling on rough surfaces which
    carried over in adulthood, and which lots of adults in our
    over-protected civilisation never got as children, and it shows in the
    way they walk and scramble over rough ground as adults.

    --
    Chris Malcolm [email hidden] DoD #205
    IPAB, Informatics, JCMB, King's Buildings, Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK
    [http://www.dai.ed.ac.uk/homes/cam/]

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