Motoring and trolls

[Nigel Cliffe]

Simon Brooke wrote:
> I've been using Usenet for more than twenty years. In that time, I've
> had a number of 'home' groups, groups on which I've hung out and
> spent a fair bit of time. All of them, except this one, have been
> destroyed by trolls and are now moribund.
>
> Finally, there are a number of people whom we all know are here
> fundamentally as trolls,.........


I notice that some of those who seem to have all but destroyed a.r.b.r seems
to have suddenly popped up here. So far no responses, so perhaps they will
get bored.


- Nigel



--
Nigel Cliffe,
Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

 

[Just zis Guy, you know?]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:42:49 -0000, "Nigel Cliffe" <[email protected]>
said in <[email protected]>:

>I notice that some of those who seem to have all but destroyed a.r.b.r seems
>to have suddenly popped up here. So far no responses, so perhaps they will
>get bored.

No, that was Ed Dolan. He hijacked the group over a year ago, and
it's been haemorrhaging members ever since. It predates the "monkey
pox" by some months, according to my research (if you can call half an
hour faffing around with Google metrics research).

Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

 

[Nigel Cliffe]

Just zis Guy, you know? wrote:
> On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:42:49 -0000, "Nigel Cliffe" <[email protected]>
> said in <[email protected]>:
>
>> I notice that some of those who seem to have all but destroyed
>> a.r.b.r seems to have suddenly popped up here. So far no responses,
>> so perhaps they will get bored.
>
> No, that was Ed Dolan. He hijacked the group over a year ago, and
> it's been haemorrhaging members ever since. It predates the "monkey
> pox" by some months, according to my research (if you can call half an
> hour faffing around with Google metrics research).

Ok, rephrase to "those who continue to make a.b.r.r all but useless".
a.b.r.r went through a brief improvement a few months ago, but seems to have
hit terminal decline again. Yes, I do read the well known bent forum, but
a web interface is pretty slow compared even to Outlook Depressed.



btw. completely off topic, but what new trains is Santa bringing you Guy ?
My pal in deepest Essex informs me that there are new etches awaiting
collection for Toby the Tram and other GER locos in 2mm finescale.



- Nigel


--
Nigel Cliffe,
Webmaster at http://www.2mm.org.uk/

 

[Just zis Guy, you know?]

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:17:50 -0000, "Nigel Cliffe" <[email protected]>
said in <[email protected]>:

>>> I notice that some of those who seem to have all but destroyed
>>> a.r.b.r seems to have suddenly popped up here. So far no responses,
>>> so perhaps they will get bored.
>> No, that was Ed Dolan. He hijacked the group over a year ago, and
>> it's been haemorrhaging members ever since. It predates the "monkey
>> pox" by some months, according to my research (if you can call half an
>> hour faffing around with Google metrics research).
>Ok, rephrase to "those who continue to make a.b.r.r all but useless".
>a.b.r.r went through a brief improvement a few months ago, but seems to have
>hit terminal decline again. Yes, I do read the well known bent forum, but
>a web interface is pretty slow compared even to Outlook Depressed.

Yes, I think that is an uncontroversial assessment

>btw. completely off topic, but what new trains is Santa bringing you Guy ?
>My pal in deepest Essex informs me that there are new etches awaiting
>collection for Toby the Tram and other GER locos in 2mm finescale.

2mm finescale is a bit beyond me, I'm afraid, although a steam tram
engine would go well on our layout I'm hoping for the Hornby
Class 110 set in early BR green, that will do very nicely on our
branch line and ring the changes with the N2. But of course I really
want the new A3 Pacific, which is the train equivalent of a titanium
Brompton in desirability if not in cost...

Guy
--
http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

"To every complex problem there is a solution which is
simple, neat and wrong" - HL Mencken

 

[David Martin]

James Annan wrote:
> B.G. Finlay wrote:
>
> > Simon Brooke ([email protected]) wrote:
> > : Yes, I /know/ a good argument is fun, particularly when you are
> > : frustrated or bored. But this group is /not/ an appropriate place. It's
> > : my opinion that this group is valuable, to me at least. If you agree
> > : with me, please help keep it lively, vibrant and useful.
> >
> > I've thought for a while that it should be renamed uk.rec.anti-car.
> > Positive posts about cycling are in the minority.
>
> Feel free to post something relevant yourself. Your only contributions
> since the end of September have apparently been one post about speed
> cameras and one other personal aside.

He posted a few ride reports, but possibly a bit earlier than that.

...d

 

[James Annan]

B.G. Finlay wrote:

> Simon Brooke ([email protected]) wrote:
> : Yes, I /know/ a good argument is fun, particularly when you are
> : frustrated or bored. But this group is /not/ an appropriate place. It's
> : my opinion that this group is valuable, to me at least. If you agree
> : with me, please help keep it lively, vibrant and useful.
>
> I've thought for a while that it should be renamed uk.rec.anti-car.
> Positive posts about cycling are in the minority.

Feel free to post something relevant yourself. Your only contributions
since the end of September have apparently been one post about speed
cameras and one other personal aside.

James
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[B.G. Finlay]

James Annan ([email protected]) wrote:
: B.G. Finlay wrote:
: > I've thought for a while that it should be renamed uk.rec.anti-car.
: > Positive posts about cycling are in the minority.

: Feel free to post something relevant yourself. Your only contributions
: since the end of September have apparently been one post about speed
: cameras and one other personal aside.

I've only been out once in the last 10 weeks due to a dodgy knee and
the 'highlight' of that ride was standing at the side of a track in the
middle of nowhere heaving my guts up. Not the sort of thing you rush and
tell a newsgroup about.

Blair

 

[Clive George]

"B.G. Finlay" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> I've only been out once in the last 10 weeks due to a dodgy knee and
> the 'highlight' of that ride was standing at the side of a track in the
> middle of nowhere heaving my guts up.

Riding too hard after a break? If so, the next ride will be better.

cheers,
clive

 

[davek]

B.G. Finlay wrote:
> Positive posts about cycling are in the minority.

I was feeling very miserable yesterday while out on Kensington High
Street in my lunch break, fighting my way through the hordes of
shoppers, when lo a heavenly visitation did descend from the firmament
- twas a Bike Friday triplet, ridden solo by mum. I presume she had
just dropped the kids off somewhere - either that or she had ridden
over a particularly nasty pothole...

Anyways, it fair gladdened my heart to behold such a sight, I can tell
you. I mean, it's not everyday you see a triplet out and about, let
alone a folding triplet (I'm assuming, based on appearances, that it
does actually "fold", or at least come to pieces - which also makes me
wonder: can it be converted to a tandem, or even a solo? Anyone know
any more about these fine machines?)

But! that's not the only heart-warming cycling-related missive I have
for you. No, indeed. For only last week I was watching Richard & Judy
and they had Woody Harrelson as a guest, and verily the actor spake
that while in London his preferred mode of transport is a Brompton.

Now, I think that is absolutely wonderful news and I hope it cheers you
up as much as it does me.

d.

 

[Dave Larrington]

In article <[email protected]>, davek
([email protected]) wrote:
> B.G. Finlay wrote:
> > Positive posts about cycling are in the minority.
>
> I was feeling very miserable yesterday while out on Kensington High
> Street in my lunch break, fighting my way through the hordes of
> shoppers, when lo a heavenly visitation did descend from the firmament
> - twas a Bike Friday triplet, ridden solo by mum. I presume she had
> just dropped the kids off somewhere - either that or she had ridden
> over a particularly nasty pothole...
>
> Anyways, it fair gladdened my heart to behold such a sight, I can tell
> you. I mean, it's not everyday you see a triplet out and about, let
> alone a folding triplet (I'm assuming, based on appearances, that it
> does actually "fold", or at least come to pieces - which also makes me
> wonder: can it be converted to a tandem, or even a solo? Anyone know
> any more about these fine machines?)

More than one could ever wish to know about 'em at:

<URL:http://www.bikefriday.com/bikecat99.cfm?cat=16>

And yes, the Family Triple Traveler can be turned into a twoser.

--
Dave Larrington - <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk/>
Never play leapfrog with a unicorn.

 

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Nigel Cliffe wrote:
> Simon Brooke wrote:
> > I've been using Usenet for more than twenty years. In that time, I've
> > had a number of 'home' groups, groups on which I've hung out and
> > spent a fair bit of time. All of them, except this one, have been
> > destroyed by trolls and are now moribund.
> >
> > Finally, there are a number of people whom we all know are here
> > fundamentally as trolls,.........
>
>
> I notice that some of those who seem to have all but destroyed a.r.b.r seems
> to have suddenly popped up here. So far no responses, so perhaps they will
> get bored.
>
do you mean all thouse high racer blog posts? I have noticed them on
rec.bike.* (earlier than URC) and uk.rec.driving more recently as well

best wishes
james

 

[davek]

Dave Larrington wrote:
> More than one could ever wish to know about 'em at:
> <URL:http://www.bikefriday.com/bikecat99.cfm?cat=16>

Cor! Wonder if I can persuade the missus that we really really /need/
one of these. (Might be easier if I don't show her the prices...)

> And yes, the Family Triple Traveler can be turned into a twoser.

Packs into a suitcase too - stick that in yer southern train and smoke
it!

d.

 

[MartinM]

davek wrote:
> Dave Larrington wrote:
> > More than one could ever wish to know about 'em at:
> > <URL:http://www.bikefriday.com/bikecat99.cfm?cat=16>
>
> Cor! Wonder if I can persuade the missus that we really really /need/
> one of these. (Might be easier if I don't show her the prices...)
>
> > And yes, the Family Triple Traveler can be turned into a twoser.
>
> Packs into a suitcase too - stick that in yer southern train and smoke

a lot of bikes pack into a suitcase, although this is not normally
conducive to a pleasant daily commute ;-)

They were handing out flyers last night, like the "do not disturb"
hotel signs with a hole to hang from the handlebars, explaining the new
policy. It seems that we will not even be allowed onto the platfrom
unless we have done the requisite origami first; Maybe they'll have one
of those guages like easyJet have to measure your hold baggage
(although easyJet seem more keen these days on taking everything as
hand baggage to avoid paying Samsonite case and bicycle destroyers
sorry baggage handling staff).

 

[Clive George]

"MartinM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...

> (although easyJet seem more keen these days on taking everything as
> hand baggage to avoid paying Samsonite case and bicycle destroyers
> sorry baggage handling staff).

Against that they do have a moderately sensible bike policy (well, for me
anyway). After paying my 15sq each way they had no issues with my 36kg 2m
long bike box - and it could have been larger than it was, which might have
meant a bit less dismantling.

Transporting it at the other end was potentially amusing - a micra with no
roofrack, but some pipe lagging and a very big strap seemed to work
sufficiently well, even if it wasn't as secure as normal.

cheers,
clive

 

[MartinM]

Clive George wrote:
> "MartinM" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
>
> > (although easyJet seem more keen these days on taking everything as
> > hand baggage to avoid paying Samsonite case and bicycle destroyers
> > sorry baggage handling staff).
>
> Against that they do have a moderately sensible bike policy (well, for me
> anyway). After paying my 15sq each way they had no issues with my 36kg 2m
> long bike box - and it could have been larger than it was, which might have
> meant a bit less dismantling.

I have no prob with EJ either re bikes, with their relaxed attitude and
low fares they have transformed continental bike travel, any damage
seems to arise from inadequate handling facilities at each end. I would
prefer to take the bike on/off the plane myself baby buggy stylee. I
certainly intend to take a very large box to France next year. Fares
between EJ and Ryanair seem to have aligned, previously it was a
moderate amount for the seat and nothing for the bike or vice versa