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"Kerry Nikolaisen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I think its going to take a grass-roots effort at the state level to come

up

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with legislation that holds drivers responsible for their actions. The

laws

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that are currently on the books obviously aren't doing a bit of good.

The problem is, all of the people writing, approving, voting on, enforcing, and obeying such
legislation are car drivers. Few of them have ridden a bike since childhood. Fewer still ride on the
roads regularly.

Pete

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The laws that are currently on the books obviously aren't doing a bit of good.

If they were removed there would be a certain period of readjustment.

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"Pete" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

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"Kerry Nikolaisen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I think its going to take a grass-roots effort at the state level to

come

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up

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with legislation that holds drivers responsible for their actions. The

laws

Quoted message said:

that are currently on the books obviously aren't doing a bit of good.

The problem is, all of the people writing, approving, voting on,

enforcing,

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and obeying such legislation are car drivers. Few of them have ridden a

bike

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since childhood. Fewer still ride on the roads regularly.

Pete

If you make this a "safety" issue instead of a "bike" issue, you may have better luck. After all,
what we are talking about is making drivers responsible for their actions, wherever they are,
whatever the conditions, and whoever/whatever the vehicle is they encounter. Hell, it shouldn't even
have to be a vehicle collision, it could involve pedestrians.

Kerry

"Kerry Nikolaisen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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I'm not sure why I continue to look for these through google.

There is a downside, of course. What are you doing to the image of cycling - both in the public's
mind, and in your own mind?

Do you suppose there are people in the motorcycling discussion groups who actively search out every
motorcycling fatality? How about on rec.cars.driving - do they get 40,000+ posts like this per year?
Is there a walking discussion group that mentions each of the 6000+ pedestrians killed each year?

Morbid indeed.

Making drivers responsible for their actions is good, but I don't think this is the way to do it.

- Frank Krygowski

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I'm not sure why I continue to look for these through google. I guess I won't be happy until
drivers of cars are held responsible for their actions.

The biggest mistake this driver did was leave the scene of the accident.

A couple of years ago a similar fatal accident occurred not too far away. The CHP investigated for
several months until they finally located the driver and made an arrest. I don't remember what the
ultimate penalties were but they were not a slap on the wrist.

Chris Neary [email hidden]

"Science, freedom, beauty, adventure: what more could you ask of life? Bicycling combined all the
elements I loved" - Adapted from a quotation by Charles Lindbergh

Chris Neary said:

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The biggest mistake this driver did was leave the scene of the accident.

Maybe not, if he happened to be drunk.

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(Frank Krygowski) said:

Making drivers responsible for their actions is good, but I don't think this is the way to do it.

I think irresponsible drivers should be compelled to -adopt- the cyclists they hit. At least, take
them home and support them for awhile.

You get beaned, you take your base.

The thought of having somebody like, say, Fabrizio rummaging through their medicine cabinets and
garages should scare drivers into being cautious.

cheers, Tom

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Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

(Frank Krygowski) said:

Making drivers responsible for their actions is good, but I don't think this is the way to do it.

I think irresponsible drivers should be compelled to -adopt- the cyclists they hit. At least, take
them home and support them for awhile.

You get beaned, you take your base.

The thought of having somebody like, say, Fabrizio rummaging through their medicine cabinets and
garages should scare drivers into being cautious.

cheers, Tom

Not to mention helping plan their wardrobe. :-)