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Note the clear view of left-turning traffic at the end
Happily cycling along the A41 with a nice tailwind.
Is that a cycle facility I see on the opposite side of
a dual carriageway?
I would really like to ask the designer exactly what
they expected cyclists to do when they got to the
end. The blue sigh says 'cycleway ends'.
Cross 5 lanes of traffic and go straight ahead from
a left-turn only lane perhaps?
And just round the corner to the right
and here is a cracker, Haldon forest near exeter.
I couldn't understand it at first , but apparently it's a real cycle
facility, which can make your journey safer along the A38.
When he discovered this state of the art cycle lane he had his 4year
old daughter on the back.I hope she was wearing a h...
TerryJ
TerryJ said:
=:-O
Holy [censored]. I'd rather take my race bike across ploughed fields...
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TerryJ said:and here is a cracker, Haldon forest near exeter.
I couldn't understand it at first , but apparently it's a real cycle
facility, which can make your journey safer along the A38.
When he discovered this state of the art cycle lane he had his 4year
old daughter on the back.I hope she was wearing a h...TerryJ
Any idea why he chose to ride the wrong way up the side of a dual
carriageway?
"Simon Proven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:TerryJ said:and here is a cracker, Haldon forest near exeter.
I couldn't understand it at first , but apparently it's a real cycle
facility, which can make your journey safer along the A38.
When he discovered this state of the art cycle lane he had his 4year
old daughter on the back.I hope she was wearing a h...TerryJ
Any idea why he chose to ride the wrong way up the side of a dual
carriageway?
We've got one of those, you got no option but to face the traffic. A cliff
on one side and fast traffic on the other. The route is between Conway and
Penmaenmawr - it is terrifying!
Even our Chief Constable (dare I mention his name? Clue: starts with a B.
and is listed on no.10 petitions! ) cycled it with his son once and promised
to get something done about it , according to his Blog site - but that was
some time ago - and nothing has happened.
Fred
Simon Proven said:
Any idea why he chose to ride the wrong way up the side of a dual
carriageway?
I got the impression that if you take the cycleway signs out of
Haldon forest literally you are instructed to do exactly that.
Having said that it is fairly obvious it was never intended
to be a contra-flow lane.
Anyone know if there is a parallel path on the opposite
carriageway?
in message <[email hidden]>, TerryJ
(') said:and here is a cracker, Haldon forest near exeter.
I couldn't understand it at first , but apparently it's a real cycle
facility, which can make your journey safer along the A38.
When he discovered this state of the art cycle lane he had his 4year
old daughter on the back.I hope she was wearing a h...
That is /terrifying/!
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Quoted message said:We've got one of those, you got no option but to face the traffic. A cliff
on one side and fast traffic on the other. The route is between Conway and
Penmaenmawr - it is terrifying!
Even our Chief Constable (dare I mention his name? Clue: starts with a B.
and is listed on no.10 petitions! ) cycled it with his son once and
promised to get something done about it , according to his Blog site - but
that was some time ago - and nothing has happened.
Do you mean the bit between Conwy and the tunnels where there's no crash
barrier between you and the road? I've never had a problem with that bit
and there is a wide shoulder between the cycle path and the inside lane.
Due to the narrowness, the problem comes when you meet a cyclist coming the
other way or worse, a couple of pedestrians.
I find the bits with the barrier much better and reassuring but you have to
get out of your mind how much those things are designed to deflect when a
car hits them. Interestingly, this part always used to have signs saying
"Pedestrians and dismounted cyclists" which implied you were supposed to
walk your bike for half a mile along a national cycle route!
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I found a good one today:
There was a signed cycle route which avoided a semi busy expressway junction
by going under the dual carriageway a bit further up. The underpass is
actually several box culverts bridging old, water filled gravel pits and the
one that the cycle lane goes through seems to be the emergency overflow as
it was under water and the pedestrian side was covered in a layer of silt
from the water.
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Quoted message said:it was under water and the pedestrian side was covered in a layer of silt
from the water.
Can you say where so we can lok at a map?
Terry
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Quoted message said:it was under water and the pedestrian side was covered in a layer of silt
from the water.Can you say where so we can lok at a map?
SK450294 ish. I don't know of any mapping sites using OS maps that let you
direct link to that grid reference but www.getamap.co.uk will let you type
it in.
The OS Explorer maps show it as cycle route 15 although it didn't say this
on the signs. It's a bit of a cut through from Shardlow to Castle
Donnington - not much shorter but cuts out a bit of an uphill!
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(') said:SK450294 ish. Â I don't know of any mapping sites using OS maps that let
you direct link to that grid reference but www.getamap.co.uk will let you
type it in.
http://www.streetmap.co.uk/newsearch.srf?type=OSGrid&name=SK450294
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Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:Quoted message said:it was under water and the pedestrian side was covered in a layer of silt
from the water.
on the signs. It's a bit of a cut through from Shardlow to Castle
Donnington - not much shorter but cuts out a bit of an uphill!
I usually take the first right after the river, but this sounds like a
bit of fun for next time.
TerryJ
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Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:
Quoted message said:> it was under water and the pedestrian side was covered in a layer of
> silt
> from the water.
on the signs. It's a bit of a cut through from Shardlow to Castle
Donnington - not much shorter but cuts out a bit of an uphill!I usually take the first right after the river, but this sounds like a
bit of fun for next time.
I was going to go that way but thought the cycle route might be a bit more
interesting. I wasn't disappointed!
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"Simon Proven" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Quoted message said:
Any idea why he chose to ride the wrong way up the side of a dual
carriageway?
Exactly my thoughts. At time interval 1:06 you can see he is going onto a
path against the giveway sign. Also the path is not wide enough to be a two
way cycle lane. Maybe the issue here is the signs were wrong, but no council
could have possibly intended a cyclist to take that route, could they?
Jc.
Quoted message said:way cycle lane. Maybe the issue here is the signs were wrong, but no council
could have possibly intended a cyclist to take that route, could they?Jc.
But cycling with the traffic flow would be more dangerous, not less,
since against the flow you at least have some warning of what's coming
at you.
TJ
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Quoted message said:way cycle lane. Maybe the issue here is the signs were wrong, but no
council could have possibly intended a cyclist to take that route, could
they?But cycling with the traffic flow would be more dangerous, not less,
since against the flow you at least have some warning of what's coming
at you.
No, that's a fallacy. Cycling on a cycle lane in the direction contrary to
motorised traffic in an adjacent lane is about 300% more dangerous than
cycling in same direction. Rear-ending or a bike by a motor vehicle is,
despite Brendan's horrible experience early this week, thankfully rare.
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Quoted message said:Quoted message said:But cycling with the traffic flow would be more dangerous, not less,
Quoted message said:
No, that's a fallacy. Cycling on a cycle lane in the direction contrary to
motorised traffic in an adjacent lane is about 300% more dangerous than
cycling in same direction. Rear-ending or a bike by a motor vehicle is,
despite Brendan's horrible experience early this week, thankfully rare.
I do not know what is being compared there, but in this case the rider
has to dodge out into the road on a few occasions, and much of the
time the path is far too narrow.
I would not fancy going either way, but any statistics there might be
are probably affected by the question of who , in what mental
condition, would cycle along that road as it is at all .
I am not so sure that getting rear ended on that sort of dual
carriageway is actually rare among the few cyclists who might use it.I
remember one good cyclist Needham got it on the A50 in recent years
then there was the racer in Yorkshire who the magistrate said was 'not
there to be seen'( well, they didn't see him) and Zak Carr.
Anyway, I have seen enough of that cyclepath whichever direction.
TerryJ
TerryJ
I saw this wonderful creation this morning and just had to take a photo
of it. http://www.spod.org/~allyg/farcility-0001.jpg They've just spent
quite a bit of time (and presumably therefore, money) remodelling that
junction and I'm at a loss to explain quite what they where trying to
achieve?
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"Alistair Gunn" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:I saw this wonderful creation this morning and just had to take a photo
of it. http://www.spod.org/~allyg/farcility-0001.jpg They've just spent
quite a bit of time (and presumably therefore, money) remodelling that
junction and I'm at a loss to explain quite what they where trying to
achieve?
They were trying to spend some money, and succeeded. Presumably they need to
spend their budget to justify it etc.
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