More carnage.

[PoB]

"JNugent" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:ON-| > " He was turning left
into Nicolson Street from West Richmond Street when he
| > collided with the truck."
|
| That doesn't sound like the classic lorry/bike collision where the lorry
| is turning left and the bike (on the left) is going straight across.

The police are still investigating, hence (partly) my concern about the
phrasing.

My friend only saw it when the bike was under the lorry and being scraped
along the ground - and has volunteered as a witness, in reply to a post
yesterday

The Scotsman/Evening News has a more neutral take:-

"The collision happened as the cyclist was turning left into Nicolson Street
from West Richmond Street."

which is as it should be.

pOB

 

[[email protected]]

On 1 May, 09:15, JNugent <[email protected]> wrote:
> Yesterday, I saw a rigid lorry (a brand new cement-mixer, as it happens)
> with a prominent warning to undertaking cyclists on the rear nearside
> mudflap, presumably right where a cyclist would see it. The first I've
> seen (or noticed) Good idea, I thought.

I've seen one of those. I had to get right up close to read it, mind.

Robin Johnson

 

[David Hansen]

On Thu, 1 May 2008 09:55:23 +0100 someone who may be "PoB"
<[email protected]> wrote this:-

>The police are still investigating, hence (partly) my concern about the
>phrasing.

The phrasing is important. By the time any report is completed the
mass media will have moved on to produce many more chip wrappings,
but the impression they gave that the cyclist was at fault will
remain. At the moment we don't know whether one, both or none of
those directly involved was at fault and the mass media should
reflect that in their choice of words.

>My friend only saw it when the bike was under the lorry and being scraped
>along the ground - and has volunteered as a witness, in reply to a post
>yesterday

Witnesses will need support too I imagine. Roadpeace do their best,
but the work should really be done by others who have the time and
are paid to do it. <http://www.roadpeace.org>



--
David Hansen, Edinburgh
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[Martin Dann]

JNugent wrote:

> Yesterday, I saw a rigid lorry (a brand new cement-mixer, as it happens)
> with a prominent warning to undertaking cyclists on the rear nearside
> mudflap, presumably right where a cyclist would see it. The first I've
> seen (or noticed) Good idea, I thought.

I often see them on HGVs round here, but on the door at the back, not
the mudflap. I think they are an excellent idea.

 

[Dave Larrington]

In news:[email protected],
Martin Dann <[email protected]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:
> JNugent wrote:
>
>> Yesterday, I saw a rigid lorry (a brand new cement-mixer, as it
>> happens) with a prominent warning to undertaking cyclists on the
>> rear nearside mudflap, presumably right where a cyclist would see
>> it. The first I've seen (or noticed) Good idea, I thought.
>
> I often see them on HGVs round here, but on the door at the back, not
> the mudflap. I think they are an excellent idea.

They've been pretty common on cement mixers for a good few years now.

--
Dave Larrington
<http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk>
Apparently Guy has now got a Brompton. I'd never have guessed.

 

[Marc]

Dave Larrington wrote:
> In news:[email protected],
> Martin Dann <[email protected]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:
>> JNugent wrote:
>>
>>> Yesterday, I saw a rigid lorry (a brand new cement-mixer, as it
>>> happens) with a prominent warning to undertaking cyclists on the
>>> rear nearside mudflap, presumably right where a cyclist would see
>>> it. The first I've seen (or noticed) Good idea, I thought.
>> I often see them on HGVs round here, but on the door at the back, not
>> the mudflap. I think they are an excellent idea.
>
> They've been pretty common on cement mixers for a good few years now.
>
I wonder if there is a matching sign on the dashboard telling the driver
to look out for cyclists, or is only the victim that needs to be warned?

 

[Just zis Guy, you know?]

On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:47:52 +0100, "Dave Larrington"
<[email protected]> said in
<[email protected]>:

>They've been pretty common on cement mixers for a good few years now.

Whereas bendy buses have "this vehicle is 18 metres long" but
inexplicably miss off the important bit: "and it will start, stop
and turn without warning, regardless of whether you're halfway past
it or it's halfway past you, because it OWNS the road, so flee in
terror puny cyclist".

Guy
--
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[Daniel Barlow]

"Just zis Guy, you know?" <[email protected]> writes:

> Whereas bendy buses have "this vehicle is 18 metres long"

This is great advice, but would be more usefully displayed on the
dashboard than the rear bumper.


-dan