"JNugent" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ON-| > " He was turning left into Nicolson Street from West Richmond Street when he | > collided with the truck." | | That doesn't sound like the classic lorry/bike collision where the lorry | is turning left and the bike (on the left) is going straight across.
The police are still investigating, hence (partly) my concern about the phrasing.
My friend only saw it when the bike was under the lorry and being scraped along the ground - and has volunteered as a witness, in reply to a post yesterday
The Scotsman/Evening News has a more neutral take:-
"The collision happened as the cyclist was turning left into Nicolson Street from West Richmond Street."
Yesterday, I saw a rigid lorry (a brand new cement-mixer, as it happens) with a prominent warning to undertaking cyclists on the rear nearside mudflap, presumably right where a cyclist would see it. The first I've seen (or noticed) Good idea, I thought.
I've seen one of those. I had to get right up close to read it, mind.
On Thu, 1 May 2008 09:55:23 +0100 someone who may be "PoB" <[email hidden]> wrote this:-
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The police are still investigating, hence (partly) my concern about the phrasing.
The phrasing is important. By the time any report is completed the mass media will have moved on to produce many more chip wrappings, but the impression they gave that the cyclist was at fault will remain. At the moment we don't know whether one, both or none of those directly involved was at fault and the mass media should reflect that in their choice of words.
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My friend only saw it when the bike was under the lorry and being scraped along the ground - and has volunteered as a witness, in reply to a post yesterday
Witnesses will need support too I imagine. Roadpeace do their best, but the work should really be done by others who have the time and are paid to do it. <http://www.roadpeace.org>
Yesterday, I saw a rigid lorry (a brand new cement-mixer, as it happens) with a prominent warning to undertaking cyclists on the rear nearside mudflap, presumably right where a cyclist would see it. The first I've seen (or noticed) Good idea, I thought.
I often see them on HGVs round here, but on the door at the back, not the mudflap. I think they are an excellent idea.
In news:[email hidden], Martin Dann <[email hidden]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:
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JNugent said:
Yesterday, I saw a rigid lorry (a brand new cement-mixer, as it happens) with a prominent warning to undertaking cyclists on the rear nearside mudflap, presumably right where a cyclist would see it. The first I've seen (or noticed) Good idea, I thought.
I often see them on HGVs round here, but on the door at the back, not the mudflap. I think they are an excellent idea.
They've been pretty common on cement mixers for a good few years now.
In news:[email hidden], Martin Dann <[email hidden]> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us:
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JNugent said:
Yesterday, I saw a rigid lorry (a brand new cement-mixer, as it happens) with a prominent warning to undertaking cyclists on the rear nearside mudflap, presumably right where a cyclist would see it. The first I've seen (or noticed) Good idea, I thought.
I often see them on HGVs round here, but on the door at the back, not the mudflap. I think they are an excellent idea.
They've been pretty common on cement mixers for a good few years now.
I wonder if there is a matching sign on the dashboard telling the driver to look out for cyclists, or is only the victim that needs to be warned?
On Fri, 2 May 2008 09:47:52 +0100, "Dave Larrington" <[email hidden]> said in <[email hidden]>:
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They've been pretty common on cement mixers for a good few years now.
Whereas bendy buses have "this vehicle is 18 metres long" but inexplicably miss off the important bit: "and it will start, stop and turn without warning, regardless of whether you're halfway past it or it's halfway past you, because it OWNS the road, so flee in terror puny cyclist".
