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  1. I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
    ftp pretty soon

    I'll give the locations as soon as I can test them out

    BUT they will be very large downloads...............

    And the commentary is in Italian - but not really needed if you also
    get a text commentary to go with it

    Hopefully it will work but it's more of an experiment really as I'm
    actually sitting in Spain running my TV and Box by remote control and
    may not be able to fix any Borks

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
    -
    Avoid the Gates of Hell. Use Linux

  2. Davey Crockett schreef:

    Quoted message said:

    I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
    ftp pretty soon

    There will be a post of the last 4 laps in
    alt.binaries.multimedia.sports this afternoon, I feel it! Probably with
    Dutch commentary, though, and only 352x216 size (PAL, cropped).

    Great race by the Italians.

    --
    E. Dronkert

  3. Davey Crockett said:

    I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
    ftp pretty soon

    I'll give the locations as soon as I can test them out

    BUT they will be very large downloads...............

    And the commentary is in Italian - but not really needed if you also
    get a text commentary to go with it

    Hopefully it will work but it's more of an experiment really as I'm
    actually sitting in Spain running my TV and Box by remote control and
    may not be able to fix any Borks

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply
    -
    Avoid the Gates of Hell. Use Linux

    I just watched it live in France using Cycling.TV. It worked well, I
    have the UCI Live subscription, which worked well for once. I think
    Bronzini would rather have been called Goldini.

    -ilan

  4. * Davey Crockett <[email hidden]> a écrit profondement:
    |
    | I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
    | ftp pretty soon
    |
    | I'll give the locations as soon as I can test them out
    |
    | BUT they will be very large downloads...............
    |
    | And the commentary is in Italian - but not really needed if you also
    | get a text commentary to go with it
    |
    | Hopefully it will work but it's more of an experiment really as I'm
    | actually sitting in Spain running my TV and Box by remote control and
    | may not be able to fix any Borks

    PLEASE READ FULLY BEFORE LOGGIN ONTO MY BOX
    ===========================================

    OK, following up

    Perhaps your best bet would be to follow Ewoud's link this pm - like
    it's 1400 hrs. here now

    But for the bold, you can get it in TS format from my computer at

    http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts

    The full file is there and it is also split into 18 smaller files

    http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.001 thru
    http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.018

    And you will have to join the files. "cat" works fine Unix/Linux but I
    don't know about Windows or Mac

    The Unix/Linux crowd will know what to use to play it, but I don't have
    any idea what is needed on Windows or Mac - VLC I believe has versions
    tha work on DOS and OS/X

    Just make sure you can play it before wasting time downloading it

    I left the directory "open" so you can see all the files

    On ftp it's
    Host: azurservers.com
    Port: 6021
    for anonymous access (User: anonymous ;; Password: [email hidden] or similar
    [censored])

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

  5. Davey Crockett schreef:

    Quoted message said:

    And you will have to join the files. "cat" works fine Unix/Linux but I
    don't know about Windows or Mac

    http://www.freebyte.com/hjsplit/ is an option.

    Quoted message said:

    The Unix/Linux crowd will know what to use to play it, but I don't have
    any idea what is needed on Windows or Mac - VLC I believe has versions
    tha work on DOS and OS/X

    Yep, http://www.videolan.org/vlc/

    --
    E. Dronkert

  6. * [email hidden] a écrit profondement:
    |
    |
    | I just watched it live in France using Cycling.TV. It worked well, I
    | have the UCI Live subscription, which worked well for once. I think
    | Bronzini would rather have been called Goldini.
    |

    RAI3 is what I used; it didn't seem to be available on the FR/2/3
    channels and I only have the basic channels that come with my net
    connection - no Eurosport etc as they are pretty expensive given that
    I only turn the TV on when there's bike racing being broadcast

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

  7. "Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    * Davey Crockett <[email hidden]> a écrit profondement:
    |
    | I'm hopefully going to have the last lap available for both http and
    | ftp pretty soon
    |
    | I'll give the locations as soon as I can test them out
    |
    | BUT they will be very large downloads...............
    |
    | And the commentary is in Italian - but not really needed if you also
    | get a text commentary to go with it
    |
    | Hopefully it will work but it's more of an experiment really as I'm
    | actually sitting in Spain running my TV and Box by remote control and
    | may not be able to fix any Borks

    PLEASE READ FULLY BEFORE LOGGIN ONTO MY BOX
    ===========================================

    OK, following up

    Perhaps your best bet would be to follow Ewoud's link this pm - like
    it's 1400 hrs. here now

    But for the bold, you can get it in TS format from my computer at

    http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts

    Thanks Davey, I am running a Linux box next to my Windows box, and if it's
    still available later tonight, I'll give it a try. Also the race is streamed
    in English today on WCSN, and the streaming window can be zoomed to a full
    scream, but I would like to see what you got.

    thanks,
    GBMT

  8. * "GoneBeforeMyTime" <[email hidden]> a écrit profondement:
    |
    |
    | Thanks Davey, I am running a Linux box next to my Windows box, and if it's
    | still available later tonight, I'll give it a try. Also the race is streamed
    | in English today on WCSN, and the streaming window can be zoomed to a full
    | scream, but I would like to see what you got.
    |

    Well talking about streaming, I noticed something very strange

    If you go http://azurservers.com/ciclismo and take a look at the
    directory, you will see that after splitting the original file into
    parts, http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.008 and
    http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.012 will stream and are
    marked as such in the directory listing.

    In other words they will play directly. At least with my portable
    running Opera browser with Xine for a helper app they do

    It thrashes around for a while digesting to 50 megs and then plays,
    not half as well as downloading and launching it with VLC though

    This is very strange behaviour for a chunk of a split master file and
    I don't know the reason for it since I split the big file with just a
    standard *nix "split -b 50000000" and used "mvb" to rename the bits

    So there's no chance that I handled those two chunks differently and
    in any instance they are just split at an arbitrary point in the file
    ( 7 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes and 11 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes as start points
    for the two chunks respectively )

    Notably the original file does not stream but must be downloaded and
    launched manually

    Do you have any thoughts on this?.

    --
    Davey Crockett - No 4Q to Reply

  9. "Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    * "GoneBeforeMyTime" <[email hidden]> a écrit profondement:
    |
    |
    | Thanks Davey, I am running a Linux box next to my Windows box, and if


    it's

    Quoted message said:

    | still available later tonight, I'll give it a try. Also the race is


    streamed

    Quoted message said:

    | in English today on WCSN, and the streaming window can be zoomed to a


    full

    Quoted message said:

    | scream, but I would like to see what you got.
    |

    Well talking about streaming, I noticed something very strange

    If you go http://azurservers.com/ciclismo and take a look at the
    directory, you will see that after splitting the original file into
    parts, http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.008 and
    http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.012 will stream and are
    marked as such in the directory listing.

    In other words they will play directly. At least with my portable
    running Opera browser with Xine for a helper app they do

    It thrashes around for a while digesting to 50 megs and then plays,
    not half as well as downloading and launching it with VLC though

    This is very strange behaviour for a chunk of a split master file and
    I don't know the reason for it since I split the big file with just a
    standard *nix "split -b 50000000" and used "mvb" to rename the bits

    So there's no chance that I handled those two chunks differently and
    in any instance they are just split at an arbitrary point in the file
    ( 7 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes and 11 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes as start points
    for the two chunks respectively )

    Notably the original file does not stream but must be downloaded and
    launched manually

    Do you have any thoughts on this?.

    No I wouldn't. Mpeg files still play if split, they usually don't corrupt by
    splitting like some files do, haven't tried any streaming tests from a Linux
    box. For ascii, txt or binary images, I just use file splitting software to
    split and resemble. Images often will show part of an image sometimes when
    its not asslembled correctly, but I haven't tested a huge variety of
    behaviors of various extensions.

    Xine made me flash on Wine! It's been a very long time before I looked into
    Wine. I wonder if it's gotten much better! I think progress was slower then
    molasses! I don't have much time today to fool around, but I will try to
    snag that huge ts file tonight and give it a go.

    GBMT

  10. "Davey Crockett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    * "GoneBeforeMyTime" <[email hidden]> a écrit profondement:
    |
    |
    | Thanks Davey, I am running a Linux box next to my Windows box, and if


    it's

    Quoted message said:

    | still available later tonight, I'll give it a try. Also the race is


    streamed

    Quoted message said:

    | in English today on WCSN, and the streaming window can be zoomed to a


    full

    Quoted message said:

    | scream, but I would like to see what you got.
    |

    Well talking about streaming, I noticed something very strange

    If you go http://azurservers.com/ciclismo and take a look at the
    directory, you will see that after splitting the original file into
    parts, http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.008 and
    http://azurservers.com/ciclismo/dames.ts.012 will stream and are
    marked as such in the directory listing.

    In other words they will play directly. At least with my portable
    running Opera browser with Xine for a helper app they do

    It thrashes around for a while digesting to 50 megs and then plays,
    not half as well as downloading and launching it with VLC though

    This is very strange behaviour for a chunk of a split master file and
    I don't know the reason for it since I split the big file with just a
    standard *nix "split -b 50000000" and used "mvb" to rename the bits

    So there's no chance that I handled those two chunks differently and
    in any instance they are just split at an arbitrary point in the file
    ( 7 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes and 11 * 50000000 + 1 Bytes as start points
    for the two chunks respectively )

    Notably the original file does not stream but must be downloaded and
    launched manually

    Do you have any thoughts on this?.

    That clip was better then the last hour I saw on WCSN. Good coverage by
    RAI-3, but they always do a good job. I have a lot of tapes of the classics
    and tours from the mid 90's. They are always more animated, and i like the
    way they call off the riders at the front, and update the breaks. They have
    always been good at that, but Italian cameramen are really good in the field
    as well, it's an art with them.

    GBMT

  11. GoneBeforeMyTime said:

    That clip was better then the last hour I saw on WCSN. Good coverage by
    RAI-3, but they always do a good job. [...]

    RAI-3 seemed to cut away before the end of the Men's ITT - actually not
    sure whether they broadcast any of it.

    BBCi is doing well, covering the entire race with original
    audio channel available on satellite. The two ex-pro
    commentators (Porter and Yates) are OK, but not quite up to the
    Liggett/Sherwen/Imlach/Boardman/Rendell/Boulting itv TdF team.

    Regards,
    --
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    Free Sat FAQ: http://mjr.towers.org.uk/blog/2006/astefaq
    Webmaster/web developer, statistician, sysadmin, online shop maker,
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  12. MJ Ray said:

    BBCi is doing well, covering the entire race with original
    audio channel available on satellite. The two ex-pro
    commentators (Porter and Yates) are OK, but not quite up to the
    Liggett/Sherwen/Imlach/Boardman/Rendell/Boulting itv TdF team.

    I thought the BBC coverage was good, but they didn't show the U23s which
    I watched on cycling.tv.
    I was rather surprised that Sean recognised so few of the faces in the
    Elite race though, I thought he would have known them all from his time
    in the team car.

  13. "Dan Gregory" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I was rather surprised that Sean recognised so few of the faces in the
    Elite race though,

    That's the problem I have with WCSN commentators in the women's race. Unlike
    RAI-3 which I have a lot of races in the past, WCSN can't seem to recognize
    the faces. Duffy at UK Eurosports had the same problem, having to look up
    numbers after a long pause to get the names right. However Russell Williams
    was excellent, he knew the riders. In the women's race, Worrack, Cantele,
    Pooley were always pulling at the front, but you never heard a word about
    them, especially Pooley, a big puller in that race. They mentioned Cantele,
    but they missed the first two breaks, it seems like they went silent for two
    minutes, well they did. When Eneritz Iturriaga broke away, they ignored it
    for at least a minute. At the end when Willock broke away, finally they
    covered that as well as Marta, but the coverage was lackluster. They didn't
    seem to know the riders, and it seems all they did was rehash a story about
    Neben misfortune as a child, and some stuff about Armstrong. They didn't
    mention much about why Cooke was missing from the worlds, and often when I
    saw a number of riders at the front working the lead, they couldn't tell us
    who they were. There were a lot of good riders at the front at different
    times during the race, but it seems they ignored just about everyone up
    there, I think mostly because they just didn't know these girls by sight,
    and couldn't see the numbers in time, or didn't care enough to call the
    action at the front.

    That's the different between RAI-3, and Eurosports, WCSN. I didn't see
    Eurosports women's race this year, and I heard Duffy was canned, probably
    since he spent 30 minutes during the women's world road race one time
    talking about men's racing. That's enough to [censored] a preacher off, when there
    are breaks going on and the commentators are insulting enough to not cover
    the action and talk about things totally unrelated to the race. It's the
    friggin world championships for crying out loud, and they should be wearing
    the action on their sleeves. That's what RAI-3 have done in at least ten
    years of videos I have of women's racing. They always call the action at the
    front, they constantly update who the riders are at the front, and they
    really cover the breaks well. They seem to be fully focused on the race, and
    they get pretty loud and excited. And for good reason. Italian fans are
    rabid and need good commentators who know the riders well, and can call the
    action and cover the breaks. However the Italian cameramen are also artists
    when to comes to covering stage races too. They are excellent in the
    mountains. I understand enough of what is being said to figure things out
    for myself, so all I need is a good commentator who can call the racers by
    name, who's in front, and cover the breaks. I can't ever remember a women's
    race called in English which was superb. English speaking commentators never
    seem to know the Euro women that well, but Phil and Paul aren't bad at
    times, and Bobske really surprises me at times. He seems well informed, even
    on the women side. He did Nature Valley, and that was decent enough.

    GBMT

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