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Sheryl Rosen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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in article [email hidden], The Cook at [email hidden] wrote on
12/11/03 11:28 AM:

You want a moderator? You find a moderated group. There are plenty of them out there.

Like egullet. They sanitize posts, edit them at their own will, and delete anything they don't like
that you've said. If you're a newbie you'll get Private Messages (that you can't disable btw) from
strangers telling you how your posts don't fit in with the thread. Last I heard, this was a free
country. You'd never know it there! They're a bunch of food snots, but if that's your bag and you're
looking for heavy handed moderation, that board is for you (the OP).

"Margaret Suran" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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When Barbara was here, we went to a nice restaurant, Ouest, whose owner, Tom Vaalenti, happened to
be written up in this week's N.Y. Times Food Section. The soup on the three course prix fixe
dinner was duck soup and both of us ordered it. Marcel had Belgian Endive salad. The soup was
wonderful, but it was not anything like the one of your recipe. No sour cream, no beetroot and no
caraway seeds. Next time I go there, I will see whether I can get the recipe. I never had any kind
of duck soup before. I thought the very name and the Marx Brothers film meant that Duck Soup is
some kind of joke. MS

I'm kinda shocked that any 'east of the elbe' recipe would not contain at least caraway. But what do
I know, other than 'Duck Soup' is the best Marx Brothers film IMO. Huh? Oh, ok, 'Horsefeathers' and
' Monkey Business' were colossal also.

Jack T Firefly

Melba's Jammin said:

You're using Outlook Express to read news. There exists software specifically reading news --
Agent, Free Agent, others for Windows; NewsWatcher, MacSoup, others for Macintosh. The good ones
allow you to create filters on posts -- by author, by subject, perhaps by length of post. For
example, I can choose to highlight the names of certain posters so their posts are readily visible
when my group's list of posts appears. I can choose to'kill' or "kill file" certain subjects or
posters if I don't even want them to show up on my screen. The filters may have time limits (you
choose) on them. HTH.

It should be noted that the newsreader that is part of OE is able to do that as well. It's a matter
of learning how to use the tools.

There are good reasons not to use OE as a newsreader, but filtering isn't really one of them, at
least at the level we're discussing. I haven't used it for a while so I can't give explicit
instructions to the OP as to how to use the kill features.

Brian Rodenborn

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

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In article said:

Get a newsreader and put that person in your kill file.

I'm not sure what this means. Can you explain. Thanks. dee

You're using Outlook Express to read news. There exists software specifically reading news --
Agent, Free Agent, others for Windows; NewsWatcher, MacSoup, others for Macintosh. The good ones
allow you to create filters on posts -- by author, by subject, perhaps by length of post. For
example, I can choose to highlight the names of certain posters so their posts are readily visible
when my group's list of posts appears. I can choose to'kill' or "kill file" certain subjects or
posters if I don't even want them to show up on my screen. The filters may have time limits (you
choose) on them. HTH.

Ah - good old NewsWatcher. I remember that from about ten years ago and it was excellent.

I don't know if Gravity is available for the Mac but it is excellent on the PC platform. I know
MicroPlanet officially discontinued Gravity but it took on a life of it's own and now goes by
SuperGravity. Do a web search.

"Melba's Jammin'" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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In article said:

Get a newsreader and put that person in your kill file.

I'm not sure what this means. Can you explain. Thanks. dee

You're using Outlook Express to read news.

For dee:

To killfile someone in Outlook Express, make sure the person's message is highlighted by clicking it
once. Go to the Message menu. Select Block Sender. You'll be asked if you want all messages from
that person removed. Click Yes if you want to killfile the person, or No to cancel.

To create filters (e.g., to filter out every message with the word 'sausage'😉, go to the Message
menu. Select Create Rule from Message. Follow the instructions.

Cate

[email hidden] (Carmen Dioxide) wrote in
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Last I heard, this was a free country.

But the administrators may be in one of those US-financed tin-pot dictatorships like...um...Iraq :-)

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"The problem with the French is they have no word for entrepreneur."

attributed to George W. Bush by Tony Blair via Baroness Williams

"Carmen Dioxide" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Like egullet. They sanitize posts, edit them at their own will, and delete anything they don't
like that you've said.

I've heard about the random editing, but have never experienced it, myself. I've seen references
to posts being deleted, though. And if they sanitize posts, it sure isn't evident from Tony
Bourdain's posts!

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If you're a newbie you'll get Private Messages (that you can't disable btw) from strangers telling
you how your posts don't fit in with the thread.

Never had that happen. The only PM I've ever gotten was a very friendly one, much like private e-
mails I've gotten here. You don't have to read PMs, though, or respond to them. I didn't realize I
had one until two days after it had arrived.

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Last I heard, this was a free country. You'd never know it there!

They have their rules, just like other groups do.

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They're a bunch of food snots, but if that's your bag and you're looking for heavy handed
moderation, that board is for you (the OP).

I don't find them to be snotty at all. I've had some very good discussions there which have always
remained civil and on-topic.

You're right, though. For people who want heavy-handed moderation, e-Gullet would be better place.
Usenet is not for someone who has a low tolerance for ambiguity or who is hyper-sensitive.

I think there's a place for both :-).

rona
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In article <[email hidden]>, Default User

Quoted message said:

Melba's Jammin said:

You're using Outlook Express to read news. There exists software specifically reading news --
Agent, Free Agent, others for Windows; NewsWatcher, MacSoup, others for Macintosh. The good ones
allow you to create filters on posts -- by author, by subject, perhaps by length of post. For
example, I can choose to highlight the names of certain posters so their posts are readily
visible when my group's list of posts appears. I can choose to'kill' or "kill file" certain
subjects or posters if I don't even want them to show up on my screen. The filters may have time
limits (you choose) on them. HTH.

It should be noted that the newsreader that is part of OE is able to do that as well. It's a
matter of learning how to use the tools.

There are good reasons not to use OE as a newsreader, but filtering isn't really one of them, at
least at the level we're discussing. I haven't used it for a while so I can't give explicit
instructions to the OP as to how to use the kill features.

Quoted message said:

Brian Rodenborn

Thanks for the info about that, Brian. Sounded like Dee didn't know what a killfile is.
--
-Barb <www.jamlady.eboard.com> "If you're ever in a jam, here I am."

Melba's Jammin said:

Thanks for the info about that, Brian. Sounded like Dee didn't know what a killfile is.

I would say Dee doesn't know a whole hell of allot.

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Mark

N.E. Ohio

Never argue with a fool, a bystander can't tell you apart. (S. Clemens,
A.K.A. Mark Twain)

When in doubt hit the throttle. It may not help but it sure ends the
suspense. (Gaz, r.moto)

Interious said:

On moderation: <S>G</S>generally speaking, it is a good thing.

<scum sucking claptrap snipped>

Not for Newbies who can't cook a lick... you need all the unsolicited help you can muster. Even your
sentence structuring sucks big time; commas ain't decorations and colons are not periods. You're an
offensive little [censored]; moderate that.

---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon
```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

PENMART01 said:

Nancy Young said:

I just had a good laugh at the thought of what kind of masochist would take on the 24 hour a day
job of sifting through posts to rfc for content.

Most generally folks who subscribe to moderated newsgroups know that they are moderated, whereas
they know in advance the parameters of what content is permitted, therefore since they hope to see
their contributions posted, and that they don't receive an unvoluntary unsubscribing, they tend to
stick to the rulz... in summary the vast majority of moderated Newsgroups require very little
moderating.

That's obvious, of course traffic would diminish. I knew that, I was laughing at someone having to
do that as it is today. Just a little laugh, that's all.

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Also, moderated Newsgroups do not as a rule receive nearly the traffic of of say an <r.f.c>. And
moderated Newsgroup servers post in batches, perhaps a few times each day, so moderators really
don't slave away night and day as you imply.

Wow, I didn't know that! I thought it was 24/7.

(laughing)

QED

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Interious said:

On moderation: <S>G</S>generally speaking, it is a good thing.

<scum sucking claptrap snipped>

Not for Newbies who can't cook a lick... you need all the unsolicited help you can muster. Even
your sentence structuring sucks big time; commas ain't decorations and colons are not periods.
You're an offensive little [censored]; moderate that.

---= BOYCOTT FRENCH--GERMAN (belgium) =--- ---= Move UNITED NATIONS To Paris =--- Sheldon
```````````` "Life would be devoid of all meaning were it without tribulation."

Blair P. Houghton said:

Victor Sack said:

Peter Aitken said:

This group has no moderator. When a newsgroup is first formed it has a charter that specifies,
among other things, whether it is moderated or not.

This is only true for new newsgroups. Most newsgroups formed before 1989, rfc being one of them,
have no charters. In those balmy days people still knew what, where and how to post, and charters
were deemed unnecessary.

Actually, charters were the result of overweaning give-some-people- a-badge-ism in the news.groups
discussions. They're as useless as [censored] on a Republican Presidential Candidate.

--Blair "Give some people a profit motive."

not ready for liddy dole?

your pal, blake

blake murphy said:

Blair P. Houghton said:

Actually, charters were the result of overweaning give-some-people- a-badge-ism in the news.groups
discussions. They're as useless as [censored] on a Republican Presidential Candidate.

not ready for liddy dole?

Nor is the Party, obviously.

--Blair "They're still running their pet chimp."