Aha! And here I thought I knew all there was to know about pigs. :P (Being that I live in North Carolina and all ....)
What is the taste like, if you can describe it? In the pork loin, I much prefer the stronger, dark meat to the drier, denser white meat. (No doubt because it has more fat ...)
Hummm...I haven't had pork roast in so long (10 years, maybe more) I'm not sure how it compares. It doesn't have the "gaminess" that darker pork meat tends to have. Ham is fairly lean because the but and leg are constantly exercised. It's a pinker meat - not white or dark, really. IIRC it tastes saltier than pork loin.
Have you ever had a fresh ham (not smoked?) They are the best! I do like a smoked ham as well, but fresh is so much better, IMO. I don't eat ham anymore unless we can get a fresh one from the farm.
I've cooked and loved fresh ham, although it came from a supermarket - your fave - Fred M's. Seriously though, do you know of a farmer in Northwest Oregon who sells fresh pork to the general public, or is it your secret? I can't think of a regular pork vendor at the Park Blocks or Hillsdale farmers markets. Then I thought of Sauvie Island, but I can't recall a pig farm there either. ..
Hummm...I haven't had pork roast in so long (10 years, maybe more) I'm not sure how it compares. It doesn't have the "gaminess" that darker pork meat tends to have. Ham is fairly lean because the but and leg are constantly exercised. It's a pinker meat - not white or dark, really. IIRC it tastes saltier than pork loin.
Hmm, I will have to try to find that. Surely the Pig Capital of the nation will have some somewhere. Maybe the farmer's market. It's strawberry season, too!
Have you ever had a fresh ham (not smoked?) They are the best! I do like a smoked ham as well, but fresh is so much better, IMO. I don't eat ham anymore unless we can get a fresh one from the farm.
No, I never heard of such a thing. Wouldn't that just be a pork roast?
No, different cut, different taste (unless it is specifically a ham roast which is a boneless ham). Ham is the actual pork butt or leg portion. Most roasts are from loin. This sort of explains it:
In St. Louis, the call pork shoulder "pork butt." It's true.
I've cooked and loved fresh ham, although it came from a supermarket - your fave - Fred M's. Seriously though, do you know of a farmer in Northwest Oregon who sells fresh pork to the general public, or is it your secret? I can't think of a regular pork vendor at the Park Blocks or Hillsdale farmers markets. Then I thought of Sauvie Island, but I can't recall a pig farm there either. .
It's a small organic farm and a friend of a friend. You just gotta know the right people, Kevin! 😉 He doesn't always have pigs but when he does we try to get in on the slaughter, and buy a half-pig.
> Have you ever had a fresh ham (not smoked?) They are the best! I do > like a smoked ham as well, but fresh is so much better, IMO. I don't > eat ham anymore unless we can get a fresh one from the farm. >
No, I never heard of such a thing. Wouldn't that just be a pork roast?
No, different cut, different taste (unless it is specifically a ham roast which is a boneless ham). Ham is the actual pork butt or leg portion. Most roasts are from loin. This sort of explains it:
In St. Louis, the call pork shoulder "pork butt." It's true.
You're both incorrect. A "pork butt" (Boston butt) refers to a particular portion of the shoulder, not the entire shoulder.
And ham can be whole, shank portion, or "butt portion"... there is no pork section called "ham butt"... the proper designation is "ham, butt portion". And exactly where to demarcate meat cuts depends on *where* geographically... for example, in many locales a ham (especially a cured ham) includes part of the sirloin.
It's a small organic farm and a friend of a friend. You just gotta know the right people, Kevin! 😉 He doesn't always have pigs but when he does we try to get in on the slaughter, and buy a half-pig.
Well, looks like I'll have to go to Plan B. I had a look at the Carlton Farms website, but that didn't look promising. Maybe I'll try New Seasons or the butcher in the Uptown shopping center - oh yeah, there's Gartner's on the east side.
It's a small organic farm and a friend of a friend. You just gotta know the right people, Kevin! 😉 He doesn't always have pigs but when he does we try to get in on the slaughter, and buy a half-pig.
Well, looks like I'll have to go to Plan B. I had a look at the Carlton Farms website, but that didn't look promising. Maybe I'll try New Seasons or the butcher in the Uptown shopping center - oh yeah, there's Gartner's on the east side.
Dang...you know the city a lot better than I do. I love living here, though. Got caught in the rain shower today with an entire cart of groceries and my tot, though!
Dang...you know the city a lot better than I do. I love living here, though. Got caught in the rain shower today with an entire cart of groceries and my tot, though!
Well, I lived in Portland for 31 years before moving to Northern CA for work in 2005. BUT, I visit Portland for a week about every second month. My world works in reverse to my preferences. I would prefer to live in Portland and visit California occasionally. I know you had rain - so did we - because I read the O, selectively, online.
Well, I lived in Portland for 31 years before moving to Northern CA for work in 2005. BUT, I visit Portland for a week about every second month. My world works in reverse to my preferences. I would prefer to live in Portland and visit California occasionally.
That's what we do. Just spent 5 glorious days at the Beach House in Half Moon Bay. I like the CA coast better than OR...
That's what we do. Just spent 5 glorious days at the Beach House in Half Moon Bay. I like the CA coast better than OR...
Lucky you! The Beach House is a favorite spot. The wife and I are regulars there. We usually combine it with whale watching and deep sea fishing over at pillar point harbor.
That's what we do. Just spent 5 glorious days at the Beach House in Half Moon Bay. I like the CA coast better than OR...
Lucky you! The Beach House is a favorite spot. The wife and I are regulars there. We usually combine it with whale watching and deep sea fishing over at pillar point harbor.
We just discovered it. We were married on the cliff (which is now rapidly eroding) at San Gregorio in 2000, and so HMB is a special place for us. We used to stay at Zaballa in the big suite, but since it turned management, it's gone downhill. Beach House is awesome. My favorite thing to do is play at the Fizgerald tide pools or go to the beach in the early AM - particularly Pescadero. We just sprinkled our dog's ashes there as it used to be a favorite romping place for her, when they allowed dogs. I love that entire area. It's so amazing to drive along some of the most incredible coastline in the world and see artichokes growing right next to the ocean. 🙂
That's what we do. Just spent 5 glorious days at the Beach House in Half Moon Bay. I like the CA coast better than OR...
Having not gone there in many years, I went to Half Moon Bay on a day trip last fall (wonderful early to mid October weather). I had lunch at a brew pub sort of place - don't recall the name, but I could find it again. Food and beer were acceptable to good, but that's what I expected. The view, however, was stunning. After that, I wandered around, then drove back the long, slow way toward San Jose along Hwy 9. I had an early dinner at a place called - I think - La Bruschetta. I'd go back. I'll have to check out this Beach House place.
