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After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the pump of choice?
Maureen Helinski

Maureen,

I suggest you join the IP list and talk to the many pumpers there. insulin-pumpers.orginsulin-pumpers.orgOpen ↗ it
also depends upon what your insurance will cover, unless you're going to pay for it yourself.

I use a MiniMed 508.

good luck.

RK

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After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the

pump

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of choice? Maureen Helinski

508. My wife has the Paradigm. I like the 508 better, but I just found out here that there is a new
Paradigm that holds about 300 units coming out soon (?).

The 508 does pretty much everything a pumper needs and it's slow delivery of boluses at a rate of
1.5/minute is a feature that is sure to draw a large debate, if history is a predictor of future
events. Minimed feels that insulin will "pool" in the subcutaneous tissue and lead to dosing errors
if it is injected too fast. Be that as it may, I've had 3 different Minimed pumps since 1996 and all
I can tell you is they have changed my life for the better. eat when you want. sleep in on the
weekends. exercise when you want with very little "lead time" to worry about when on Humalog, even
an intelligent bolusing method for pizza and high fat dinners.

any questions, fire away... dave

Maureen Helinski said:

After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the pump of choice? Maureen
Helinski

Maureen,

Minimed used to be a first class outfit. After their purchase by Medtronic, many things, including
customer service, went down hill. I am currently on a 511, and for the most part, it does its job
well. I am very seriously considering the Animas as a replacement when the current warranty runs
out. One thing to consider is which pump(s) are your doctors comfortable supporting? Regardless of
which pump you wind up getting, best of luck with it. 🙂

Randy

Maureen Helinski said:

After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the pump of choice? Maureen
Helinski

I have a 511. Given the choice, now, I would probably choose another maker.

The pump has not been bad--I did have to replace it when my original one was submerged 6 inches in
water (look at older messages in this group at groups.google.com for details on that fiasco).

It seems that every month or so, I am hearing additional bad news about Medtronic/Minimed concerning
their customer support.

I am monitoring my relationship with the company. My last e-mail inquiry took 6 days before
a response. After writing a letter complaining about their service, it took two months
before I received a written response (although I will admit, I was phoned within a week of
mailing my letter).

If there is no improvement, my next pump will not be made by them--and I refuse to upgrade to the
512 to give them even financial support to continue their current mode of operation.

Maureen Helinski said:

After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the pump of choice?
Maureen Helinski

The MiniMed Paradigm is my pump of choice. Mainly because it's the smallest and looks and wears like
a pager. I also like the menuing structure and that it doesn't use icons that look like syringes.

I have tried to get people on the IP list to discuss pros and cons of their models, but most people
only have good to say. There is no critical analysis.

Here's a site that has a table which gives the specifications of each pump.

diabetesnet.cominsulin pump models.phpOpen ↗

Also, check out:

childrenwithdiabetes.compumpsOpen ↗

And the latest news:

childrenwithdiabetes.comAnimas IR1200.htmOpen ↗

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Antonio in Los Angeles Age 37, Type 1 for 10 years Paradigm 512

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Maureen,

I suggest you join the IP list and talk to the many pumpers there. insulin-pumpers.orginsulin-pumpers.orgOpen ↗
it also depends upon what your insurance will cover, unless you're going to pay for it yourself.

I use a MiniMed 508.

good luck.

RK

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After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the

pump

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of choice? Maureen Helinski

I agree with you totally; when MiniMed was bought by Medtronic their service went to hell. I don't
trust them anymore, but I'm not about to give up my pump, either. sigh.

dave

Randy Sigman said:

Maureen,

Minimed used to be a first class outfit. After their purchase by Medtronic, many things, including
customer service, went down hill. I am currently on a 511, and for the most part, it does its job
well. I am very seriously considering the Animas as a replacement when the current warranty runs
out. One thing to consider is which pump(s) are your doctors comfortable supporting? Regardless of
which pump you wind up getting, best of luck with it. 🙂

Randy

Maureen Helinski said:

After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the pump of choice? Maureen
Helinski

which pump?

Group: misc.health.diabetes Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 5:31pm From: [email hidden]
(Maureen=A0Helinski) After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the pump of
choice? Maureen Helinski

well i am having problems getting them to return calls. have also sent them cert letters and have
not gotten an answer.<card was
returned>

the 511 was sold as water proof and then they send a letter saying HAY GUYS WE GOOFED its not
water proof.

now if you have a pump failure they just drop one off at your door.they are cheap to build.

but in my opinion if you have a real problem you could be screwed.

am planning on taking legal action soon. hell all i want is an answer to a few questions. there not
calling or writing is causing the problem.

i am not a lawsuit happy person. no one wins but its there fault for not wanting to contact me and
my lawyer is writing the next letter.

case

the case, minus a few cans!

you know why they don't return your phone calls don't you? 🙂 you are now on their [censored] list for
rocking the boat! Give 'em hell, but keep pumping!

dave

IF YOU CAN'T SWIM DON'T JUMP IN said:

which pump?

Group: misc.health.diabetes Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 5:31pm From: [email hidden] (Maureen
Helinski) After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the pump of choice?
Maureen Helinski

Quoted message said:

well i am having problems getting them to return calls. have also sent them cert letters and have
not gotten an answer.<card was
returned>

the 511 was sold as water proof and then they send a letter saying HAY GUYS WE GOOFED its not
water proof.

now if you have a pump failure they just drop one off at your door.they are cheap to build.

but in my opinion if you have a real problem you could be screwed.

am planning on taking legal action soon. hell all i want is an answer to a few questions. there
not calling or writing is causing the problem.

i am not a lawsuit happy person. no one wins but its there fault for not wanting to contact me and
my lawyer is writing the next letter.

case

the case, minus a few cans!

I have the Web address of a law firm that specializes in class action litigation for plaintiffs.
Would you like it?

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Antonio in Los Angeles Age 37, Type 1 for 10 years Paradigm 512

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which pump?

Group: misc.health.diabetes Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 5:31pm From: [email hidden] (Maureen
Helinski) After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the pump of choice?
Maureen Helinski

well i am having problems getting them to return calls. have also sent them cert letters and have
not gotten an answer.<card was
returned>

the 511 was sold as water proof and then they send a letter saying HAY GUYS WE GOOFED its not
water proof.

now if you have a pump failure they just drop one off at your door.they are cheap to build.

but in my opinion if you have a real problem you could be screwed.

am planning on taking legal action soon. hell all i want is an answer to a few questions. there not
calling or writing is causing the problem.

i am not a lawsuit happy person. no one wins but its there fault for not wanting to contact me and
my lawyer is writing the next letter.

case

the case, minus a few cans!

The only person who "wins" with a class action suit is the lawyer. Most plaintiff's get only a tiny
fraction of the money that is awarded while the lawyers walk away with millions. If you have a suit,
file it on its own merits.

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I have the Web address of a law firm that specializes in class action litigation for plaintiffs.
Would you like it?

--
Antonio in Los Angeles Age 37, Type 1 for 10 years Paradigm 512

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which pump?

Group: misc.health.diabetes Date: Thu, Nov 6, 2003, 5:31pm From: [email hidden] (Maureen
Helinski) After 20 years type 1 I have decided to go on the pump. Is Minimed the pump of choice?
Maureen Helinski

Quoted message said:

well i am having problems getting them to return calls. have also sent them cert letters and have
not gotten an answer.<card was
returned>

the 511 was sold as water proof and then they send a letter saying HAY GUYS WE GOOFED its not
water proof.

now if you have a pump failure they just drop one off at your door.they are cheap to build.

but in my opinion if you have a real problem you could be screwed.

am planning on taking legal action soon. hell all i want is an answer to a few questions. there
not calling or writing is causing the problem.

i am not a lawsuit happy person. no one wins but its there fault for not wanting to contact me and
my lawyer is writing the next letter.

case

the case, minus a few cans!

cool! We pumpers have to stick together! I think Minimed doesn't want anyone to keep their old pumps
because they are afraid the sale of a pump will cut into their new pump sales. Why else would they
have been pressuring me to return my old pump 2 years after the fact? Greed.

dave

IF YOU CAN'T SWIM DON'T JUMP IN said:

Re: which pump?

Group: misc.health.diabetes Date: Fri, Nov 7, 2003, 2:30am (EST+5) From: [email hidden] (Bay
Area Dave) you know why they don't return your phone calls don't you? 🙂 you are now on their [censored]
list for rocking the boat! Give 'em hell, but keep pumping! dave

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have a box of AAA BATTS and tons of tubing sets that a friend gave me. <she has a 508> they sent
her a large box of stuff for a 511. HEE HEE

case

the case, minus a few cans!

The 712 is available, but as of 11/14/03. MiniMed isn't selling the 300ml reservoirs for it yet.

Call the supply "800" number before you listen to the salesman. That's who I talked to today.

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Greetings,

Since nobody else has mentioned it yet, MiniMed has a solution the 168

unit

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limit problem on their Paradigm pumps.

They now have a version (the 712) which has a longer chamber and longer , 300 unit, reservoir.

The longer reservoir protrudes out a little further from the case. We will need to see whether it
causes any complaints.

It appears that the 508 pump is being phased out with the advent of the

712.

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BTW, the bolus wizard has been extremely popular with upgraders who count carbs, and we are seeing
better insulin bolus dose decisions as a result.

Cheers, WCB

that's a fine howdy-do! Minimed continues to astound. sigh...

dave

Rob Walker said:

The 712 is available, but as of 11/14/03. MiniMed isn't selling the 300ml reservoirs for it yet.

Call the supply "800" number before you listen to the salesman. That's who I talked to today.

"William C Biggs, MD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Greetings,

Since nobody else has mentioned it yet, MiniMed has a solution the 168

unit

Quoted message said:

limit problem on their Paradigm pumps.

They now have a version (the 712) which has a longer chamber and longer , 300 unit, reservoir.

The longer reservoir protrudes out a little further from the case. We will need to see whether it
causes any complaints.

It appears that the 508 pump is being phased out with the advent of the

712.

Quoted message said:

BTW, the bolus wizard has been extremely popular with upgraders who count carbs, and we are seeing
better insulin bolus dose decisions as a result.

Cheers, WCB

Rob Walker said:

The 712 is available, but as of 11/14/03. MiniMed isn't selling the 300ml reservoirs for it yet.

That must be some king size pump if it can hold a 300ml reservoir......

maybe they should petition Lilly to make U200 or U400??

dave

matt weber said:

Rob Walker said:

The 712 is available, but as of 11/14/03. MiniMed isn't selling the 300ml reservoirs for it yet.

That must be some king size pump if it can hold a 300ml reservoir......

there already is U500 on the market...Maybe they could calibrate the pump for that?

matt weber said:

Rob Walker said:

The 712 is available, but as of 11/14/03. MiniMed isn't selling the 300ml reservoirs for it yet.

That must be some king size pump if it can hold a 300ml reservoir......

Dave,

The Paradigm 511 has a user option to calibrate to U-50. It is then much simpler to use U-500 since
everything was simply 10x more ,,, 0.1 unit was really 1 unit, 1.0 was really 10 units, etc.

U-500 Humulin R is significantly more viscous, but it works in a pump. The onset of action is slower
than U-100 Humulin R though.

Perhaps MiniMed was uncomfortable with type 2's using U-500 in their pumps....the U-50 option is
missing from the 512 pump. Even so, a 511 version would hold over 750 units of insulin.

BTW, last I heard U-200 Humalog pump insulin was still on the drawing board.

WCB

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there already is U500 on the market...Maybe they could calibrate the pump for that?

matt weber said:

Rob Walker said:

The 712 is available, but as of 11/14/03. MiniMed isn't selling the

300ml

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reservoirs for it yet.

That must be some king size pump if it can hold a 300ml reservoir......

VERY interesting, doc. It didn't occur to me that while there is U500 concentration insulin on the
market, there isn't any Humalog. U200 Humalog would be the cat's meow for some insulin needy pumping
folks to avoid changing their sets every day and a half. I've had a few spells where I've taken over
100 units in a day. Not even sick, either; just a combo of factors like bad diet, etc. Generally I
use 33-50 per day, so I can just get three days out of a set change. I don't like the way the
reservoir sticks out of the 508 when set to the 300U mode, so mine can hold a max of 150.

In my opinion, pumping regular defeats one of great advantages of pump therapy. Quick acting insulin
for corrective action and quicker dissipation in anticipation of exercise, allowing a more varied
lifestyle. I pump Velosulin BR for quite some time, and really disliked the lag time. I couldn't
wait until Humalog hit the stores. I was the first one in our area to get it.

dave

William C Biggs said:

Dave,

The Paradigm 511 has a user option to calibrate to U-50. It is then much simpler to use U-500
since everything was simply 10x more ,,, 0.1 unit was really 1 unit, 1.0 was really 10 units, etc.

U-500 Humulin R is significantly more viscous, but it works in a pump. The onset of action is
slower than U-100 Humulin R though.

Perhaps MiniMed was uncomfortable with type 2's using U-500 in their pumps....the U-50 option is
missing from the 512 pump. Even so, a 511 version would hold over 750 units of insulin.

BTW, last I heard U-200 Humalog pump insulin was still on the drawing board.

WCB

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there already is U500 on the market...Maybe they could calibrate the pump for that?

matt weber said:

On Fri, 14 Nov 2003 21:06:09 -0500, "Rob Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote:

>The 712 is available, but as of 11/14/03. MiniMed isn't selling the

300ml

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>reservoirs for it yet.
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That must be some king size pump if it can hold a 300ml reservoir......