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  1. Me again.

    To continue the touring theme of my recent posts, I'm now after a mini pump
    to carry with me when touring that'll get to at least 100psi, preferably
    120psi, for presta valves (not fussed about schrader as well, only going to
    be used on the road bike). Any recommendations? A lot of the ones i've seen
    claim to get to 160psi, but I don't believe them!

    Future posts are looking likely to include requests for recommendations
    about panniers, racks, bar bags etc. I'm still considering my options on new
    wheels (after the very good point was made about the problems with breaking
    a spoke on 16-spoke wheels).

    Thanks again all.

    Paul

  2. "Paul D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Me again.

    To continue the touring theme of my recent posts, I'm now after a mini
    pump to carry with me when touring that'll get to at least 100psi,
    preferably 120psi, for presta valves (not fussed about schrader as well,
    only going to be used on the road bike). Any recommendations? A lot of the
    ones i've seen claim to get to 160psi, but I don't believe them!

    Topeak Road Morph can handle both valve types:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=4000000600

    --
    Simon M.

  3. Paul D said:

    To continue the touring theme of my recent posts, I'm now after a
    mini pump to carry with me when touring that'll get to at least
    100psi, preferably 120psi, for presta valves (not fussed about
    schrader as well, only going to be used on the road bike). Any
    recommendations? A lot of the ones i've seen claim to get to 160psi,
    but I don't believe them!

    Nor did I until I got a Topeak Pocket Rocket. I got bored and stopped
    testing at 140 psi. These high pressures are possible when the barrel
    diameter is very small. However, it takes (a large number of strokes) to
    pump the tyre because it's so short.

    I don't beleive 120 psi would be easily (comfortably) possible with a much
    fatter mini pump, but why not get a full-length Zefal HPX? One can be
    made to fit under the top tube using a clip-on peg or zip tie (acting as
    peg from head tube).

    ~PB

  4. in message <[email hidden]>, Paul D

    (') said:

    Me again.

    To continue the touring theme of my recent posts, I'm now after a mini
    pump to carry with me when touring that'll get to at least 100psi,
    preferably 120psi, for presta valves (not fussed about schrader as
    well, only going to be used on the road bike).

    Blackburn Airstick. I now have three of them, on different bikes.

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

    The trouble with Simon is that he only opens his mouth to change feet.
    ;; of me, by a 'friend'

  5. Simon Mason said:


    "Paul D" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Me again.

    To continue the touring theme of my recent posts, I'm now after a mini
    pump to carry with me when touring that'll get to at least 100psi,
    preferably 120psi, for presta valves (not fussed about schrader as well,
    only going to be used on the road bike). Any recommendations? A lot of the
    ones i've seen claim to get to 160psi, but I don't believe them!

    Topeak Road Morph can handle both valve types:

    http://www.wiggle.co.uk/?ProductID=4000000600

    Road Morph gets my recommendation too, although I wouldn't actually
    call it a "minipump". At 340mm length, it's half way between a
    minipump and a full length frame-fitting pump. Still small enough to
    fit in a pannier though...

    It is the pump I used on my last day at my old job - I repaired
    punctures on 14 wheelchairs.

  6. Paul D said:

    Me again.

    To continue the touring theme of my recent posts, I'm now after a mini pump
    to carry with me when touring that'll get to at least 100psi, preferably
    120psi, for presta valves (not fussed about schrader as well, only going to
    be used on the road bike). Any recommendations? A lot of the ones i've seen
    claim to get to 160psi, but I don't believe them!

    We have one of the Crank Bros pumps. It seems reasonable, considering
    the small size. But the Topeak Morph is certainly better.

    James
    --
    If I have seen further than others, it is
    by treading on the toes of giants.
    http://www.ne.jp/asahi/julesandjames/home/

  7. Simon Brooke said:

    Blackburn Airstick. I now have three of them, on different bikes.

    Yes, I'm very happy with my Airstick and was going to suggest the
    same. However, when I looked for a link at Wiggle I saw they've
    changed the design.

    I don't know what the new one is like, whether the new design changes
    are just cosmetic or if they have tinkered with important stuff like
    materials, or tube diameter etc... didn't want to recommend without
    knowing.

    I guess now might be a good time to see if anyone has any of the old
    ones for sale at a knock down price.

    --

    Call me "Bob"

    "More oneness, less categories,
    Open hearts, no strategies"

    Email address is spam trapped, to reply directly remove the beverage.

  8. On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 17:17:45 -0000, "Simon Mason"
    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Topeak Road Morph can handle both valve types:

    Seconded, and it can also easily handle 120psi (for certain values of
    easily - if you don't have it well grounded and it goes sideways as
    you shove down, your knuckles could suffer).

    Guy
    --
    "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels
    blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
    onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
    around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

  9. Just zis Guy said:


    Guy

    You're back!

    Tony

  10. "Paul D" <[email hidden]> writed in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Me again.

    To continue the touring theme of my recent posts, I'm now after a mini
    pump to carry with me when touring that'll get to at least 100psi,
    preferably 120psi, for presta valves (not fussed about schrader as
    well, only going to be used on the road bike). Any recommendations? A
    lot of the ones i've seen claim to get to 160psi, but I don't believe
    them!

    Future posts are looking likely to include requests for
    recommendations about panniers, racks, bar bags etc. I'm still
    considering my options on new wheels (after the very good point was
    made about the problems with breaking a spoke on 16-spoke wheels).

    Thanks again all.

    Paul


    Is a CO2 cartridge 'pump' an alternative? (genuine question - I've never
    used one)

  11. "Paul D" <[email hidden]> writed in
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:

    Me again.

    To continue the touring theme of my recent posts, I'm now after a mini
    pump to carry with me when touring that'll get to at least 100psi,
    preferably 120psi, for presta valves (not fussed about schrader as
    well, only going to be used on the road bike). Any recommendations? A
    lot of the ones i've seen claim to get to 160psi, but I don't believe
    them!


    Would a CO2 'pump' fit the bill? (Genuine question - I've never used one)
    (Sorry if this appears twice)

  12. Paul D said:

    Future posts are looking likely to include requests for recommendations
    about panniers, racks, bar bags etc.

    OK, I'll go first:

    All panniers will hold stuff.

    More expensive panniers will hold stuff securely without the risk of
    bouncing off the luggage rack.

    Most expensive panniers will hold stuff securely without the risk of
    bouncing off the luggage rack and will be totally waterproof.

    My personal recommendation is a pair of "Vaude Worldtramp Plus II",
    available from gearshift. They are big, have secure fixings, and come
    with an external pocket. The main compartment will survive being
    chucked in a river, and is therefore no problem to use in torrential
    rain. The pocket will also survive the worst weather possible but will
    not stand up to submersion. To the rear of these panniers I have added
    an ortlieb "bolt-on" pocket. These do not interfere with the
    waterproof quality of the main bag.

    I am led to believe that Ortlieb panniers are of a similarly excellent
    spec.

    If you want front panniers, the smaller Vaude Worldcycle II will do
    the job. No pockets but otherwise as above. I don't recommend the
    Halfords own-brand front rack (http://www.artybee.net/html/week_4.html
    2nd photo down)

    For a rear rack I recommend a Halfords own brand one - the Megaload.
    This is the most adjustable rack I have ever used, being adjustable
    for height above ground and fore-aft distance to allow "just enough"
    heel clearance. The main reason for liking this rack is that on each
    side, about two inches below the racktop is a horizontal rail. This
    provides an alternative point to which you can fix panniers, which
    then simplifies the use of a racktop bag (Vaude again ...) such as the
    Topcase II. The lower mounting rails are by no means essential, but
    they are a very nice touch since they make access to the panniers much
    easier when the topcase is still attached.

    Barbags: I had trouble deciding over these and sought advice from this
    group. Recommended brands were Carradice and Altura Orkney.
    Surprisingly the Vaude barbag was not mentioned.

    I purchased the Orkney for several reasons: 1) The mounting system was
    Click-Fix which is secure and simple. 2) The bag was a decent size for
    my needs. 3) It was almost but not quite entirely waterproof (it has a
    slip-over waterproof cover which unfortunately remains open at the
    back). 4) The real decision-making point: It has a facility to mount
    lights underneath, which would otherwise be obscured if they were
    handlebar mounted.

    My only gripes with the Orkney are the slightly inadequate waterproof
    cover, the fact that the waterproof mapcase cannot be fitted when the
    bag's cover is in place, and the fact that the glue holding the velcro
    onto the mapcase melted in bright Scottish sunlight.

    Hope this essay helps somewhat.

  13. Mike Gayler said:


    Is a CO2 cartridge 'pump' an alternative? (genuine question - I've never
    used one)

    No. You need to carry a pump anyway for when the cartridge runs out
    otherwise you'll have to walk home. So its just extra weight at the end
    of the day and you might as well stick with the pump. The cartridge is
    best for when you need to reinflate quickly such as during a race.

    Tony

  14. "Richard Bates" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Paul D said:

    Future posts are looking likely to include requests for recommendations
    about panniers, racks, bar bags etc.

    OK, I'll go first:

    All panniers will hold stuff.

    More expensive panniers will hold stuff securely without the risk of
    bouncing off the luggage rack.

    Most expensive panniers will hold stuff securely without the risk of
    bouncing off the luggage rack and will be totally waterproof.

    My personal recommendation is a pair of "Vaude Worldtramp Plus II",
    available from gearshift. They are big, have secure fixings, and come
    with an external pocket. The main compartment will survive being
    chucked in a river, and is therefore no problem to use in torrential
    rain. The pocket will also survive the worst weather possible but will
    not stand up to submersion. To the rear of these panniers I have added
    an ortlieb "bolt-on" pocket. These do not interfere with the
    waterproof quality of the main bag.

    I am led to believe that Ortlieb panniers are of a similarly excellent
    spec.

    I've looked at some ortlieb panniers & thought they were good but pricey, so
    I was going to go down the 'cheap & functional' route with some large zip n
    roll top plastic bags the local army/navy store recommended by a mate.

    Quoted message said:


    If you want front panniers, the smaller Vaude Worldcycle II will do
    the job. No pockets but otherwise as above. I don't recommend the
    Halfords own-brand front rack (http://www.artybee.net/html/week_4.html
    2nd photo down)

    For a rear rack I recommend a Halfords own brand one - the Megaload.
    This is the most adjustable rack I have ever used, being adjustable
    for height above ground and fore-aft distance to allow "just enough"
    heel clearance. The main reason for liking this rack is that on each
    side, about two inches below the racktop is a horizontal rail. This
    provides an alternative point to which you can fix panniers, which
    then simplifies the use of a racktop bag (Vaude again ...) such as the
    Topcase II. The lower mounting rails are by no means essential, but
    they are a very nice touch since they make access to the panniers much
    easier when the topcase is still attached.

    I shall head down to Halfords to check this out tomorrow! Another question -
    do all racks fit all bikes or do you get ones specific for road/mtb (due to
    the different rear spacing)?

    Quoted message said:


    Barbags: I had trouble deciding over these and sought advice from this
    group. Recommended brands were Carradice and Altura Orkney.
    Surprisingly the Vaude barbag was not mentioned.

    I purchased the Orkney for several reasons: 1) The mounting system was
    Click-Fix which is secure and simple. 2) The bag was a decent size for
    my needs. 3) It was almost but not quite entirely waterproof (it has a
    slip-over waterproof cover which unfortunately remains open at the
    back). 4) The real decision-making point: It has a facility to mount
    lights underneath, which would otherwise be obscured if they were
    handlebar mounted.

    My only gripes with the Orkney are the slightly inadequate waterproof
    cover, the fact that the waterproof mapcase cannot be fitted when the
    bag's cover is in place, and the fact that the glue holding the velcro
    onto the mapcase melted in bright Scottish sunlight.

    I was looking at a Karrimor one which, although not waterproof, could be
    used with liner bags as mentioned before & had a click-fix & shoulder strap
    with it.

    Quoted message said:

    Hope this essay helps somewhat.

    Not half! Thanks

  15. Paul D <[email hidden]> wrote:

    : To continue the touring theme of my recent posts, I'm now after a mini pump
    : to carry with me when touring that'll get to at least 100psi, preferably
    : 120psi, for presta valves (not fussed about schrader as well, only going to

    WHy a mini-pump? You're touring after all. Just get a Zefal HPX and
    have done. It'll get to 140 PSI (they claim 160 but it really will do
    140) and will do a real 120PSI with ease even with my weedy upper
    body.

    Arthur

    --
    Arthur Clune PGP/GPG Key: http://www.clune.org/pubkey.txt
    It is better to light a candle than to curse the darkness

  16. Paul D said:

    I shall head down to Halfords to check this out tomorrow! Another question -
    do all racks fit all bikes or do you get ones specific for road/mtb (due to
    the different rear spacing)?

    They are the same. The difference between MTB wheels and "road wheels"
    is about an inch diameter - or 1/2 inch radius. The same rack will fit
    both - especially the Megalload.

    I've never really thought about the difference in spacing between road
    and MTB but the vertical legs on racks are sufficiently springy
    anyhow.

  17. in message <[email hidden]>, Call me Bob

    (') said:
    Simon Brooke said:

    Blackburn Airstick. I now have three of them, on different bikes.

    Yes, I'm very happy with my Airstick and was going to suggest the
    same. However, when I looked for a link at Wiggle I saw they've
    changed the design.

    I don't know what the new one is like, whether the new design changes
    are just cosmetic or if they have tinkered with important stuff like
    materials, or tube diameter etc... didn't want to recommend without
    knowing.

    I have one of the 'new' design and two of the 'old'. The change is
    purely cosmetic, and what's important is the same spare parts kit fits
    both. It's the availability of service parts which for me puts the
    Blackburn ahead of the competition (although they also work extremely
    well).

    --
    [email hidden] (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
    ; gif ye hes forget our auld plane Scottis quhilk your mother lerit you,
    ; in tymes cuming I sall wryte to you my mind in Latin, for I am nocht
    ; acquyntit with your Southeron
    ;; Letter frae Ninian Winyet tae John Knox datit 27t October 1563

  18. On Sat, 22 Jan 2005 09:16:48 +0000, Tony Raven <[email hidden]>

    wrote in message : said:

    You're back!

    No, just passing through. Normal lack of service will be resumed in
    about an hour...

    Guy
    --
    "then came ye chavves, theyre cartes girded wyth candels
    blue, and theyre beastes wyth straynge horn-lyke thyngs
    onn theyre arses that theyre fartes be herde from myles
    around." Chaucer, the Sheppey Tales

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