milk & strep throat

George Lagergren said:

Topic: milk & strep throat

There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.

However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the ear
infection or strep throat from happening in the first place. Without
the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat germ
may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.

Yup, I phrased it badly.

However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep throat
or ear infection.

Cathy

Topic: milk & strep throat

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George Lagergren wrote:
There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.

However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the

ear

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infection or strep throat from happening in the first place. Without
the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat

germ

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may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.

"cathyb" <[email hidden]> replied:

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However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep throat
or ear infection.

I disagree. By NOT drinking cow's milk for the past 10
years, I have had NOT one strep throat in that time-frame.

George Lagergren said:

Topic: milk & strep throat

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George Lagergren wrote:
There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.

However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the

ear

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infection or strep throat from happening in the first place. Without
the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat

germ

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may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.

"cathyb" <[email hidden]> replied:

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However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep throat
or ear infection.

I disagree. By NOT drinking cow's milk for the past 10
years, I have had NOT one strep throat in that time-frame.

As you must be aware by now, n=1 means bugger all. Try drinking and not
drinking milk alternatively for several years and you may come up with
some data that mean something. For you. It still won't have any
relevance to anyone else.

As a milk drinker who has never had strep throat, I do not take that to
mean that milk drinking can't cause strep throat in others. The fact
that I have never seen any evidence that it does cause strep throat
though, apart from your repeated (and repeated) anecdote, means that
it's not something I worry about.

Cathy

Cathy

cathyb said:

George Lagergren said:

Topic: milk & strep throat

Quoted message said:

George Lagergren wrote:
There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.

However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the

ear

Quoted message said:

infection or strep throat from happening in the first place. Without
the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat

germ

Quoted message said:

may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.

"cathyb" <[email hidden]> replied:

Quoted message said:

However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep throat
or ear infection.

I disagree. By NOT drinking cow's milk for the past 10
years, I have had NOT one strep throat in that time-frame.

As you must be aware by now, n=1 means bugger all. Try drinking and not
drinking milk alternatively for several years and you may come up with
some data that mean something. For you. It still won't have any
relevance to anyone else.

As a milk drinker who has never had strep throat, I do not take that to
mean that milk drinking can't cause strep throat in others. The fact
that I have never seen any evidence that it does cause strep throat
though, apart from your repeated (and repeated) anecdote, means that
it's not something I worry about.

Cathy

Cathy

Cathy, I haven't had cow milk for 10 years. Neither have I had an
annual bout with the flu as I used to, my enlarged prostate is now back
to nearly normal size.

I don't need to go on and off cow milk to know that people weren't
meant to consume it without serious consequences.

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cathyb said:

George Lagergren said:

Topic: milk & strep throat

> George Lagergren wrote:
> There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will

CURE

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> ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear

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> strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the

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"cathyb" <[email hidden]> replied:
> However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep

throat

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> or ear infection.

I disagree. By NOT drinking cow's milk for the past 10
years, I have had NOT one strep throat in that time-frame.

As you must be aware by now, n=1 means bugger all. Try drinking and not
drinking milk alternatively for several years and you may come up with
some data that mean something. For you. It still won't have any
relevance to anyone else.

As a milk drinker who has never had strep throat, I do not take that to
mean that milk drinking can't cause strep throat in others. The fact
that I have never seen any evidence that it does cause strep throat
though, apart from your repeated (and repeated) anecdote, means that
it's not something I worry about.

Cathy

Cathy

Cathy, I haven't had cow milk for 10 years. Neither have I had an
annual bout with the flu as I used to, my enlarged prostate is now back
to nearly normal size.

I don't need to go on and off cow milk to know that people weren't
meant to consume it without serious consequences.

You're right, you don't need scientific proof or medical studies. All you
need to [censored] talk and a website.

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Topic: milk & strep throat

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George Lagergren wrote:
There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.

However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the

ear

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infection or strep throat from happening in the first place.
Without
the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat

germ

Quoted message said:

may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.

"cathyb" <[email hidden]> replied:

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However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep throat
or ear infection.

I disagree. By NOT drinking cow's milk for the past 10
years, I have had NOT one strep throat in that time-frame.

funny...I haven't had a strep throat once in my life.....and I drink milk
and eat dairy daily

your statement does not reflect causality...but coincidence

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Topic: milk & strep throat

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George Lagergren wrote:
There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.

However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the

ear

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infection or strep throat from happening in the first place.
Without
the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat

germ

Quoted message said:

may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.

"cathyb" <[email hidden]> replied:

Quoted message said:

However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep throat
or ear infection.

I disagree. By NOT drinking cow's milk for the past 10
years, I have had NOT one strep throat in that time-frame.

Sorry, missed that. Can you repeat it?

m

George Lagergren said:

Topic: milk & strep throat

Quoted message said:

George Lagergren wrote:
There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.

However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the

ear

Quoted message said:

infection or strep throat from happening in the first place. Without
the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat

germ

Quoted message said:

may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.

"cathyb" <[email hidden]> replied:

Quoted message said:

However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep throat
or ear infection.

I disagree. By NOT drinking cow's milk for the past 10
years, I have had NOT one strep throat in that time-frame.

I used to drink 3-4 glasses of milk daily up to about age 35 (I'm 50
now). Never had strep throat or any other problems from your list that
you claim are caused by milk-drinking. I consume very little milk
these days but continue to eat cheese (mostly feta, goat, paneer and
cheddar) several times per week.

rr

George, one other thing.

Countries like Switzerland are known for their dairy consumption. It
would interesting to see if the problems you mention are a problem
with them. How about the African tribes like the Massai who consume
large quantities of high-fat milk daily. Betcha they don't have strep
throat problems, at least not caused by milk-drinking.

rr

Works for the rest of the world but then we aren't all totally stupid. Most
of us learn from mistakes.

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You're right, you don't need scientific proof or medical studies. All you
need to [censored] talk and a website.

So if they do have strep throat problems to the same magnitude it wouldn't
be from their milk consumption.

....and

If they do **NOT** have the medical problems milk doesn't cause any problems
there.

Heads, I win. Tails, you lose!

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George, one other thing.

Countries like Switzerland are known for their dairy consumption. It
would interesting to see if the problems you mention are a problem
with them. How about the African tribes like the Massai who consume
large quantities of high-fat milk daily. Betcha they don't have strep
throat problems, at least not caused by milk-drinking.

rr

On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:42:33 -0400, "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]>

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So if they do have strep throat problems to the same magnitude it wouldn't
be from their milk consumption.

Do they? They seem to be a pretty healthy group by all accounts.

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...and

If they do **NOT** have the medical problems milk doesn't cause any problems
there.

And it also makes you and George sound like the Chicken Little of the
dairy crowd. LOL.

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Heads, I win. Tails, you lose!

Huh? Ya whatever.

rr

But you didn't answer the question. I already know the answer

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On Sun, 26 Jun 2005 19:42:33 -0400, "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]>

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So if they do have strep throat problems to the same magnitude it

wouldn't

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be from their milk consumption.

Do they? They seem to be a pretty healthy group by all accounts.

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...and

If they do **NOT** have the medical problems milk doesn't cause any

problems

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there.

And it also makes you and George sound like the Chicken Little of the
dairy crowd. LOL.

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Heads, I win. Tails, you lose!

Huh? Ya whatever.

rr

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George Lagergren said:

Topic: milk & strep throat

There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.

However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the ear
infection or strep throat from happening in the first place. Without
the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat germ
may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.

No, that's just something else that emerged from the fantasyland in
which you live.

You have this nutball idea that milk is "mucus-producing" (it isn't)
and that somehow the strep germs are getting trapped in the mucus and
staying in the body. Even if that were true, George, which it isn't,
it wouldn't matter, because if the germs are in the mucus, how can
they infect the body's cells? Furthermore, *all* germs would get
trapped similarly, so there would be an increase in *all* bacterial
infections, not just strep.

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Cathy, I haven't had cow milk for 10 years. Neither have I had an
annual bout with the flu as I used to, my enlarged prostate is now back
to nearly normal size.

I have been OFF cow's milk for about 10 years. No more strep
throats or lung congestion.

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I don't need to go on and off cow milk to know that people weren't
meant to consume it without serious consequences.

One can learn from other people's experience of drinking cow' milk
and having health problems like ear infection; strep throats; asthma / lung
congestion; sinus; hayfever; etc.

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funny...I haven't had a strep throat once in my life.....and I drink milk
and eat dairy daily

You are lucky. btw, do you notice if you have any lung
congestion problems?

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your statement does not reflect causality...but coincidence

Pizza Girl; "banmilk"; Brad and myself have had problems drinking
cow's milk.

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cathyb said:

George Lagergren said:

Topic: milk & strep throat

> George Lagergren wrote:
> There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
> ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
> strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.
>
> However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the
ear
> infection or strep throat from happening in the first place. Without
> the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat
germ
> may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.

"cathyb" <[email hidden]> replied:
> However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep throat
> or ear infection.

I disagree. By NOT drinking cow's milk for the past 10
years, I have had NOT one strep throat in that time-frame.

As you must be aware by now, n=1 means bugger all. Try drinking and not
drinking milk alternatively for several years and you may come up with
some data that mean something. For you. It still won't have any
relevance to anyone else.

As a milk drinker who has never had strep throat, I do not take that to
mean that milk drinking can't cause strep throat in others. The fact
that I have never seen any evidence that it does cause strep throat
though, apart from your repeated (and repeated) anecdote, means that
it's not something I worry about.

Cathy

Cathy

Cathy, I haven't had cow milk for 10 years. Neither have I had an
annual bout with the flu as I used to, my enlarged prostate is now back
to nearly normal size.

I don't need to go on and off cow milk to know that people weren't
meant to consume it without serious consequences.

No you don't, because it's utter bollocks, and whether you take
yourself on and off milk won't make it less so.

Cathy

cathyb said:

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cathyb said:

George Lagergren wrote:

>Topic: milk & strep throat
>
>
>>George Lagergren wrote:
>>There has been a comment on whether NOT drinking cow's milk will CURE
>>ear infections and strep throats. Once a person has an ear infection or
>>strep throat infection, anti-biotics is needed to resolve the infection.
>>
>>However, what NOT drinking cow's milk may just do is to PREVENT the
>
>ear
>
>>infection or strep throat from happening in the first place. Without
>>the drinking of cow's milk, the ear infection germ or the strep throat
>
>germ
>
>>may have a problem of "staying" in the human body.
>
>"cathyb" <[email hidden]> replied:
>
>>However, not drinking milk will neither cure nor prevent strep throat
>>or ear infection.
>
> I disagree. By NOT drinking cow's milk for the past 10
>years, I have had NOT one strep throat in that time-frame.

As you must be aware by now, n=1 means bugger all. Try drinking and not
drinking milk alternatively for several years and you may come up with
some data that mean something. For you. It still won't have any
relevance to anyone else.

As a milk drinker who has never had strep throat, I do not take that to
mean that milk drinking can't cause strep throat in others. The fact
that I have never seen any evidence that it does cause strep throat
though, apart from your repeated (and repeated) anecdote, means that
it's not something I worry about.

Cathy

Cathy

Cathy, I haven't had cow milk for 10 years. Neither have I had an
annual bout with the flu as I used to, my enlarged prostate is now back
to nearly normal size.

I don't need to go on and off cow milk to know that people weren't
meant to consume it without serious consequences.

No you don't, because it's utter bollocks, and whether you take
yourself on and off milk won't make it less so.

Cathy

Notice that effects on his prostate are now included also. So it's strep
throath, ear infections, flu, colds and enlarged prostate. Any limits to
the evils of milk? Will George soon write a book 'The prevention of all
diseases'? That should put Hulda right out of business!

JohnDoe said:

Notice that effects on his prostate [in ref to the "banmilk" poster] are

now included also. So it's

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strep throath, ear infections, flu, colds and enlarged prostate. Any

limits to

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the evils of milk? Will George soon write a book 'The prevention of all
diseases'? That should put Hulda right out of business!

You are correct. Also include sinus problems and hayfever
problems to the possible adverse health effects for humans drinking cow's
milk.

btw, I do not need to write a book on the possible adverse health
effects from drinking cow's milk.

Because Richard Cohen, webmaster of the www.notmilk.com web site
has already written two excellent books in ref to cow's milk: "Milk: The
Deadly Poison" and "Milk: A to Z."