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Topic: cow's milk & disease

If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
(cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles on
cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.

So what?
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--Rich

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Topic: cow's milk & disease

If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
(cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles on
cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.

So what?

By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the miniscule
minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody drinks milk
from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk.

cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help.

--Rich

Rich said:

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Topic: cow's milk & disease

If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
(cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles on
cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.

So what?

By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the miniscule
minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody drinks milk
from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk.

cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help.

--Rich

And technically, what shows up on the shelf is really no longer
actually
"milk", but more the processed and denatured remnants of what used to
be milk.

Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
shelf life measured in days.

The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on
the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.

George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
which is the culprit in all of these diseases.

TC

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"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Topic: cow's milk & disease
>
> If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
> (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles
> on
> cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.

So what?

By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the miniscule
minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody drinks
milk
from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk.

cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help.

--Rich

And technically, what shows up on the shelf is really no longer
actually
"milk", but more the processed and denatured remnants of what used to
be milk.

Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
shelf life measured in days.

Goes directly to the table with bacteria live and proliferating, separates
itself, and lacking the vitamins A and D, which are the only additives
permitted in milk by the FDA.

Quoted message said:

The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on
the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.

Days, maybe, not weeks.

Quoted message said:

George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
which is the culprit in all of these diseases.

Milk is not the "culprit" in any of the diseases that George attributes to
it. Though it is "denatured" in the sense that its characteristics have been
changed somewhat by pasteurization and homogenization, milk is not denatured
in the chemical sense of the word. "Denatured" is not an appropriate
pejorative word.
--

--Rich

Recommended websites:

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/

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TC

Rich said:

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Rich said:

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>
> "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
>> Topic: cow's milk & disease
>>
>> If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
>> (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles
>> on
>> cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
>
> So what?

By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the miniscule
minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody drinks
milk
from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk.

cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help.

--Rich

And technically, what shows up on the shelf is really no longer
actually
"milk", but more the processed and denatured remnants of what used to
be milk.

Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
shelf life measured in days.

Goes directly to the table with bacteria live and proliferating, separates
itself, and lacking the vitamins A and D, which are the only additives
permitted in milk by the FDA.

Healthy bacteria, when the milk is from a healthy well-fed cow in a
clean healthy environment.

The milk is physically separated and turned into milk solids and
liquids, then they are re-formulated to skim, 2% or "whole" 3.5% etc.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on
the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.

Days, maybe, not weeks.

UHT milk last 5 weeks. Ultra high temperature pasteurization. It
completely denatures and deforms the casein.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
which is the culprit in all of these diseases.

Milk is not the "culprit" in any of the diseases that George attributes to
it. Though it is "denatured" in the sense that its characteristics have been
changed somewhat by pasteurization and homogenization, milk is not denatured
in the chemical sense of the word. "Denatured" is not an appropriate
pejorative word.
--

--Rich

UHT denatures the milk. With every perjorative inflection that that
implies.

TC

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Rich said:

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Rich wrote:
> "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> >
> > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:[email hidden]...
> >> Topic: cow's milk & disease
> >>
> >> If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
> >> (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles
> >> on
> >> cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
> >
> > So what?
>
> By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the miniscule
> minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody drinks
> milk
> from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk.
>
> cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help.
>
> --Rich

And technically, what shows up on the shelf is really no longer
actually
"milk", but more the processed and denatured remnants of what used to
be milk.

Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
shelf life measured in days.

Goes directly to the table with bacteria live and proliferating, separates
itself, and lacking the vitamins A and D, which are the only additives
permitted in milk by the FDA.

Healthy bacteria, when the milk is from a healthy well-fed cow in a
clean healthy environment.

The milk is physically separated and turned into milk solids and
liquids, then they are re-formulated to skim, 2% or "whole" 3.5% etc.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on
the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.

Days, maybe, not weeks.

UHT milk last 5 weeks. Ultra high temperature pasteurization. It
completely denatures and deforms the casein.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
which is the culprit in all of these diseases.

Milk is not the "culprit" in any of the diseases that George attributesto
it. Though it is "denatured" in the sense that its characteristics havebeen
changed somewhat by pasteurization and homogenization, milk is not denatured
in the chemical sense of the word. "Denatured" is not an appropriate
pejorative word.
--

--Rich

UHT denatures the milk. With every perjorative inflection that that
implies.

TC

de·na·ture (d-nchr)
tr.v. de·na·tured, de·na·tur·ing, de·na·tures

To change the nature or natural qualities of.

Biochemistry
To cause the tertiary structure of (a protein) to unfold, as with heat,
alkali, or acid, so that some of its original properties, especially
its biological activity, are diminished or eliminated.

TC

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Rich said:

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Rich wrote:
> "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> news:[email hidden]...
> >
> > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> > news:[email hidden]...
> >> Topic: cow's milk & disease
> >>
> >> If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease
> >> or
> >> (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for
> >> articles
> >> on
> >> cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
> >
> > So what?
>
> By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the
> miniscule
> minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody
> drinks
> milk
> from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk.
>
> cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help.
>
> --Rich

And technically, what shows up on the shelf is really no longer
actually
"milk", but more the processed and denatured remnants of what used to
be milk.

Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
shelf life measured in days.

Goes directly to the table with bacteria live and proliferating,
separates
itself, and lacking the vitamins A and D, which are the only additives
permitted in milk by the FDA.

Healthy bacteria, when the milk is from a healthy well-fed cow in a
clean healthy environment.

Not necessarily. Those factors are certainly important if you intend to
drink raw milk, but not as important as rapid cooling of the milk, and clean
cold storage. But even in the best of conditions, raw milk is never as safe
as pasteurized.

Quoted message said:

The milk is physically separated and turned into milk solids and
liquids, then they are re-formulated to skim, 2% or "whole" 3.5% etc.

Sort of. The drinking milk on your grocers shelves has never been reduced to
solids, but the milkfat content is, of course, adjusted.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on
the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.

Days, maybe, not weeks.

UHT milk last 5 weeks. Ultra high temperature pasteurization. It
completely denatures and deforms the casein.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
which is the culprit in all of these diseases.

Milk is not the "culprit" in any of the diseases that George attributes
to
it. Though it is "denatured" in the sense that its characteristics have
been
changed somewhat by pasteurization and homogenization, milk is not
denatured
in the chemical sense of the word. "Denatured" is not an appropriate
pejorative word.

UHT denatures the milk. With every perjorative inflection that that
implies.

TC

de·na·ture (d-nchr)
tr.v. de·na·tured, de·na·tur·ing, de·na·tures

To change the nature or natural qualities of.

Biochemistry
To cause the tertiary structure of (a protein) to unfold, as with heat,
alkali, or acid, so that some of its original properties, especially
its biological activity, are diminished or eliminated.

TC

Yes, UHT pasteurized milk is changed more than the more common shelf milk.
So what? It is still a good food. I think the flavor is off a little for
drinking, but as an ingredient in baking or other cooking it is fine. Even
if the proteins are unwound, all the nutritious amino acids are still there.

None of the processing done to milk changes the fact that it is a wholesome
food.
--

--Rich

Recommended websites:

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/

Rich said:

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TC said:

Rich said:

"TC" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
>
> Rich wrote:
>> "Rich" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> news:[email hidden]...
>> >
>> > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
>> > news:[email hidden]...
>> >> Topic: cow's milk & disease
>> >>
>> >> If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease
>> >> or
>> >> (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for
>> >> articles
>> >> on
>> >> cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
>> >
>> > So what?
>>
>> By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the
>> miniscule
>> minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody
>> drinks
>> milk
>> from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk.
>>
>> cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help.
>>
>> --Rich
>
> And technically, what shows up on the shelf is really no longer
> actually
> "milk", but more the processed and denatured remnants of what used to
> be milk.
>
> Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
> shelf life measured in days.

Goes directly to the table with bacteria live and proliferating,
separates
itself, and lacking the vitamins A and D, which are the only additives
permitted in milk by the FDA.

Healthy bacteria, when the milk is from a healthy well-fed cow in a
clean healthy environment.

Not necessarily. Those factors are certainly important if you intend to
drink raw milk, but not as important as rapid cooling of the milk, and clean
cold storage. But even in the best of conditions, raw milk is never as safe
as pasteurized.

Quoted message said:

The milk is physically separated and turned into milk solids and
liquids, then they are re-formulated to skim, 2% or "whole" 3.5% etc.

Sort of. The drinking milk on your grocers shelves has never been reducedto
solids, but the milkfat content is, of course, adjusted.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>
> The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
> re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
> shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment andon
> the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.

Days, maybe, not weeks.

UHT milk last 5 weeks. Ultra high temperature pasteurization. It
completely denatures and deforms the casein.

Quoted message said:

>
> George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
> which is the culprit in all of these diseases.

Milk is not the "culprit" in any of the diseases that George attributes
to
it. Though it is "denatured" in the sense that its characteristics have
been
changed somewhat by pasteurization and homogenization, milk is not
denatured
in the chemical sense of the word. "Denatured" is not an appropriate
pejorative word.

UHT denatures the milk. With every perjorative inflection that that
implies.

TC

de·na·ture (d-nchr)
tr.v. de·na·tured, de·na·tur·ing, de·na·tures

To change the nature or natural qualities of.

Biochemistry
To cause the tertiary structure of (a protein) to unfold, as with heat,
alkali, or acid, so that some of its original properties, especially
its biological activity, are diminished or eliminated.

TC

Yes, UHT pasteurized milk is changed more than the more common shelf milk.
So what? It is still a good food. I think the flavor is off a little for
drinking, but as an ingredient in baking or other cooking it is fine. Even
if the proteins are unwound, all the nutritious amino acids are still there.

None of the processing done to milk changes the fact that it is a wholesome
food.

We have to agree to disagree. Processed milk from the supermarket is no
longer a wholesome food. I don't think it is even a food anymore.

TC

El dumbass Rich said:

Even

if the proteins are unwound, all the >nutritious amino acids are still
there.

You have no concept of digestive chemistry and, more importantly,
enzyme chemistry do you?

Unwinding of the amino acids makes them I N D I G E S T I B L E to a
human. The amino acids are no longer nutritional, even if they may
still be amino acids and not some deranged or decomposed substitute.

DrC PhD

Just saw this. Excuse me for jumping in as I have not read the other
responses.
As long as you get *organic* milk, there should not be a problem unless you
are lactose intolerant. It doesn't have all the trash in it like anti
biotics, hormones, animal flesh and other [censored] they find in the cow's feed
in non-organic dairy farms.

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| Topic: cow's milk & disease
|
| If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
| (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles on
| cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
|
|

Topic: cow's milk & disease

Rich said:

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
(cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles on
cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.

"Rich" <[email hidden]> replied:

Quoted message said:

By the way, George, "cow's" milk is incorrect. Except for the miniscule
minority of milk drinkers who have their own family cow, nobody drinks

milk

Quoted message said:

from a singular cow. You should be referring to "cows'" milk.

cow's . . . cows' Get it? Just trying to help.

So it should be: cows' milk not cow's milk .

Topic: cow's milk & disease

Quoted message said:

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
(cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles on
cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.

TC said:

Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
shelf life measured in days.

The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on
the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.

George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
which is the culprit in all of these diseases.

If as the www.notmilk.com web site says that the heavy, thick
casein protein contained within cows' milk can NOT really be digested by
humans, does it really matter whether a human drinks: 1) raw cows' milk;
2) "organic" cow's milk; or 3) store purchased - pasteurized,
homogenized cows' milk ?

Topic: cow's milk & disease

Quoted message said:

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
(cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles on
cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.

"Rachel" <[email hidden]> replied:

Quoted message said:

As long as you get *organic* milk, there should not be a problem unless

you

Quoted message said:

are lactose intolerant. It doesn't have all the trash in it like anti
biotics, hormones, animal flesh and other [censored] they find in the cow's feed
in non-organic dairy farms.

In reference to cows' milk, the lactose intolerant issue is only
ONE of TWO health problems of drinking cows' milk. The second health
problem is that many humans can NOT digest the heavy, thick casein protein
contained within cows' milk.

So, in summary, the health problems with cows' milk is two-fold:
1) the lactose intolerant issue; and 2) the inability of many humans to
truly digest the casein protein in cows' milk.

That's balogny!You can find just about any nonsense on any subject you put
into a search engine.
I noticed years ago, that when I increased my milk intake, my skin looked
clearer, healthier, milker. I would often get comments on how lovely it was
and asked what I did. My comment? I try to drink 2-3 glasses of milk a day.
Look at the health statistics of some parts of India where the diet is good
and they consume milk and dairy but DO NOT eat beef. They don't have the
health problems Americans do.

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Topic: cow's milk & disease
|
| > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
| > (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles on
| > cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
|
| "TC" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
| > shelf life measured in days.
| >
| > The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
| > re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
| > shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on
| > the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.
| >
| > George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
| > which is the culprit in all of these diseases.
|
| If as the www.notmilk.com web site says that the heavy, thick
| casein protein contained within cows' milk can NOT really be digested by
| humans, does it really matter whether a human drinks: 1) raw cows' milk;
| 2) "organic" cow's milk; or 3) store purchased - pasteurized,
| homogenized cows' milk ?
|
|

I bet pure water would do much better for you skin than dairy would! Of
course I don't name change to agree with myself either so what would I know?

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That's balogny!You can find just about any nonsense on any subject you

put

Quoted message said:

into a search engine.
I noticed years ago, that when I increased my milk intake, my skin looked
clearer, healthier, milker. I would often get comments on how lovely it

was

Quoted message said:

and asked what I did. My comment? I try to drink 2-3 glasses of milk a

day.

Quoted message said:

Look at the health statistics of some parts of India where the diet is

good

Quoted message said:

and they consume milk and dairy but DO NOT eat beef. They don't have the
health problems Americans do.

"George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Topic: cow's milk & disease
|
| > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease or
| > (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles

on

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| > cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
|
| "TC" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
| > shelf life measured in days.
| >
| > The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
| > re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
| > shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and on
| > the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.
| >
| > George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
| > which is the culprit in all of these diseases.
|
| If as the www.notmilk.com web site says that the heavy, thick
| casein protein contained within cows' milk can NOT really be digested by
| humans, does it really matter whether a human drinks: 1) raw cows'

milk;

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| 2) "organic" cow's milk; or 3) store purchased - pasteurized,
| homogenized cows' milk ?
|
|

Name change? What are you talking about? I haven't changed my name to agree
with myself. My replies were to other people. And Nothing to you "pizza
girl".

With a name like "pizza girl", you'd think that you would be a dairy
consumer. Or maybe you didn't know what they make cheese outa.
Maybe you should change YOUR name, like to NUT girl.

Rachel

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|I bet pure water would do much better for you skin than dairy would! Of
| course I don't name change to agree with myself either so what would I
know?
|
| "Rae" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
| > That's balogny!You can find just about any nonsense on any subject you
| put
| > into a search engine.
| > I noticed years ago, that when I increased my milk intake, my skin
looked
| > clearer, healthier, milker. I would often get comments on how lovely it
| was
| > and asked what I did. My comment? I try to drink 2-3 glasses of milk a
| day.
| > Look at the health statistics of some parts of India where the diet is
| good
| > and they consume milk and dairy but DO NOT eat beef. They don't have the
| > health problems Americans do.
| >
| >
| > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| > news:[email hidden]...
| > | Topic: cow's milk & disease
| > |
| > | > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > | > If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease
or
| > | > (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for articles
| on
| > | > cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
| > |
| > | "TC" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > | > Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has a
| > | > shelf life measured in days.
| > | >
| > | > The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized, separated,
| > | > re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
| > | > shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment and
on
| > | > the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.
| > | >
| > | > George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell us
| > | > which is the culprit in all of these diseases.
| > |
| > | If as the www.notmilk.com web site says that the heavy,
thick
| > | casein protein contained within cows' milk can NOT really be digested
by
| > | humans, does it really matter whether a human drinks: 1) raw cows'
| milk;
| > | 2) "organic" cow's milk; or 3) store purchased - pasteurized,
| > | homogenized cows' milk ?
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

ROFLMFAO>

Well I guess you blew that one then....

"Rachel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Quoted message said:

Name change? What are you talking about? I haven't changed my name to

agree

Quoted message said:

with myself. My replies were to other people. And Nothing to you "pizza
girl".

With a name like "pizza girl", you'd think that you would be a dairy
consumer. Or maybe you didn't know what they make cheese outa.
Maybe you should change YOUR name, like to NUT girl.

Rachel

"Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1121539552.caa9078b3aafdbf01e35376843be8de2@teranews...
|I bet pure water would do much better for you skin than dairy would! Of
| course I don't name change to agree with myself either so what would I
know?
|
| "Rae" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
| > That's balogny!You can find just about any nonsense on any subject

you

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| put
| > into a search engine.
| > I noticed years ago, that when I increased my milk intake, my skin
looked
| > clearer, healthier, milker. I would often get comments on how lovely

it

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| was
| > and asked what I did. My comment? I try to drink 2-3 glasses of milk a
| day.
| > Look at the health statistics of some parts of India where the diet is
| good
| > and they consume milk and dairy but DO NOT eat beef. They don't have

the

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| > health problems Americans do.
| >
| >
| > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| > news:[email hidden]...
| > | Topic: cow's milk & disease
| > |
| > | > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > | > If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk & disease
or
| > | > (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for

articles

Quoted message said:

| on
| > | > cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
| > |
| > | "TC" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > | > Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and has

a

Quoted message said:

| > | > shelf life measured in days.
| > | >
| > | > The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized,

separated,

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| > | > re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
| > | > shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment

and

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on
| > | > the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.
| > | >
| > | > George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell

us

Quoted message said:

| > | > which is the culprit in all of these diseases.
| > |
| > | If as the www.notmilk.com web site says that the heavy,
thick
| > | casein protein contained within cows' milk can NOT really be

digested

Quoted message said:

by
| > | humans, does it really matter whether a human drinks: 1) raw cows'
| milk;
| > | 2) "organic" cow's milk; or 3) store purchased - pasteurized,
| > | homogenized cows' milk ?
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
|
|

What does ROFLMFAO mean?
just curious?

"Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:1122094936.e49eaf5f6871067931d572c5ad74fe70@teranews...
| ROFLMFAO>
|
| Well I guess you blew that one then....
|
| "Rachel" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| news:[email hidden]...
| > Name change? What are you talking about? I haven't changed my name to
| agree
| > with myself. My replies were to other people. And Nothing to you "pizza
| > girl".
| >
| > With a name like "pizza girl", you'd think that you would be a dairy
| > consumer. Or maybe you didn't know what they make cheese outa.
| > Maybe you should change YOUR name, like to NUT girl.
| >
| > Rachel
| >
| > "Pizza Girl." <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| > news:1121539552.caa9078b3aafdbf01e35376843be8de2@teranews...
| > |I bet pure water would do much better for you skin than dairy would! Of
| > | course I don't name change to agree with myself either so what would I
| > know?
| > |
| > | "Rae" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| > | news:[email hidden]...
| > | > That's balogny!You can find just about any nonsense on any subject
| you
| > | put
| > | > into a search engine.
| > | > I noticed years ago, that when I increased my milk intake, my skin
| > looked
| > | > clearer, healthier, milker. I would often get comments on how lovely
| it
| > | was
| > | > and asked what I did. My comment? I try to drink 2-3 glasses of milk
a
| > | day.
| > | > Look at the health statistics of some parts of India where the diet
is
| > | good
| > | > and they consume milk and dairy but DO NOT eat beef. They don't have
| the
| > | > health problems Americans do.
| > | >
| > | >
| > | > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
| > | > news:[email hidden]...
| > | > | Topic: cow's milk & disease
| > | > |
| > | > | > "George Lagergren" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > | > | > If one uses a search engine to key in these words: milk &
disease
| > or
| > | > | > (cow's milk) & disease, one gets some interesting hits for
| articles
| > | on
| > | > | > cow's milk and the possible relationship to various diseases.
| > | > |
| > | > | "TC" <[email hidden]> wrote:
| > | > | > Real milk comes from a cow and goes directly to the table and
has
| a
| > | > | > shelf life measured in days.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > The [censored] at the store has been pasteurized, homogenized,
| separated,
| > | > | > re-combined, denatured and has had additives added, and has a
| > | > | > shelf-life of up to 5 weeks. It sits in warehouses, in shipment
| and
| > on
| > | > | > the shelf for weeks before it is consumed.
| > | > | >
| > | > | > George, you should specify real milk or denatured milk, and tell
| us
| > | > | > which is the culprit in all of these diseases.
| > | > |
| > | > | If as the www.notmilk.com web site says that the heavy,
| > thick
| > | > | casein protein contained within cows' milk can NOT really be
| digested
| > by
| > | > | humans, does it really matter whether a human drinks: 1) raw
cows'
| > | milk;
| > | > | 2) "organic" cow's milk; or 3) store purchased - pasteurized,
| > | > | homogenized cows' milk ?
| > | > |
| > | > |
| > | >
| > | >
| > |
| > |
| >
| >
| >
|
|