Mileage

All his utter bullshitting aside, I found it beyond insane that any human would claim to make 600 Watts for an hour. In the 'information age' at 2-minute Google would have told tommy otherwise. WAY otherwise.

And an "almost 74" year old dude that keeps falling off his bike claiming to make 300 Watts for an hour...that rider would be setting age group Master's records everywhere he went.

I hope I never have to make up [censored] in my old(er) age to feel good about myself or try to impress random people on the internet. Lord knows I'm just a weekend warrior that scored a very few good results. Hell, when the Garmin told me I hit a new 40 Km personal best a few weeks ago I felt great.

That's enough for me. I'm not to going to pad the Watts, lower the elapsed time or boost the average speed. It is what it is and if that performance needle is moving in the right direction and I'm enjoying the ride...it's all good.

What? Your not going to pad the watts? Come on Bob, we should exaggerate our stuff to to make Forest Gump feel small.

Even though Zwift has the appearance of a video game, it's not, and had Forest Gump used the internet he could have found out that a lot of pros, if not all by now, use Zwift; if Forest Gump can read and understand what he's reading then he should take a gander at these sites:

https://www.cyclingweekly.com/news/latest-news/pros-use-indoor-training-boost-riding-370079
https://www.wareable.com/cycling/zwift-academy-cycling-professional-6299
https://blog.strava.com/how-zwift-saved-my-cycling-season-11071/
https://blog.strava.com/how-zwift-saved-my-cycling-season-11071/

And that's just one page of stuff, it goes on page after page on a Google search.

Froze said:

He wasn't a bombardier just a lowly E1 ordnance handler smoking that can sa while on duty; not sure when he supposedly went in, but the AF wasn't taking dropouts during some of the time he may have gone in.

Forest Gump, aka Tommy the Lunatic, has insecurities about himself, this lead him to try to preserve a certain image of himself, and he needs for approval from others. However, when you exaggerate or don’t represent yourself honestly, you are left feeling like a fraud, which further hurts your self-esteem, which he has never learned that. There’s a fine line between highlighting your attributes and completely inflating your abilities. All humans lie to a degree, like when your wife is bit overweight and you tell her she's not, but Forest Gump has a mental disorder that causes out-of-control lying which is known as pathological lying due to a narcissistic disorder, and this is evident with his need to embellish and exaggerate in an attempt to get people to look at him. However Forest Gump continues to lie when he knows you know he's lying, his lying is completely purposeless! The bad part is he has no regard for other peoples feelings about what might happen as a result of his lies; I hate to be any person in his world of acquaintances, and I say acquaintances because I doubt he can keep close friends. He needs help but he won't get it because a pathological type of person thinks their just fine and they don't have a problem, much like a lot of people with severe mental problems.

Again you show a level of ignorance that's pretty hard to understand. I was an E2 and that was pretty much the best you could do for a four year hitch. In our section we got ONE E1 promotion in four years and it was to the Chief's favorite. And he dropped out of the service the second his time was up. Sort of [censored] in the Chief's coffee.

You also show that you don't know what the jobs are in a Bomber command since I was in A&E and munitions are MMS. But continue to demonstrate that you can speak about anything you don't know about.

cyclintom said:

Again you show a level of ignorance that's pretty hard to understand. I was an E2 and that was pretty much the best you could do for a four year hitch. In our section we got ONE E1 promotion in four years and it was to the Chief's favorite. And he dropped out of the service the second his time was up. Sort of [censored] in the Chief's coffee.

You also show that you don't know what the jobs are in a Bomber command since I was in A&E and munitions are MMS. But continue to demonstrate that you can speak about anything you don't know about.

A&E? Funny, you never mentioned you were in the Aeromedical Evac transportation unit of the AF. Please show me in your posts where you did that, I may have missed it since there are so many threads here.

CAMPYBOB said:

A&E?

He means A&P.

But since he didn't do any of that either and it's all a lie...I'm not surprised with the acronym screw up.

I was wondering if he was referring to A&P and was waiting for some sort of lame response about what A&E was then we knew he would be lying to cover up. Either way we knew he was going to lie about it, I was check mating him on this one, there was no move he could make without getting captured. He's never been in the military, just wants to play one on TV.

There you go again. When you don't know anything you just tell everyone else that they don't know anything.

"It may take an hour or more for the team to assemble. During this time, regular patrol officers will have secured the perimeter of the scene and kept it under surveillance."

Because of an active shooter Sergeant Helus did the right thing in the wrong way. If he was a member of a SWAT team he had body armor. On most police forces today it is common to wear body armor all the time on active duty. ANY training in SWAT tactics is to NEVER outline yourself in a doorway and yet that is precisely what Sergeant Helus did. If that was the only entrance a SWAT team would never stand in a doorway. But you don't know how to shoot so I don't expect you to know the niceties of shooting people. This building not only had several side and back doors but many of the windows were broken out by escaping brave young men.

Tell me you SOB - what do you know about it? Another smear article on Trump by NBC?

A "light line"!!!! WTF?!?!?! This [censored] is too damned funny!

Liar tommy has fiber optic running right into his empty skull!

Holy cow! This lunatic is literally posting from a psych ward, somewhere!

rrrriiiiggggghhhhhttt! Whatevs.

This, from the moron that can't even get a virus cleaned up! LMAO!

Mr. 600 Watts and 3 Firewalls!!! With 8 identity thefts! This [censored] is rich, baby!

CAMPYBOB said:

rrrriiiiggggghhhhhttt! Whatevs.

This, from the moron that can't even get a virus cleaned up! LMAO!

Mr. 600 Watts and 3 Firewalls!!! With 8 identity thefts! This [censored] is rich, baby!

More technology from the man who has never held a real job.

tommy got da fiber optic "light cable"!

LIGHT CABLE?!?!?! Da Hell?

WTF is LIGHT CABLE???

And his AIDS infected 'puter is da fastest bestest 'puter of them all!

Another lie!

Lying at the speed of light! That's tommy, all right!

LMFAO!

tommy lies faster than he pedals!

Now I see you're mind is dissolving to the point where you don't even know which subject you're on. Give us some more initials. That appears to be all you can remember for more than a second or two.

Here's two: FU.

Enjoy them, liar boy.

So now you're crawling on the ground in frustration that you have now shown yourself to the entire world to be a nothing, devoid of anything the least special. Too bad that your entire life hinges on your being the center of attention on a bicycle forum. That is really sad.

You've NEVER posted 'actual figures'. Those come from a power meter and a complete data file. You have neither.

This idiocy of yours has long passed the point of insanity on your part! It's so far out of the realm of reality that I can't stop laughing at how dumb you really are about cycling, training and power. That thump on the noggin must have really fried you!

And you the lie some more by claiming it was a "mistake"!!! LMAO! One hellova "mistake" for a guy that invented everything but the light bub and lived by numbers! Huh?!?!

Than you claimed the average Joe vet could do EIGHT HUNDRED WATTS! For an hour!!!! LMFAO!

Nope, dumbass. That was no "mistake". That was YOU lying your ass off repeatedly.

Mistake? Nope. It wasn't a "mistake". It was a blatant lie and one that you repeated over and over. Then you tried to claim the average vet rider could make 800 Watts! LMFAO!

You had every chance to correct your "mistake" and yet you did NOT! You continued to argue, like the dumb [censored] that you are, that you made 600 Watts. For an entire HOUR!

Instead of admitting that you lied and had no idea how little power you actually make you continued to lie like the little [censored] that you are.

C'mon little [censored]. Let's see that power file that proves you can make 300 Watts for an hour! LMAO! Hell, post up your data file that proves your fat [censored] ass can make 300 Watts for 20 minutes!

Keep lying, moron. You NEVER, EVER made 600 Watts.

Not for the hour that you claimed and then repeatedly claimed.

Not for 20 minutes.

Not for 10 minutes.

Not for 5 minutes.

Not even for ONE stinking minute of your miserable, lying life.

And yet here you are.

STILL defending your lying ass.

With EVERY post you make you reinforce the fact that you lied to a man that came to the board seeking advice. You lied to everyone that read that thread. More importantly, you lied to yourself over and over after being exposed as a fake.

Man up, [censored] and apologize for your lying.

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Mileage is a distance measured in miles

Here it can be the time you spend on and exercycle hooked up to a video game. I'm not saying that it isn't exercise. Or that it isn't a means of maintaining your fitness through a winter. But I do not consider it riding a bicycle. And it most certainly isn't mileage.

Tom is right, it is just a video game, and since pros have starting using Zwift the entire professional peloton average speed has fallen by 10% and getting worse the more they use it. What to do, what to do

Some people would wonder why you would put an increase in peleton speed upon the use of a video game when there hasn't been one single year where the average speed in the Tour de France hasn't gone up. This is due to the directors shorting the courses slightly every year, improvement in the roads, improvement in the technology of the bikes and improvement in team tactics. But I suppose people could say that the reason it increased 10 years ago was because they were expecting to be able to train on a video game.

cyclintom said:

Some people would wonder why you would put an increase in peleton speed upon the use of a video game when there hasn't been one single year where the average speed in the Tour de France hasn't gone up. This is due to the directors shorting the courses slightly every year, improvement in the roads, improvement in the technology of the bikes and improvement in team tactics. But I suppose people could say that the reason it increased 10 years ago was because they were expecting to be able to train on a video game.

All kidding aside as was my comment above yours was. All pro teams have used some sort of training system when they weren't riding on the roads, from turbo trainers to rollers, and now Zwift. I showed you websites that even showed that pros are indeed using Zwift so I can't figure out why you think that an inside trainer is a useless training tool; you claim to have ridden, and raced, for many years but you don't think indoor trainers have their merits. Can indoor trainers replace outdoor riding altogether? Of course not, and no one ever said that it would or could, but that doesn't mean they don't have merit. One of the big things with an indoor trainer is interval training is much more effective than outdoors, there is no coasting, no variables in the terrain, no variables in wind direction or speed, you can do low cadence intervals or strength endurance intervals or very high cadence workouts, this makes doing intervals more difficult inside than outside and is more controlled and thus more tuned to specific needs and more accurate; it also helps with refining your pedal stroke. Zwift is a very important tool now in pro cycling.

I guess what I can't figure out is why you respond the way you do on any subject without first checking the internet to see if what you are saying is true, but you don't, so many times what you say is wrong, and everyone just laughs at you. I would think you would get really tired of knowing that people are laughing at you, but maybe you like that sort of abuse.

The reason speeds haven't gone up that much in the TDF is because cyclists today are not as tough as they were way back prior to the 60's. Prior to WW2 the riders rarely even rode on paved roads! Most of the roads were gravel and dirt, and some were cobblestones, plus the miles they put on per day were longer, and the race had more days to them, plus the climbs were steeper. And don't forget too that for many years they did that race on those conditions with 2 speed 40 pound bikes that used a flip flop hub to change gears, plus they had to carry several sets of tires around their body; and to add more to all of that they had fix their own flats (which I think riders fixing their own flats stopped in the late 70's). And in 1904 one of the riders was 50 years old! So when you look at the history of the TDF average speed: ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tour_de_France_records_and_statistics ) if you note that from 1903 to 1937 there wasn't much in the way of speed gains, so what happened in 1937 to 1950 that caused an upspike in the average speed? the derailleur was introduced so they now had more than 2 gears, plus they didn't have to stop to flip the rear wheel. So from around 1952 to about 1985 there was another spike in the average speed, why was that? they were riding on paved roads. From 1985 till now there has only been a 2 kilometer per hour gain, that's nothing considering bikes went from steel to aluminum to carbon fiber, bikes and rims got more aerodynamic, lighter and much more expensive, aerodynamics played into riding style and clothes/helmets, weight went down, technology on all fronts improved, and EPO came out, and after all of that there were hardly any noticable gains. So when you look at that stuff you begin to realize that the bike itself didn't make a lot of difference. But I think riders use to be stronger then they are today, not sure why that is.

Nuttli went from a fat nobody to a TT pro champ riding a trainer.