Mike Vandeman

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Micheal Artindale said:

I read your posts, and I think it is comical at best. And I will tell
you why:

Here's a clue -- he doesn't care! If it's comical, laugh and get over it.

Quoted message said:

1) you say you have a PHD, but you have yet to say in what. What is
it in, when did you receive it, and from where?

Check his website pinhead, it's all there.

Quoted message said:

2) you say that you are trying to create a people free park. What are
you doing to actually get it done?

He's not doing anything but trolling on usenet. Congrats, you just got
caught. Now spit the hook out and vow to never reply to him again.

Quoted message said:

3) you are what we "northerners" call "tree huggers". These people
object to logging, mining, trapping, hunting, fishing, and even
camping. You seam to agree with these people, so here are a few
questions for you to answer: (A) Do you object to logging? what do
you wipe your but off with? toilet paper is made from trees. (B) Do
you object to mining? where does the steel and other metals come from
that you use? (C) Do you object to drilling for oil? where does the
plastics that you use come from? (D) Do you wear deoderant, or any
colonge? well, surprise, those smells start off from animals.

Attempting to point out hypocrisy to MV is like trying to explain physics to
a cat. It just ain't worth the effort

Quoted message said:

You can say that you object to these things, but your life revolves
around those things. Recycleing is good, but unfortunatly, it is not
fool proof, we still need raw materials. What i am against is waste.
When i get something that is in soooo much packaging, it annoys me.

Maybe you should go out and enjoy nature.... it seams that you dont.

Micheal

(i doubt that you will respond honestly to this, you will only quote
things, not give you true answers)

Then why the [censored] would you ask the questions?

Just killfile him and be done with it. Go ride your bike and prove him
wrong.

Tom

"Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

I read your posts, and I think it is comical at best. And I will tell you
why:

1) you say you have a PHD, but you have yet to say in what. What is it in,
when did you receive it, and from where?

Um, not that I admire the guy but at least do a touch of homework before you
start blasting him. Now you'll just go and get labeled as "another lying
Mountain Biker"

from his own personal website that is referenced in every useless post he
puts on this newsgroup http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/mjv1.htm

I have a B.A. Magna cum Laude from the University of California at Berkeley
in Mathematics, With Special Distinction in Mathematics. As a Junior at U.C.
Berkeley, I ranked 37 1/2th out of 1300 college math students in the nation
in the annual mathematics contest sponsored by the Mathematical Association
of America. I have an M.A. in Mathematics (including study in Statistics)
from Harvard University. And my Ph.D. from the University of California at
Los Angeles is in Psychology, concentrating in Psychometrics. Psychometrics
is the science of the measurement of human behavior and traits, and forms
the scientific basis upon which transportation modeling and all other forms
of human measurement rest. I taught measurement theory -- specifically,
Reliability and Validity -- at California State University, San Francisco. I
have been a computer programmer since 1962. I taught computer science for
U.C. Berkeley Extension. In other words, I am an expert in mathematics,
statistics, scientific method, measurement science (including modeling), and
computer science.

Now of course, his PhD is in nothing related to trail damage so he's read
some books but could hardly be called an expert in the field at least as far
as education goes. He also totally ignores the scientific method in any of
his posts and fails to provide useful statistics or even credible sources.

Michael

On Sun, 30 May 2004 11:58:03 -0400, "Micheal Artindale"
<[email hidden]> wrote:

..I read your posts, and I think it is comical at best. And I will tell you
..why:
..
..1) you say you have a PHD, but you have yet to say in what. What is it in,
..when did you receive it, and from where?

UCLA Psychology '73

..2) you say that you are trying to create a people free park. What are you
..doing to actually get it done?

Advocating.

..3) you are what we "northerners" call "tree huggers". These people object to
..logging, mining, trapping, hunting, fishing, and even camping. You seam to
..agree with these people, so here are a few questions for you to answer: (A)
..Do you object to logging? what do you wipe your but off with? toilet paper
..is made from trees.

In some countries they use water. I am sure you use the same as me. You
hypocrites are all alike.

(B) Do you object to mining? where does the steel and
..other metals come from that you use?

I don't use much, so most of that mining is unnecessary. I am quite sure I use
less than you. Your hypocrisy is asking others to do things that you aren't
willing to do.

(C) Do you object to drilling for oil?
..where does the plastics that you use come from?

Ditto.

(D) Do you wear deoderant,
..or any colonge? well, surprise, those smells start off from animals.

Not what I use.

..You can say that you object to these things, but your life revolves around
..those things.

BS. You have no idea how I live.

Recycleing is good, but unfortunatly, it is not fool proof, we
..still need raw materials. What i am against is waste. When i get something
..that is in soooo much packaging, it annoys me.
..
..Maybe you should go out and enjoy nature.... it seams that you dont.

I do. You aren't very perceptive. Defensive, but not perceptive. And not very
honest, since you are doing exactly what you are complaining about.

..Micheal
..
..(i doubt that you will respond honestly to this, you will only quote things,
..not give you true answers)
..

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande

On Sun, 30 May 2004 22:21:45 GMT, "Michael Paul" <[email hidden]>
wrote:

..
.."Micheal Artindale" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
..news:[email hidden]...
..> I read your posts, and I think it is comical at best. And I will tell you
..> why:
..>
..> 1) you say you have a PHD, but you have yet to say in what. What is it in,
..> when did you receive it, and from where?
..
..Um, not that I admire the guy but at least do a touch of homework before you
..start blasting him. Now you'll just go and get labeled as "another lying
..Mountain Biker"
..
..from his own personal website that is referenced in every useless post he
..puts on this newsgroup http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande/mjv1.htm
..
..I have a B.A. Magna cum Laude from the University of California at Berkeley
..in Mathematics, With Special Distinction in Mathematics. As a Junior at U.C.
..Berkeley, I ranked 37 1/2th out of 1300 college math students in the nation
..in the annual mathematics contest sponsored by the Mathematical Association
..of America. I have an M.A. in Mathematics (including study in Statistics)
..from Harvard University. And my Ph.D. from the University of California at
..Los Angeles is in Psychology, concentrating in Psychometrics. Psychometrics
..is the science of the measurement of human behavior and traits, and forms
..the scientific basis upon which transportation modeling and all other forms
..of human measurement rest. I taught measurement theory -- specifically,
..Reliability and Validity -- at California State University, San Francisco. I
..have been a computer programmer since 1962. I taught computer science for
..U.C. Berkeley Extension. In other words, I am an expert in mathematics,
..statistics, scientific method, measurement science (including modeling), and
..computer science.
..
..Now of course, his PhD is in nothing related to trail damage so he's read
..some books but could hardly be called an expert in the field at least as far
..as education goes. He also totally ignores the scientific method in any of
..his posts and fails to provide useful statistics or even credible sources.
..

That's what we psychologists call "projection". I'm actually the ONLY person who
has posted any science in ths newsgroup.

..Michael
..

===
I am working on creating wildlife habitat that is off-limits to
humans ("pure habitat"😉. Want to help? (I spent the previous 8
years fighting auto dependence and road construction.)

http://home.pacbell.net/mjvande