mik carton mudflap

maxo said:

...I cut a 6
inch piece of milk jug, let the first three inches be 2mm smaller than the
width of the fender, then made the rest flare out very slightly around
+3mm on either side in a decorative fashion, then glued the top 2 inches
to the *inside* of the fender and let the effective bits stick out below.
I used liquid nails small projects goop FWIW.

I've done the same on all my bikes' fenders, but I attached it by
drilling a hole in the fender near the bottom. A 1/4" diameter screw
and a wingnut allow me to install and remove it quickly. Either screw
or nut should be nylon, to prevent rusting and seizing.

I prefer to have it removable because if it's low enough to _really_
help, it tends to drag when crossing sharp speed bumps, carrying down
stairs, etc.

Oh, and I find toe clip covers very helpful in the rain.

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maxo said:

I cut a 6 inch piece of milk jug, let the first three inches be 2mm
smaller than the width of the fender, then made the rest flare out very
slightly around +3mm on either side in a decorative fashion, then glued
the top 2 inches to the *inside* of the fender and let the effective bits
stick out below. I used liquid nails small projects goop FWIW.

I did something similar, but I attached the mudflap with quick rivets
rather than an adhesive. For lightweight projects like this, quick rivets
are great.
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maxo said:

Any of you that use fenders, do extend the front fender with this method
(or another)and give your toes a break.

Planet Bike's 'Freddy Fenders' come with real mudflaps built-in.

Sorry to be such a party pooper. Actually, I applaud your
ingenuity & creative gumption.

Keep yer powder dry,
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Tom Keats said:

In article <[email hidden]>,

maxo said:

Any of you that use fenders, do extend the front fender with this method
(or another)and give your toes a break.

Planet Bike's 'Freddy Fenders' come with real mudflaps built-in.

Sorry to be such a party pooper. Actually, I applaud your ingenuity &
creative gumption.

Keep yer powder dry,
Tom

The FF are nice, but I don't think the flaps are long enough. The quality
is brilliant though.

I prefer the Zefals because they're plastic covered aluminum and look more
classic on my vintage white frame, black fenders would be a bit much. The
mud flap being milky white looks quite factory custom on the silver flap
btw.

I think Freddies look very appropriate on modern city bikes, but not old
racers. Do they even make a narrow cross section version?

;D

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maxo said:

The FF are nice, but I don't think the flaps are long enough. The quality
is brilliant though.

I originally thought so too, but they've proven to at least
be adequate, if not more than.

Quoted message said:

I prefer the Zefals because they're plastic covered aluminum and look more
classic on my vintage white frame, black fenders would be a bit much.

That's a consideration, fer sher.

Quoted message said:

The
mud flap being milky white looks quite factory custom on the silver flap
btw.

There was a thread here awhile back about cutting out a section
of a water bottle with a team logo on it for a mudflap. A gold
logo with black outlines on a white background would be tres chic.

Quoted message said:

I think Freddies look very appropriate on modern city bikes, but not old
racers. Do they even make a narrow cross section version?

Heh. :-)

My old, black Sekine mixte with the 27x1-1/4s looks /damn good/
with the appropriately-sized Freddy Fenders (they accommodate
700c too). So, yes, they do make a narrow cross section version,
and they look good on old city bikes.

BTW, that antient Sekine is quite a remarkable li'l beastie.
It originally came with a Shimano experiment they called
'Front Freewheel System'. It's a derailer bike, but you
could shift gears at a standstill while backpedaling.
Splined 'Selecta' crank spindle; allen screws hold the
cranks on. I don't know much about the bike, but I date
it around 1970-73. It has the Sekine rhinestone embedded
in the head badge. Kewl ride. I'm on the lookout for a
wide-flanged, single-piece Suzue rear hub to match the
front one I built the front wheel on. It's an ongoing
project & labour of love.

The wide, black Freddies on my turquoise Norco mountain
touring bike look like afterthoughts. But they do the job.

cheers,
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Quoted message said:

...look more classic on my vintage white frame...

You got a new bike? Do tell.

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Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:48:42 GMT,
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Quoted message said:

I think Freddies look very appropriate on modern city bikes, but not old
racers. Do they even make a narrow cross section version?

In colours!
Hi-Vis Yellow, Titanium and Smoke. 45mm wide.

http://www.planetbike.com/fenders.html
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Zoot Katz said:

Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:48:42 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, maxo <[email hidden]>

Quoted message said:

I think Freddies look very appropriate on modern city bikes, but not old
racers. Do they even make a narrow cross section version?

In colours!
Hi-Vis Yellow, Titanium and Smoke. 45mm wide.

http://www.planetbike.com/fenders.html

very nice!

At some point I'm going to piece together a "Raleigh Sports" homage in the
modern fashion and might have to use the grey version of those. It'll be
based most likely on an 80s touring frame with 700/32 wheels/tires, and
with the classic bend bars and sprung leather seat. Hopefully I can locate
a nice dynohub at a fair price for the front or just go Shimano. Something
that yells "1950" at 50 meters, and has the same simplicity, but weighs
30lb instead of 50, and cruises at a faster clip.

😄

Tom Keats said:

Quoted message said:

I think Freddies look very appropriate on modern city bikes, but not old
racers. Do they even make a narrow cross section version?

Heh. :-)

My old, black Sekine mixte with the 27x1-1/4s looks /damn good/ with the
appropriately-sized Freddy Fenders (they accommodate 700c too). So, yes,
they do make a narrow cross section version, and they look good on old
city bikes.

BTW, that antient Sekine is quite a remarkable li'l beastie. It originally
came with a Shimano experiment they called 'Front Freewheel System'. It's
a derailer bike, but you could shift gears at a standstill while
backpedaling. Splined 'Selecta' crank spindle; allen screws hold the
cranks on. I don't know much about the bike, but I date it around 1970-73.
It has the Sekine rhinestone embedded in the head badge. Kewl ride. I'm
on the lookout for a wide-flanged, single-piece Suzue rear hub to match
the front one I built the front wheel on. It's an ongoing project &
labour of love.

Neato!

post some pictures and don't be a tease! :P

apparently they DO make a 35mm wide version according to the site, btw, is
that what you're using?

Zoot Katz said:

Sat, 18 Sep 2004 02:48:42 GMT,
<[email hidden]>, maxo

Quoted message said:

I think Freddies look very appropriate on modern city bikes, but not old
racers. Do they even make a narrow cross section version?

In colours!
Hi-Vis Yellow, Titanium and Smoke. 45mm wide.

http://www.planetbike.com/fenders.html

Har. The yellow would look great on my black road bike. *cackle*

-km

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the black rose said:

Har. The yellow would look great on my black road bike. *cackle*

-km

more like: "bzzzzz". 😄 :P

Didn't see the coloured ones in 35mm for road bike application though :/

Better yet, find a sexy set of NOS yellow Bluemels!

http://www.bikeville.com/morepages2/yellobluemels.html

maxo said:

the black rose said:

Har. The yellow would look great on my black road bike. *cackle*

-km

more like: "bzzzzz". 😄 :P

Hehe, I was actually thinking that.

Float like a butterfly, cycle like a bee... *snorfle*

Quoted message said:

Didn't see the coloured ones in 35mm for road bike application though :/

Mine's a sport road. It's got 25mm tires, will take larger, and will
take bigger fenders than your usual road bike.

Quoted message said:

Better yet, find a sexy set of NOS yellow Bluemels!

http://www.bikeville.com/morepages2/yellobluemels.html

Those are cute too.

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In article <[email hidden]>,

maxo said:

Quoted message said:

BTW, that antient Sekine is quite a remarkable li'l beastie. It originally
came with a Shimano experiment they called 'Front Freewheel System'. It's
a derailer bike, but you could shift gears at a standstill while
backpedaling. Splined 'Selecta' crank spindle; allen screws hold the
cranks on. I don't know much about the bike, but I date it around 1970-73.
It has the Sekine rhinestone embedded in the head badge. Kewl ride. I'm
on the lookout for a wide-flanged, single-piece Suzue rear hub to match
the front one I built the front wheel on. It's an ongoing project &
labour of love.

Neato!

post some pictures and don't be a tease! :P

One of these days when I get a camera, I will. The bike is
really better for looking at, than actually riding. I don't
recommend attempting to stand while pedaling on a mixte.

But the mixte configuration sure looks sleek, energized and
potential; kinda like a drawn Welsh yew longbow. The original
paint is a sort of a cherry black, or black with garnet undertones,
but unfortunately the paint is beginning to suffer.

Quoted message said:

apparently they DO make a 35mm wide version according to the site, btw, is
that what you're using?

A quick check with my tape measure looks more like 45mm.

cheers,
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Tom Keats said:

don't recommend attempting to
stand while pedaling on a mixte.

I'm a big fan of mixte frames, since I'ved owned a couple three-speed
versions as my "bar bikes" LOL.

I do love the two top tubes, very architectural and reminds me of the
lovely Pederson frames.

I've never ridden a mixte hard, or as hard as I needed to to go three
blocks and grab some celery and a sixpack--but it would seem that the rear
triangle would be rather happy and stiff, because of the extra tubes,
therefore good for standing, no? With the term mixte, I mean instead of a
top tube you have two smaller tubes that go from the head tube all the way
down to the rear dropouts. I'm assuming that's what you're referring to
also, since they were rather popular during the early bike boom years.

I've never heard the "don't stand on a mixte" recommendation before, and
I'm curious what your reason is. Is it a geometry thing?

😄

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maxo said:

I've never ridden a mixte hard, or as hard as I needed to to go three
blocks and grab some celery and a sixpack--but it would seem that the rear
triangle would be rather happy and stiff, because of the extra tubes,
therefore good for standing, no?

Maybe the rear triangle is extra stiff, but the BB (at least on mine)
sure isn't. It makes all sorts of scary, complaining creaks & groans,
and flexes quite noticably if I ride it too hard. Besides, since
standing-pedaling involves some rocking, I find the lack of a 'normal'
diamond-frame top tube giving me feedback and some control as to how
much I'm rocking by bumping against my thighs, somewhat disconcerting.
I suspect standing-pedaling on a folding bike would have a similar feel
and effect.

Quoted message said:

With the term mixte, I mean instead of a
top tube you have two smaller tubes that go from the head tube all the way
down to the rear dropouts. I'm assuming that's what you're referring to
also

Yup. It /is/ quite a pretty config, with those dainty twin top tubes.
I find it makes carrying the bike around easy, too.

cheers again,
Tom

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<big snip>

Quoted message said:

There was a thread here awhile back about cutting out a section
of a water bottle with a team logo on it for a mudflap. A gold
logo with black outlines on a white background would be tres chic.

That's what I did and it works well. It seems to be common amongst the
non-rain-allergic riders up here in Seattle.

- Lance

Mon, 20 Sep 2004 23:05:08 -0700, <[email hidden]>,

Lance Delo said:

<big snip>

Quoted message said:

There was a thread here awhile back about cutting out a section
of a water bottle with a team logo on it for a mudflap. A gold
logo with black outlines on a white background would be tres chic.

That's what I did and it works well. It seems to be common amongst the
non-rain-allergic riders up here in Seattle.

You mean _down_ there in Seattle.

You responded to Tom Keats' post.
Tom's in the People's Republic of East Vancouver, British Columbia.

I cut mine out of silver plastic motor oil bottles to match my bike.
They blend well with chromoplast ESGE or Zefal fenders.
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Zoot Katz said:

I cut mine out of silver plastic motor oil bottles to match my bike.
They blend well with chromoplast ESGE or Zefal fenders.

Excellent idea!

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