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  1. just got back from doing a circle from Huntly to inverness, bettyhill,
    jog, inverness, back.

    Weather was great, except for 1/2 a day of rain at thurso to jog.Wind
    strangely managed to turn with us so that we had only 1/2 a day without
    headwind.

    I will not be doing inverness to bettyhill into the wind with tent etc
    again in one go.

    The midges are out.They have always liked to bite me and I react well.
    i wore 100%deet on exposed parts and hair from set off to shower and had
    no problem with bites until one evening in bettyhill I had a shower then
    went to the top of the rise behind the pub to get a phone signal with
    no deet on. In 15mins I got 30plus bites all over my scalp. They seemed
    especially to like the hair and only a few bit my face and neck.

    Another man i met later in helmsdale had hundreds if little bites all
    over especially his legs.His repellant was french and the contents not
    available for conversation.

    I was really pleased with the 100% deet.I had no problem with it melting
    my clothes or gear, although I may have been a little bit careful about
    avoiding obvious contact with plastics.Pertex sleeping bag, Event fabric
    anorac, nylon socks and tights seem ok.

    By the way, if a highlander tells you the road ahead is fairly flat he
    means it's not like cockbridge to tomintoul, but it all seemed pretty
    hilly to me, and I normally ride in the white peak .

    The A9 jog to inverness is fine to ride, at least at this time of
    year.Some parts require reasonably careful driving , but Compared with
    Derbyshire roads I would say it is not bad.
    The drivers were outstandingly careful around cyclists up there.In 6
    days we had only one driver who buzzed us at speed peeping and waving at
    us to get out of his way and into the gutter.He was so exceptional I
    wondered whether he might be english.

    TerryJ

  2. On Sun, 08 Jun 2008 14:18:36 +0100, TerryJ <[email hidden]>
    said in <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Weather was great, except for 1/2 a day of rain at thurso to jog.Wind
    strangely managed to turn with us so that we had only 1/2 a day without
    headwind.

    Strange? What's strange about an againsterly wind? I thought that
    was normal.

    Guy
    --
    May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting.
    http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk

    85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound


  3. Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    strangely managed to turn with us so that we had only 1/2 a day without
    headwind.

    Strange? What's strange about an againsterly wind? I thought that
    was normal.

    Guy


    true, i do take some persuading that the wind is for us.
    When i checked the heights of the hills we climbed i found my estimates
    to be 30%exaggerated most of the time.Having a tent and bag on the back
    does that to you.

  4. TerryJ said:

    just got back from doing a circle from Huntly to inverness, bettyhill,
    jog, inverness, back.

    See http://www.personal.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/tourdunord.htm for our
    foray into that neck of the woods 4 years ago.

    Quoted message said:

    Weather was great, except for 1/2 a day of rain at thurso to jog.Wind
    strangely managed to turn with us so that we had only 1/2 a day without
    headwind.

    We found we had the remarkable re-orienting headwind too, though at
    least the really sharp turns (such as onto the Black Isle) meant we had
    it behind us some of the time. It was windy enough that midges were a
    complete non-issue from start to finish.

    Quoted message said:

    I will not be doing inverness to bettyhill into the wind with tent etc
    again in one go.

    Fair enough, we did from Nairn to Tongue in one and that was a good
    distance (about 60 miles IIRC) without wanting to string it out any further.

    Quoted message said:

    The midges are out.They have always liked to bite me and I react well.
    i wore 100%deet on exposed parts and hair from set off to shower and had
    no problem with bites until one evening in bettyhill I had a shower then
    went to the top of the rise behind the pub to get a phone signal with
    no deet on. In 15mins I got 30plus bites all over my scalp. They seemed
    especially to like the hair and only a few bit my face and neck.

    A midge hood is Your Friend. Easily available in Scotland for about £6.
    Tracksters and long sleeve jerseys too, then you only need noxious
    chemicals on your hands.

    Quoted message said:

    I was really pleased with the 100% deet.I had no problem with it melting
    my clothes or gear, although I may have been a little bit careful about
    avoiding obvious contact with plastics.Pertex sleeping bag, Event fabric
    anorac, nylon socks and tights seem ok.

    Roos suggetss that contact lens wearers want to be very careful about
    washing hands between applying deet and emplacing/removing lenses.

    Pete.
    --
    Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer
    Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
    Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
    net [email hidden] http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/

  5. Peter Clinch said:
    Quoted message said:

    I will not be doing inverness to bettyhill into the wind with tent etc
    again in one go.

    Quoted message said:

    Fair enough, we did from Nairn to Tongue in one and that was a good
    distance (about 60 miles IIRC) without wanting to string it out any further.

    That was from Tain, and taking the scenic route past Ben Loyal rather thsn
    the more direct one to bettyhill. Which is indeed on top of a hill even
    though it is on the seaside...

    Roos

  6. Roos Eisma said:
    Peter Clinch said:
    Quoted message said:

    I will not be doing inverness to bettyhill into the wind with tent etc
    again in one go.

    Quoted message said:

    Fair enough, we did from Nairn to Tongue in one and that was a good
    distance (about 60 miles IIRC) without wanting to string it out any further.

    That was from Tain, and taking the scenic route past Ben Loyal rather thsn
    the more direct one to bettyhill. Which is indeed on top of a hill even
    though it is on the seaside...

    Roos


    Has anyone done the A9jog to inverness and found it unpleasant?

    The CTC advice leaflet still says 'avoid if at all possible' but we had
    no problem at all.Until Dornoch the traffic was very light and well
    behaved, most of the time there was a white line and side strip to use
    and when there wasn't room for that the traffic had no problem getting
    past after perhaps a small adjustment or hesitation.North of wick it was
    dead quiet.It was like a Derbyshire B-road early on a Sunday .South of
    that it was a bit busier but wide and no problem.
    I understand that Perth to Inverness uses the old road almost all the
    way and is fine also.
    There seemed to be a stream of cyclists using the A9.It is a shorter
    route,probably less climbing and pretty in its way .The opportunities to
    bandb are more frequent.

    The reason I am particularly interested is that the owners of a very
    good guest house(Kindale) in Helmsdale were rather amazed that the ctc
    is still giving this advice and I agree, but then I haven't cycled it in
    july /august.
    The ctc could make some advertising revenue, add to the approved
    accommodation list and persuade some bandb's to get a bike shed.Should
    this be proposed?

    TerryJ

  7. Quoting TerryJ <[email hidden]>:

    Quoted message said:

    Has anyone done the A9jog to inverness and found it unpleasant?

    We did Inverness->JOG, but we used NCN#1 between Inverness and Tore (a mix
    of country roads and wee-smelling underpasses, say my notes) and had
    accomodation in Dingwall, so we only really used the A9 from where the
    A682 joins it at Arduillie. If I were doing it again today I think I'd
    plan on the Cromarty ferry if possible. I remember it as being fine from
    there on up, though.
    --
    David Damerell <[email hidden]> Kill the tomato!
    Today is First Chedday, June - a public holiday.

  8. On 9 Jun, 18:38, David Damerell <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    We did Inverness->JOG, but we used NCN#1 between Inverness and Tore (a mix
    of country roads and wee-smelling underpasses, say my notes) and had
    accomodation in Dingwall, so we only really used the A9 from where the
    A682 joins it at Arduillie.

    So did we use the paths and side raods to and from tore roundabout.
    Beyond that we just used the A9 until ncn1 branches off on the way up,
    but all the way back down.
    TerryJ

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