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  1. Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

  2. On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:03:05 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    Yes, when I microwaved our dog, the little [censored] blew into pieces.
    It was pretty funny, my cats laughed too.

  3. <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:03:05 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    Yes, when I microwaved our dog, the little [censored] blew into pieces.
    It was pretty funny, my cats laughed too.

    A real dog would not fit in a normal microwave.

  4. ATP* said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:03:05 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    Yes, when I microwaved our dog, the little [censored] blew into pieces.
    It was pretty funny, my cats laughed too.

    A real dog would not fit in a normal microwave.

    John has an industrial walk in microwave to help with body disposal :P

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  5. In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    No.

    HTH?
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    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  6. In article <[email hidden]>,

    ATP* said:

    <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 18:03:05 +1000, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    Yes, when I microwaved our dog, the little [censored] blew into pieces.
    It was pretty funny, my cats laughed too.

    A real dog would not fit in a normal microwave.

    Depends on the size of the dog.....
    --
    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  7. ATP* said:

    A real dog would not fit in a normal microwave.

    Although I agree with you in principle (real dogs are larger than a
    breadbox) I'd have to argue that MY dog (a chowhound Labrador) would
    figure out how to get in there if there was food left in it.

    Valient attempt, by the way, to wrest the thread away from the trolls
    and back on-topic.

    Dally

  8. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    David said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    No.

    HTH?

    They were banned in Rusia in 1976 for these reasons
    After the World War II, the Russians also experimented with microwave ovens.
    From 1957 up to recently, their research has been carried out mainly at the
    Institute of Radio Technology at Klinsk, Byelorussia. According to US
    researcher William Kopp, who gathered much of the results of Russian and
    German research - and was apparently prosecuted for doing so (J. Nat. Sci,
    1998; 1:42-3) - the following effects were observed by Russian forensic
    teams:

    1. Heating prepared meats in a microwave sufficiently for human consumption
    created:
    * d-Nitrosodiethanolamine (a well-known cancer-causing agent)
    * Destabilization of active protein biomolecular compounds
    * Creation of a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere
    * Creation of cancer-causing agents within protein-hydrosylate compounds in
    milk and cereal grains;
    2. Microwave emissions also caused alteration in the catabolic (breakdown)
    behavior of glucoside - and galactoside - elements within frozen fruits when
    thawed in this way;
    3. Microwaves altered catabolic behavior of plant-alkaloids when raw, cooked
    or frozen vegetables were exposed for even very short periods;
    4. Cancer-causing free radicals were formed within certain trace-mineral
    molecular formations in plant substances, especially in raw root vegetables;
    5. Ingestion of micro-waved foods caused a higher percentage of cancerous
    cells in blood;
    6. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions occurred
    in the lymphatic system, causing degeneration of the immune system=s
    capacity to protect itself against cancerous growth;
    7. The unstable catabolism of micro-waved foods altered their elemental food
    substances, leading to disorders in the digestive system;
    8. Those ingesting micro-waved foods showed a statistically higher incidence
    of stomach and intestinal cancers, plus a general degeneration of peripheral
    cellular tissues with a gradual breakdown of digestive and excretory system
    function;
    9. Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritional value
    of all foods studied, particularly:
    * A decrease in the bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C,
    vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotrophics
    * Destruction of the nutritional value of nucleoproteins in meats
    * Lowering of the metabolic activity of alkaloids, glucosides, galactosides
    and nitrilosides (all basic plant substances in fruits and vegetables)
    * Marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.

    As a result microwave ovens were banned in Russia in 1976; the ban was
    lifted after Perestroika.

    HTH

  9. ATP* said:

    A real dog would not fit in a normal microwave.

    It's the old kind, as big as a house.

  10. On Sun, 19 Feb 2006 21:10:59 +0800, spodosaurus

    spodosaurus@_yahoo_.com said:

    John has an industrial walk in microwave to help with body disposal :P

    Just what I told him, except for the "body parts" stuff. I thought
    that was OUR lil' secret? Do it again, and I won't let you hide the
    pieces, or come over for anymore of my special recipe stew.

  11. "Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    ATP* said:

    A real dog would not fit in a normal microwave.

    Although I agree with you in principle (real dogs are larger than a
    breadbox) I'd have to argue that MY dog (a chowhound Labrador) would
    figure out how to get in there if there was food left in it.

    Valient attempt, by the way, to wrest the thread away from the trolls and
    back on-topic.

    Valient?
    And that was a valiant attempt to be amusing

  12. Quoted message said:

    They were banned in Rusia in 1976 for these reasons
    After the World War II, the Russians also experimented with microwave ovens.
    From 1957 up to recently, their research has been carried out mainly at the
    Institute of Radio Technology at Klinsk, Byelorussia. According to US
    researcher William Kopp, who gathered much of the results of Russian and
    German research - and was apparently prosecuted for doing so (J. Nat. Sci,
    1998; 1:42-3) - the following effects were observed by Russian forensic
    teams:

    1. Heating prepared meats in a microwave sufficiently for human consumption
    created:
    * d-Nitrosodiethanolamine (a well-known cancer-causing agent)
    * Destabilization of active protein biomolecular compounds
    * Creation of a binding effect to radioactivity in the atmosphere
    * Creation of cancer-causing agents within protein-hydrosylate compounds in
    milk and cereal grains;
    2. Microwave emissions also caused alteration in the catabolic (breakdown)
    behavior of glucoside - and galactoside - elements within frozen fruits when
    thawed in this way;
    3. Microwaves altered catabolic behavior of plant-alkaloids when raw, cooked
    or frozen vegetables were exposed for even very short periods;
    4. Cancer-causing free radicals were formed within certain trace-mineral
    molecular formations in plant substances, especially in raw root vegetables;
    5. Ingestion of micro-waved foods caused a higher percentage of cancerous
    cells in blood;
    6. Due to chemical alterations within food substances, malfunctions occurred
    in the lymphatic system, causing degeneration of the immune system=s
    capacity to protect itself against cancerous growth;
    7. The unstable catabolism of micro-waved foods altered their elemental food
    substances, leading to disorders in the digestive system;
    8. Those ingesting micro-waved foods showed a statistically higher incidence
    of stomach and intestinal cancers, plus a general degeneration of peripheral
    cellular tissues with a gradual breakdown of digestive and excretory system
    function;
    9. Microwave exposure caused significant decreases in the nutritional value
    of all foods studied, particularly:
    * A decrease in the bioavailability of B-complex vitamins, vitamin C,
    vitamin E, essential minerals and lipotrophics
    * Destruction of the nutritional value of nucleoproteins in meats
    * Lowering of the metabolic activity of alkaloids, glucosides, galactosides
    and nitrilosides (all basic plant substances in fruits and vegetables)
    * Marked acceleration of structural disintegration in all foods.

    As a result microwave ovens were banned in Russia in 1976; the ban was
    lifted after Perestroika.

    HTH

    Sounds good to me! Anyone selling one cheap?

  13. In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Wilson said:

    "Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    ATP* said:

    A real dog would not fit in a normal microwave.

    Although I agree with you in principle (real dogs are larger than a
    breadbox) I'd have to argue that MY dog (a chowhound Labrador) would
    figure out how to get in there if there was food left in it.

    Valient attempt, by the way, to wrest the thread away from the trolls and
    back on-topic.

    Valient?
    And that was a valiant attempt to be amusing

    I can't help but wonder how much she feeds her dog?

    Forgive me Dalli, but it's not uncommon for those obsessed with weight
    loss to also feed dogs on a schedule.

    My border collie is free fed. She has kibbles available 24/7 and we make
    an effort to keep her bowl full.
    I have a fully fenced yard with a hotwire around the border so she has a
    lot of free running space. She is a VERY active dog.

    We have trouble keeping weight on her and supplement her with canned
    food in the evenings......

    Your dog might not be so food oriented if it was always available?
    --
    Peace, Om.

    "My mother never saw the irony in calling me a son-of-a-[censored]." -Jack Nicholson

  14. "OmManiPadmeOmelet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    John Wilson said:

    "Dally" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    ATP* wrote:

    > A real dog would not fit in a normal microwave.

    Although I agree with you in principle (real dogs are larger than a
    breadbox) I'd have to argue that MY dog (a chowhound Labrador) would
    figure out how to get in there if there was food left in it.

    Valient attempt, by the way, to wrest the thread away from the trolls
    and
    back on-topic.

    Valient?
    And that was a valiant attempt to be amusing

    I can't help but wonder how much she feeds her dog?

    Forgive me Dalli, but it's not uncommon for those obsessed with weight
    loss to also feed dogs on a schedule.

    My border collie is free fed. She has kibbles available 24/7 and we make
    an effort to keep her bowl full.
    I have a fully fenced yard with a hotwire around the border so she has a
    lot of free running space. She is a VERY active dog.

    We have trouble keeping weight on her and supplement her with canned
    food in the evenings......

    Your dog might not be so food oriented if it was always available?

    Maybe the dogs mother is also a whacko which can't help her doggie diet
    much.

    I'll take this opportunity to thank all those who have confributed to this
    thread. It's been great!

  15. David said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    When you read up on electromagnetic fields (cell phones, overhead
    wires, waterbed heaters, microwaves) you read everything from the
    bizarre to the common 'we dont really know' of how/if the human body is
    affected by these. It does seem however that many small studies against
    such products gets crushed or gagged and you dont ever hear anything on
    the topic again. Always makes me wonder if there is more to it than
    'they' let you know. 90% of todays homes have a microwave - would we
    all throw them out if they told us they were bad for us? Probably not,
    but it would make me think twice about using it for more than reheating
    a cup of coffee.
    Interesting but not a science journal:
    http://www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards.htm

    joanne

  16. "joanne" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:


    David said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    When you read up on electromagnetic fields (cell phones, overhead
    wires, waterbed heaters, microwaves) you read everything from the
    bizarre to the common 'we dont really know' of how/if the human body is
    affected by these. It does seem however that many small studies against
    such products gets crushed or gagged and you dont ever hear anything on
    the topic again. Always makes me wonder if there is more to it than
    'they' let you know. 90% of todays homes have a microwave - would we
    all throw them out if they told us they were bad for us? Probably not,
    but it would make me think twice about using it for more than reheating
    a cup of coffee.
    Interesting but not a science journal:
    http://www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards.htm

    Thanks - Mercola's article is interesting, - even though he is trying to
    sell an alternative product this does buttress the case against microwaves.
    ..

  17. joanne said:


    David said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    When you read up on electromagnetic fields (cell phones, overhead
    wires, waterbed heaters, microwaves) you read everything from the
    bizarre to the common 'we dont really know' of how/if the human body is
    affected by these. It does seem however that many small studies against
    such products gets crushed or gagged and you dont ever hear anything on
    the topic again. Always makes me wonder if there is more to it than
    'they' let you know. 90% of todays homes have a microwave - would we
    all throw them out if they told us they were bad for us? Probably not,
    but it would make me think twice about using it for more than reheating
    a cup of coffee.
    Interesting but not a science journal:
    http://www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards.htm

    No, it's not a scientific journal. Mercola is a loon.

  18. OmManiPadmeOmelet said:

    Forgive me Dalli, but it's not uncommon for those obsessed with
    weight loss to also feed dogs on a schedule.

    I'm not obsessed with weight loss. My previous cat was fed on the
    schedule and lived for 25 years. It's called intermittent fasting. I
    don't think she was unhappy, and she was definitely very happy around
    the feeding time.

  19. JMW said:

    "joanne" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Interesting but not a science journal:
    http://www.mercola.com/article/microwave/hazards.htm

    No, it's not a scientific journal. Mercola is a loon.

    http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.bodybuilding/msg/518b45555cd4113a?hl=en&

    Ellis

  20. "David" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Does anyone have health concerns from using microwaves?

    Not I, but someone with a pace maker?

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