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  1. Michele I think you need to have a look at Sinbad's [censored]
    detector, because you often default to using emotive terms
    to dismiss a point of view you disagree with.

    Michele has used such language as -

    * "trying to stop free access to nutritional
    supplements" nonsense.

    * - "everything's a conspiracy" [censored],

    Michele thinks words like "tripe" are objective terms.

    Michele: It's an objective term, along with "garbage",
    "nonsense", & "drivel". Your ranting about "conspiracies",
    "cartels", & "suppression" (OH MY!) would be emotive.
    Especially when you don't understand what you're trying to
    talk about, as you continue to show.

    ---------------------------------
    I would like you to have a look at this webpage and study
    its contents. Here is the emotive language excerpt.

    think.i12.comfallacies.html

    Prejudicial Language Definition: Loaded or EMOTIVE TERMS are
    used to attach value or moral goodness to believing the
    proposition.

    Examples: Right thinking Canadians will agree with me that
    we should have another free vote on capital punishment. A
    reasonable person would agree that our income statement is
    too low. Senator Turner claims that the new tax rate will
    reduce the deficit. (Here, the use of "claims" implies that
    what Turner says is false.) The proposal is likely to be
    resisted by the bureaucrats on Parliament Hill. (Compare
    this to: The proposal is likely to be rejected by officials
    on Parliament Hill.) Proof: Identify the prejudicial terms
    used (eg. "Right thinking Canadians" or "A reasonable
    person"😉. Show that disagreeing with the conclusion does not
    make a person "wrong thinking" or "unreasonable".

    Carole austarmetro.com.auconspiracy.htm

  2. "Carole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    Michele I think you need to have a look at Sinbad's
    [censored] detector, because you often default to
    using emotive terms to dismiss a point of view you
    disagree with.

    Holy [censored] -- half wit Carole, who attributes everything she
    doesn't understand (& that's a LOT) to "conspiracies",
    "cartels", & "suppression" telling someone else about
    emotive language -- LOL!

    Quoted message said:


    Michele has used such language as -

    * "trying to stop free access to nutritional supplements"
    nonsense.

    Sure have. The idea of some conspiracy trying to stop free
    access to nutritional supplements IS nonsense. Especially
    when those Carole thinks are doing so are making money
    through the PROMOTION of nutritional supplements & whatever
    other products consumers will part with a buck for.

    Quoted message said:

    * - "everything's a conspiracy" [censored],

    Carole attributes every conventional idea presented as a
    conspiracy. Pure & utter [censored], unless the word "idiocy"
    suits her better. Carole's paranoia WRT anybody making money
    (unless it's someone peddling alt. remedies, in which case
    money making is apparently acceptable in her book) is beyond
    common sense. There simply aren't that many conspiratorial
    plots afoot in the world! Her simpleton ideas -- like some
    sinister plot to keep the people of the world sick so
    they'll be "under control" (working like a charm in the
    Middle East, eh?) -- "suppression" of nutritional
    information which can easily be found in every library, on
    countless websites, & on infommercials appearing on network,
    cable & satellite TV (quite a "suppression" goin' on
    there...) -- & moaning on her soapbox that people who've
    done well for themselves monetarily have obviously done so
    at the expense of those who haven't (as if distribution of
    tenacity, sacrifice, intelligence, & plain old luck was
    always "fair"😉 are the epitome of emotive language & ideas.
    To refer to them as "twaddle", "tripe", "drivel", & "[censored]"
    is certainly more appropriate than Carole's repeated use of
    her litany of words she doesn't actually comprehend -- words
    like "brainwashed", "sheep", "cartel" -- or her references
    to economics, when counting pocket change is her whole body
    of knowledge on the subject. My choice of words is entirely
    appropriate when Carole makes sweeping statements that she
    admits she "hasn't figured out yet".

    Quoted message said:


    Michele thinks words like "tripe" are objective terms.

    Michele: It's an objective term, along with "garbage",
    "nonsense", & "drivel". Your ranting about "conspiracies",
    "cartels", & "suppression" (OH MY!) would be emotive.

    Carole is now truly the dumbest person I've encountered in
    quite some time. Perhaps this moron has forgotten it is she
    who rants about conspiracies, cartels, & suppression & I've
    always responded that she's ranting about things that aren't
    found under every rock, in every cupboard.

    Quoted message said:

    Especially when you don't understand what you're
    trying to talk about, as you continue to show.

    This is the person who "hasn't figured it out yet". Holy
    moly, she's lost what little is left of her mind.....

    Quoted message said:


    ---------------------------------
    I would like you to have a look at this webpage and study
    its contents. Here is the emotive language excerpt.

    think.i12.comfallacies.html

    Prejudicial Language Definition: Loaded or EMOTIVE TERMS
    are used to attach value or moral goodness to believing
    the proposition.

    Examples: Right thinking Canadians will agree with me that
    we should have another free vote on capital punishment. A
    reasonable person would agree that our income statement is
    too low. Senator Turner claims that the new tax rate will
    reduce the deficit. (Here, the use of "claims" implies
    that what Turner says is false.) The proposal is likely to
    be resisted by the bureaucrats on Parliament Hill.
    (Compare this to: The proposal is likely to be rejected by
    officials on Parliament Hill.) Proof: Identify the
    prejudicial terms used (eg. "Right thinking Canadians" or
    "A reasonable person"😉. Show that disagreeing with the
    conclusion does not make a person "wrong thinking" or
    "unreasonable".

    Carole
    austarmetro.com.auconspiracy.htm

    If Carole truly doesn't see her use of paranoia & hyperbole
    WRT subjects which she knows little or nothing about (as she
    herself admits), she is a candidate for the aluminum foil
    helmet brigade.

    Carole: Try reading up on more than the latest "National
    World" headlines. Or just keep spewing your usual [censored].
    And it IS [censored] -- nothing emotive about that......<G

  3. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Michele's emotive terms
    From: "Carole" [email hidden]
    Date: 5/17/2004 9:14 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]

    Michele is like hawki, they enjoy [censored] and belittling.

    Best to ignore them.

    Jan

    Quoted message said:

    Michele I think you need to have a look at Sinbad's
    [censored] detector, because you often default to using
    emotive terms to dismiss a point of view you disagree with.

    Michele has used such language as -

    * "trying to stop free access to nutritional supplements"
    nonsense.

    * - "everything's a conspiracy" [censored],

    Michele thinks words like "tripe" are objective terms.

    Michele: It's an objective term, along with "garbage",
    "nonsense", & "drivel". Your ranting about "conspiracies",
    "cartels", & "suppression" (OH MY!) would be emotive.
    Especially when you don't understand what you're trying to
    talk about, as you continue to show.

    ---------------------------------
    I would like you to have a look at this webpage and study
    its contents. Here is the emotive language excerpt.

    think.i12.comfallacies.html

    Prejudicial Language Definition: Loaded or EMOTIVE TERMS
    are used to attach value or moral goodness to believing the
    proposition.

    Examples: Right thinking Canadians will agree with me that
    we should have another free vote on capital punishment. A
    reasonable person would agree that our income statement is
    too low. Senator Turner claims that the new tax rate will
    reduce the deficit. (Here, the use of "claims" implies that
    what Turner says is false.) The proposal is likely to be
    resisted by the bureaucrats on Parliament Hill. (Compare
    this to: The proposal is likely to be rejected by officials
    on Parliament Hill.) Proof: Identify the prejudicial terms
    used (eg. "Right thinking Canadians" or "A reasonable
    person"😉. Show that disagreeing with the conclusion does
    not make a person "wrong thinking" or "unreasonable".

    Carole austarmetro.com.auconspiracy.htm

  4. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Michele's emotive terms
    From: [email hidden] (Jan)
    Date: 5/17/2004 9:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    Michele is like hawki, they enjoy [censored] and belittling.

    and educating...as we are both nurses

    jealous??

    hawki.....

  5. [email hidden] (Jan) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Michele's emotive terms From: "Carole"
    [email hidden] Date: 5/17/2004 9:14 AM Pacific
    Standard Time Message-id: <[email hidden]

    Michele is like hawki, they enjoy [censored] and belittling.

    Best to ignore them.

    Jan

    So says the crone who couldn't ignore anyone if her life
    depended on it.....<G

  6. [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Michele's emotive terms From:
    [email hidden] (Jan) Date: 5/17/2004 9:02 PM Pacific
    Daylight Time Message-id: <20040518000237.04086.00001599@mb-
    m12.aol.com>

    Quoted message said:

    Michele is like hawki, they enjoy [censored] and
    belittling.

    and educating...as we are both nurses

    jealous??

    hawki.....

    Naaah, Jan's too busy pretending to "ignore" us. She
    schedules it in along with taking pills made by the pharm.
    companies she [censored] about & line dancing. 😉

  7. Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and educating...as we are both nurses

    jealous??

    hawki.....



    Why do you think that being a "nurse" means anything? It's a
    job. You memorize the answers, big deal. I have witnessed
    more harm done by nurses than by Alt. folks. Jealous??? I
    would think that you might be so shamed as to not admit
    that, but, surprize!

  8. "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >

    and educating...as we are both nurses

    jealous??

    hawki.....



    Why do you think that being a "nurse" means anything? It's
    a job. You memorize the answers, big deal. I have
    witnessed more harm done by nurses than by Alt. folks.
    Jealous??? I would think that you might be so shamed as to
    not admit that, but, surprize!

    I suspect this mdd and DrC are related.

    Making light of a nurses years of college education casts a
    dark shadow over you, mdd. You disrespectfully imply that
    'it's a job' equates to constructing burgers for McDonalds.

    You honest think nurses just 'memorize' answers.....like
    'what is the temperature' and then write it down on a chart,
    without analyzing it's significence ?

    Is it typical that health.alternative people have this
    rigid, extremist 'all or nothing' 'us vs them' attitude?

  9. [email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Michele, you really can waffle on without saying
    anything much.

    Instead of name calling why don't you look at some of the
    issues? You can call me all the names under the sun, but it
    doesn't change the fact that conspiracies exist.

    Do you think that calling me a "loon", "ratbag" or a "moron"
    will explain away all the conspiracies that are going on?
    Why don't you try thinking for a change - instead of
    dismissing ideas because they don't fit in with your
    preconceived ideas of what the world is all about?

    Carole austarmetro.com.auconspiracy.htm

  10. [email hidden] (Carole) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Michele, you really can waffle on without saying
    anything much.

    That would be you waffling, Carole. You don't address ANY of
    the points I've made WRT your own diametrically opposed
    POV's on every situation you've brought up that I've shown
    to be incorrect. You admit what I say is right, then turn
    around & say you still think it's wrong. Fact is, Carole,
    you don't seem to know what the hell you actually think. Not
    surprising in light of your ignorance of the topics being
    discussed.

    Quoted message said:


    Instead of name calling why don't you look at some of the
    issues? You can call me all the names under the sun, but
    it doesn't change the fact that conspiracies exist.

    You haven't proven that the myriad of conspiracies you
    fear exist anywhere else but in your mind. I've given
    plenty of evidence they don't. But in your zeal to believe
    the sky is falling, logic doesn't penetrate your Chicken
    Little existence, does it? Your inability to see the
    gaping holes in your claims doesn't mean they aren't there
    for all to see.

    Quoted message said:


    Do you think that calling me a "loon", "ratbag"

    Plainly lying now, eh sunshine? I've NEVER called you a
    "ratbag" -- it would be insulting to Peter B.

    Quoted message said:

    or a "moron" will explain away all the conspiracies that
    are going on?

    I've already pointed out many reasons why the conspiracies
    you claim exist don't, Carole. You've admitted what I've
    said is reasonable -- followed by your renewed insistence
    that I'm wrong. **Essentially you've said "You're right,
    but I still think you're wrong."** Is there ANY sense to
    that? Hardly.

    Quoted message said:

    Why don't you try thinking for a change - instead of
    dismissing ideas because they don't fit in with your
    preconceived ideas of what the world is all about?

    I can't help it that your thinking is so jumbled that you
    can't examine the claims you've put forth here & see the
    many contradictions in your arguments. You've demonstrated
    that you know very little about the world, health care, or
    even coherent thoughts. Feel free to believe in the sinister
    boogie men that inhabit your little world, Carole. Don't let
    common sense & logical thinking get in the way of the
    fearful little tales you don't know much about but blindly
    believe. You haven't up 'til now.

  11. "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >

    and educating...as we are both nurses

    jealous??

    hawki.....



    Why do you think that being a "nurse" means anything? It's
    a job. You memorize the answers, big deal. I have
    witnessed more harm done by nurses than by Alt. folks.
    Jealous??? I would think that you might be so shamed as to
    not admit that, but, surprize!

    This is true. I saw a recent Dr Phil show where he had his
    family on the show. (For anybody who doesn't know, Dr Phil
    is the psychologist who used to be on Oprah but now has his
    own show.) Anyway, Dr Phil's family have a heridary tendency
    to putting on weight. One of his sisters is a nurse, a
    diabetic, very overweight and very unhealthy. She was also a
    nurse and claimed she was a very good nurse - I think that
    is past tense as she looked too unhealthy to work. So there
    is no real relationship between being a nurse and
    understanding or applying good health principles.

    Carole austarmetro.com.auconspiracy.htm

  12. "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >

    and educating...as we are both nurses

    jealous??

    hawki.....



    Why do you think that being a "nurse" means anything? It's
    a job. You memorize the answers, big deal.

    If memorizing the answers were all there is to nursing, the
    job could be done by high-school dropouts with Palm Pilots.
    In reality, what a nurse does in the first three seconds
    after she walks into your hospital room took years of
    experience to learn to do well. You probably won't
    understand what I mean by that statement, but Hawki and
    Michelle will.

    Quoted message said:

    I have witnessed more harm done by nurses than by
    Alt. folks.

    What harm have you witnessed? What are you doing about it
    other than making the unsupported assertion on this
    newsgroup.

    --Rich

  13. Michele, your fine compassionate bedside manner must win you a lot of
    friends and admirers eh?
    "Michele" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Carole) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Michele, you really can waffle on without saying
    anything much.

    That would be you waffling, Carole. You don't address ANY
    of the points I've made WRT your own diametrically opposed
    POV's on every situation you've brought up that I've shown
    to be incorrect. You admit what I say is right, then turn
    around & say you still think it's wrong. Fact is, Carole,
    you don't seem to know what the hell you actually think.
    Not surprising in light of your ignorance of the topics
    being discussed.

    Quoted message said:


    Instead of name calling why don't you look at some of
    the issues? You can call me all the names under the sun,
    but it doesn't change the fact that conspiracies exist.

    You haven't proven that the myriad of conspiracies you
    fear exist anywhere else but in your mind. I've given
    plenty of evidence they don't. But in your zeal to believe
    the sky is falling, logic doesn't penetrate your Chicken
    Little existence, does it? Your inability to see the
    gaping holes in your claims doesn't mean they aren't there
    for all to see.

    Quoted message said:


    Do you think that calling me a "loon", "ratbag"

    Plainly lying now, eh sunshine? I've NEVER called you a
    "ratbag" -- it would be insulting to Peter B.

    Quoted message said:

    or a "moron" will explain away all the conspiracies that
    are going on?

    I've already pointed out many reasons why the conspiracies
    you claim exist don't, Carole. You've admitted what I've
    said is reasonable -- followed by your renewed insistence
    that I'm wrong. **Essentially you've said "You're right,
    but I still think you're wrong."** Is there ANY sense to
    that? Hardly.

    Quoted message said:

    Why don't you try thinking for a change - instead of
    dismissing ideas because they don't fit in with your
    preconceived ideas of what the world is all about?

    I can't help it that your thinking is so jumbled that you
    can't examine the claims you've put forth here & see the
    many contradictions in your arguments. You've demonstrated
    that you know very little about the world, health care, or
    even coherent thoughts. Feel free to believe in the
    sinister boogie men that inhabit your little world,
    Carole. Don't let common sense & logical thinking get in
    the way of the fearful little tales you don't know much
    about but blindly believe. You haven't up 'til now.

  14. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Carole said:

    "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    >
    > and educating...as we are both nurses
    >
    > jealous??
    >
    > hawki.....


    Why do you think that being a "nurse" means anything?
    It's a job. You memorize the answers, big deal. I have
    witnessed more harm done by nurses than by Alt. folks.
    Jealous??? I would think that you might be so shamed as
    to not admit that, but, surprize!

    This is true. I saw a recent Dr Phil show where he had his
    family on the show. (For anybody who doesn't know, Dr Phil
    is the psychologist who used to be on Oprah but now has his
    own show.) Anyway, Dr Phil's family have a heridary
    tendency to putting on weight. One of his sisters is a
    nurse, a diabetic, very overweight and very unhealthy. She
    was also a nurse and claimed she was a very good nurse - I
    think that is past tense as she looked too unhealthy to
    work. So there is no real relationship between being a
    nurse and understanding or applying good health principles.

    There is also no connection between most of what Carole
    writes and reality. Not that that stops her from posting.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

  15. "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in message


    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    > >
    >
    > and educating...as we are both nurses
    >
    > jealous??
    >
    >
    > hawki.....


    Why do you think that being a "nurse" means anything?
    It's a job. You memorize the answers, big deal.

    If memorizing the answers were all there is to nursing,
    the job could be done by high-school dropouts with Palm
    Pilots. In reality, what a nurse


    does

    Quoted message said:

    in the first three seconds after she walks into your
    hospital room took years of experience to learn to do
    well. You probably won't understand


    what

    Quoted message said:

    I mean by that statement, but Hawki and Michelle will.

    Quoted message said:

    I have witnessed more harm done by nurses than by Alt.
    folks.

    What harm have you witnessed? What are you doing about it
    other than


    making

    Quoted message said:

    the unsupported assertion on this newsgroup.

    --Rich


    I have posted some of the harm I witnessed, and some of
    which I have prevented. If you want to look at all the old
    posts, feel free.As for unsupported, um, you are only as
    "supported" , like me as anyone else on the net. This is NG
    landia you know.

  16. "David Wright" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article
    <[email hidden]>, Carole

    Quoted message said:

    "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    > [email hidden] (Hawki63) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...
    > >
    > > and educating...as we are both nurses
    > >
    > > jealous??
    > >
    > > hawki.....
    >
    Why do you think that being a "nurse" means anything?
    It's a job. You memorize the answers, big deal. I have
    witnessed more harm done by


    nurses

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    than by Alt. folks. Jealous??? I would think that you
    might be so shamed as to not admit that, but, surprize!

    This is true. I saw a recent Dr Phil show where he had
    his family on the show. (For anybody who doesn't know, Dr
    Phil is the psychologist who used to be on Oprah but now
    has his own show.) Anyway, Dr Phil's family have a
    heridary tendency to putting on weight. One of his
    sisters is a nurse, a diabetic, very overweight and very
    unhealthy. She was also a nurse and claimed she was a
    very good nurse - I think that is past tense as she
    looked too unhealthy to work. So there is no real
    relationship between being a nurse and understanding or
    applying good health principles.

    There is also no connection between most of what Carole
    writes and reality. Not that that stops her from posting.

    -- David Wright 🙂


    Man! dense! has science discovered you yet? You may be the
    most obtuse person on earth.

  17. "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Michele, your fine compassionate bedside manner must win
    you a lot of friends and admirers eh?

    This is not a bedside. And YOUR manners, Tools, sometimes
    fall short of gentility.

    --Rich

  18. I don't claim to be a nurse, massage therapist, doctor, etc etc etc.
    "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Michele, your fine compassionate bedside manner must win
    you a lot of friends and admirers eh?

    This is not a bedside. And YOUR manners, Tools, sometimes
    fall short of gentility.

    --Rich

  19. [email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Carole) wrote in message
    news:<[email hidden]>...

    Quoted message said:

    [email hidden] (Michele) wrote in message news-
    :<[email hidden]>...

    Michele, you really can waffle on without saying
    anything much.

    That would be you waffling, Carole. You don't address ANY
    of the points I've made WRT your own diametrically opposed
    POV's on every situation you've brought up that I've shown
    to be incorrect. You admit what I say is right, then turn
    around & say you still think it's wrong. Fact is, Carole,
    you don't seem to know what the hell you actually think.
    Not surprising in light of your ignorance of the topics
    being discussed.

    Quoted message said:


    Instead of name calling why don't you look at some of
    the issues? You can call me all the names under the sun,
    but it doesn't change the fact that conspiracies exist.

    You haven't proven that the myriad of conspiracies you
    fear exist anywhere else but in your mind. I've given
    plenty of evidence they don't. But in your zeal to believe
    the sky is falling, logic doesn't penetrate your Chicken
    Little existence, does it? Your inability to see the
    gaping holes in your claims doesn't mean they aren't there
    for all to see.

    Quoted message said:


    Do you think that calling me a "loon", "ratbag"

    Plainly lying now, eh sunshine? I've NEVER called you a
    "ratbag" -- it would be insulting to Peter B.

    Quoted message said:

    or a "moron" will explain away all the conspiracies that
    are going on?

    I've already pointed out many reasons why the conspiracies
    you claim exist don't, Carole. You've admitted what I've
    said is reasonable -- followed by your renewed insistence
    that I'm wrong. **Essentially you've said "You're right,
    but I still think you're wrong."** Is there ANY sense to
    that? Hardly.

    Quoted message said:

    Why don't you try thinking for a change - instead of
    dismissing ideas because they don't fit in with your
    preconceived ideas of what the world is all about?

    I can't help it that your thinking is so jumbled that you
    can't examine the claims you've put forth here & see the
    many contradictions in your arguments. You've demonstrated
    that you know very little about the world, health care, or
    even coherent thoughts. Feel free to believe in the
    sinister boogie men that inhabit your little world,
    Carole. Don't let common sense & logical thinking get in
    the way of the fearful little tales you don't know much
    about but blindly believe. You haven't up 'til now.

    What I said Michele, is that your reasoning is right UP TO A
    POINT. It explains basic everyday thinking but not what is
    going on behind the scenes. This is because you are mind
    controlled. You fall for believing everything is ok because
    the basic everyday things are functioning ok. You don't
    bother to look beyond the bleeding obvious and explain
    everything in terms of everyday logic like "I can still buy
    my food at the supermarket", "the weather reports are
    roughly true", "some people seem to have improved health by
    taking drugs", etc.

    Carole austarmetro.com.auconspiracy.htm

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    I don't claim to be a nurse, massage therapist, doctor,
    etc etc etc.

    That's good. You could claim to be a pee-drinking moron
    troll, though. Nobody would argue with you.

    -- David Wright :: alphabeta at prodigy.net These are my
    opinions only, but they're almost always correct. "If I
    have not seen as far as others, it is because giants were
    standing on my shoulders." (Hal Abelson, MIT)

    Quoted message said:

    "Rich Shewmaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:scmdnZlpMfa9rV3dRVn-
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    "mdd" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    Michele, your fine compassionate bedside manner must
    win you a lot of friends and admirers eh?

    This is not a bedside. And YOUR manners, Tools, sometimes
    fall short of gentility.

    --Rich


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