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I'd say the Gemcrest leather is the most comfortable of those three.
The nylon KH covers are really small on a Miyata base. The leather
cover has a considerably larger volume.

There is only one dogbone air pillow that I am aware of.

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When I ordered a Roach, I got a KH which appears to be inferior to the
ones I saw on other people's unicycles that actually said Roach.

Not only that, the one I received first absolutely would not fit on my
miyata base. I sent that one back a recieved a second one which barely
fit. I didn't want to sent that one back because by then, I just wanted
an airseat and I'd already been waiting over a month between shipping,
receiving, sending back, and receiving again.

I highly DON'T recommend the KH cover (which is what you get when you
order a Roach)

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*When I ordered a Roach, I got a KH which appears to be inferior to
the ones I saw on other people's unicycles that actually said Roach.

Not only that, the one I received first absolutely would not fit on my
miyata base. I sent that one back a recieved a second one which barely
fit. I didn't want to sent that one back because by then, I just
wanted an airseat and I'd already been waiting over a month between
shipping, receiving, sending back, and receiving again.

I highly DON'T recommend the KH cover (which is what you get when you
order a Roach) *

The KH cover is made by Roach. It rocks. I have it on my Coker. Fits
good and snug. Better than the old Roach covers that I have on my muni
and trials. The new drawstring on the new KH seat covers works better
than the older Roach seat covers (they basically slipped on and then you
laced them up like a shoe to get them tight).

The KH cover fits on my carbon fiber seat base. I haven't tried it on a
Miyata seat base. It is a snug fit on the CV seat base, but that's a
good thing. The snug fit means that it doesn't bunch up as much when
you sit on it. The CF seat base is pretty much the same size and shape
as the Miyata seat base so I would expect the KH seat cover to also fit
the Miyata seat base.

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It sounds like you got a better version of the KH than I, or at least
bigger. With mine, the drawstring is useless. The cover just barely fits
on, and I used the original Miyata metal clips to hold it in place. I
removed the string altogether.

From what I heard, the manufacturing of these covers is inconsistent.

john_childs said:

*
The KH cover is made by Roach. It rocks. I have it on my Coker.
Fits good and snug. Better than the old Roach covers that I have on
my muni and trials. The new drawstring on the new KH seat covers
works better than the older Roach seat covers (they basically slipped
on and then you laced them up like a shoe to get them tight).

The KH cover fits on my carbon fiber seat base. I haven't tried it on
a Miyata seat base. It is a snug fit on the CV seat base, but that's
a good thing. The snug fit means that it doesn't bunch up as much
when you sit on it. The CF seat base is pretty much the same size and
shape as the Miyata seat base so I would expect the KH seat cover to
also fit the Miyata seat base. *

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I would recommend an air seat design like in my 'airseat gallery'
(http://gallery.unicyclist.com/Airseat).

It's a very nice seat for both muni and Coker. You can play around
with things to make it comfortable for you. The shape of the foam makes
a big difference. The Miyata foam works great on my muni, but did not
work well at all on my Coker. I put Schwinn foam in my Coker seat and
it was much better. I'm going to try the foam from a Viscount to see
how well that works.

The only commercially available air pillow is that dogbone shaped one at
Unicycle.com. You should be able to use the dogbone pillow and sew it
in half so it's a single layer pillow and then add foam on top. That
saves you from having to make an air pillow from scratch. But I have
not tried the modified dogbone pillow, so I don't know how well that
would work.

I found the KH "Roach" cover to work very well. I tried a Gemcrest
leather cover and it was too loose and floppy for my tastes. The KH
"Roach" cover is much more snug and holds the seat together much better.
The Gemcrest leather cover has a lot more volume in it. It is taller
and fits more loosely on the seat base.

Seat preferences are a strange thing. What works great for one person
may not work well at all for another. Some people prefer the low volume
air seats that are made with a lower volume seat cover and just an inner
tube wrapped in duct tape or stuffed in an old sock. Whatever works.
No guarantees.

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Will someone please explain what the KH saddle cover is, or show me a
picture of it? Is it the same as the Roach one? I can't see it anywhere
on the US nor UK Unicycle.com sites. I did see a Miyata seat recently
with a very tight Roach-looking cover on it, but the cover didn't have
the Roach label nor a KH label on it. I just ordered a Roach saddle
cover - I wonder what I'm going to get...

However, I'm not confused about the single layer air pillow: I have made
two of these. It involved cutting the stock dog bone in half and sewing
on an extra section. Simply sewing straight across the halved dog bone
results in a too short pillow. I've had no problems with my modified
single layer air pillows. They fit a 12" inner tube.

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You're going to get a KH cover and it's likely going to be rather small
for a double layer pillow. It may work quite well with your single
layer pillow.

The "stealth" cover you saw was a KH that was even smaller than normal
due to some mfg quirk.

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OK, thanks George. I think I'll get a leather saddle cover, too, while
I'm here.

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