Meths in Coke Bottles.

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In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).

Sounds O.K. to me. I've kept meths in pop bottles. The plastic's PET and
isn't affected by meths.

Jim Ford

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Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).

Sounds O.K. to me. I've kept meths in pop bottles. The plastic's PET
and isn't affected by meths.

Jim Ford

Meths in a Coke bottle could be better than the original bottle the
meths came it ! I had a new bottle of meths leak in the back of my car
- what a pong :-(
--
Bill Grey
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Quoted message said:

In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).

Good idea?

I use small Robinsons Fruit Shoot bottles for meths without problems.
Their cap has a drinking spout and that works well for pouring too.

I always wrap them in a cheap thin freezers bags but have not had a leak
yet.

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Dominic Sexton

Quoted message said:

Meths in a Coke bottle could be better than the original bottle the
meths came it ! I had a new bottle of meths leak in the back of my car
- what a pong :-(

I would agree, the bottles you buy meths in are not at all suitable for
carrying the stuff, too fragile.

The PET bottles are really extremly tough, fill one with water and you
can play footbal with it, jump on them etc.

The bottles (PET) that fizzy drinks come in are enormously strong. I
used to work where we had dry ice and tried putting some in a 1L PET
bottle. It went banana shaped before it went off with a thunderous bang
- I'd say at least as loud as a maroon! I wouldn't have wanted to be
within 25 meters of it.

Jim Ford

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Quoted message said:

In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).

Good idea?

I can't see why it wouldn't be a good idea - meths is sold in similar
bottles anyway, isn't it?

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I had a new bottle of meths leak in the back of my car
- what a pong :-(

Vile, isn't it.
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Quoted message said:

In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).

Good idea?

[1] Kit, not my own!

Take the labels off.

IMHO if some toerag steals it they don't (quite) deserve to go blind.

Andy

On 21 May 2006 08:38:27 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:

|In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
|1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
|more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
|allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
|empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).
|
|Good idea?

*Very Bad Idea*,
Kids might think it is a new flavour of pop and drink it.
We killed lots of kids through doing this sort of thing, many years ago.
Heard of one case in ?Spain? last year, the kid only just survived
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 18:31:19 +0100, Fran <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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|> In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
|> 1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
|> more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
|> allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
|> empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).
|>
|> Good idea?
|>
|I can't see why it wouldn't be a good idea - meths is sold in similar
|bottles anyway, isn't it?

I have one in the garage ATM
No kid would think that was pop and poison themselves.
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Quoted message said:

On 21 May 2006 08:38:27 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:

|In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
|1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
|more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
|allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
|empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).
|
|Good idea?

*Very Bad Idea*,
Kids might think it is a new flavour of pop and drink it.
We killed lots of kids through doing this sort of thing, many years ago.
Heard of one case in ?Spain? last year, the kid only just survived

Give over, no one's going to try drinking the stuff once they've had a
chance to smell it, and besides which, the OP isn't likely to be in the
company of these children, is he.
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On Sun, 21 May 2006 20:07:38 +0100, Fran <[email hidden]>
wrote:

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|> On 21 May 2006 08:38:27 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
|>
|> |In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
|> |1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
|> |more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
|> |allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
|> |empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).
|> |
|> |Good idea?
|>
|> *Very Bad Idea*,
|> Kids might think it is a new flavour of pop and drink it.
|> We killed lots of kids through doing this sort of thing, many years ago.
|> Heard of one case in ?Spain? last year, the kid only just survived
|>
|Give over, no one's going to try drinking the stuff once they've had a
|chance to smell it, and besides which, the OP isn't likely to be in the
|company of these children, is he.

Kids do not associate smells with danger as well a we do

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***IT IS A VERY VERY VERY BAD IDEA***
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Just not worth taking that sort of risk when the alternative is unutterably
simple and available from many places.

Sitting on the desk in front of me, it lives on a high shelf in the garage.
Plastic bottle of Methylated spirits properly labled with all the warnings,
child proof top, one of those squeeze at the side things. Do not drink in
English and Braille. Warning triangle. Corrugated sides. Not sure where I
got it, maybe a chemist.
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Dave Fawthrop said:

Sitting on the desk in front of me, it lives on a high shelf in the garage.
Plastic bottle of Methylated spirits properly labled with all the warnings,
child proof top, one of those squeeze at the side things. Do not drink in
English and Braille. Warning triangle. Corrugated sides.

Exactly the sort of thing any kid would find interesting. The number of
times I saw school kids look at the most dangerously labelled thing I
had out on the bench and say "what would happen if I drank some of
that?" was unbelievable.

Thanks to everyone! I've read and noted every post which confirms what
I'd hoped.

I find the the bottles meths come in leak like crazy whereas pop
bottles seem bulletproof. I was just worried about the meths reacting
with the plastic, which clearly isn't a problem after all.

Dave Fawthrop said:

*Very Bad Idea*,
Kids might think it is a new flavour of pop and drink it.
We killed lots of kids through doing this sort of thing, many years ago.
Heard of one case in ?Spain? last year, the kid only just survived

Dave, it's going to be pop bottles not alcopop bottles.

Anyway I hate kids. Noisy, irritatingly energetic and often surly.
Whilst exterminating children wouldn't be a primary aim of my meths
storage method, one or two neutralized children _would_ be a bonus. Can
you advise of the minimum fatal dosage I'd need to administer?

Seriously. There will be no possibility a child could have contact with
these bottles.

On 21 May 2006 13:13:03 -0700, "AndyP" <[email hidden]> wrote:

|Dave Fawthrop wrote:
|> Sitting on the desk in front of me, it lives on a high shelf in the garage.
|> Plastic bottle of Methylated spirits properly labled with all the warnings,
|> child proof top, one of those squeeze at the side things. Do not drink in
|> English and Braille. Warning triangle. Corrugated sides.
|
|Exactly the sort of thing any kid would find interesting. The number of
|times I saw school kids look at the most dangerously labelled thing I
|had out on the bench and say "what would happen if I drank some of
|that?" was unbelievable.

But the result would not be your fault.
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Quoted message said:

In my perpetual batle against weight and size [1] I want to ditch my
1ltr SIGG and keep meths for a nine day motorcycling trip in two or
more 250ml pop bottles. That has a slight weight advantage and will
allow me to stow meths in tight spaces and discard bottles as they
empty (and, I suppose, replace my 'fuel bottles' as and when).

Good idea?

The bottles should take it okay (Trangia's own fuel bottles are plastic
IIRC). However, if you're looking to cut weight/bulk then moving to
gas, paraffin or petrol should lighten the total fuel load as they pack
more stove-releasable energy into the same volume of fuel. Assuming
you're using a trangia or similar meths stove, you can also save quite a
bit of weight and bulk with a lighter stove. If you like the stability
and stormproofing of a Trangia you can run on gas with the converter
from Primus or Markill (Markill one half the price though not "official"😉.

Pete.
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Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital
Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK
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Dave Fawthrop said:

But the result would not be your fault.

So that's all right then!

Would it be the OP's "fault" if some oik raided his panniers, stole a
bottle of purple pop and indulged? And what if he kept /matches and
sharp knives/ in his camping gear too? Horrors!

Pete.
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and discard bottles

All along both sides of the road? Our country is soon going to be no
more than one big land fill.

If these are PET bottle, stamp on them, flatten, and put them to
recycling when you find a facility.

Richard

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The bottles (PET) that fizzy drinks come in are enormously strong. I
used to work where we had dry ice and tried putting some in a 1L PET
bottle. It went banana shaped before it went off with a thunderous bang
- I'd say at least as loud as a maroon! I wouldn't have wanted to be
within 25 meters of it.

Jim Ford

Now that sounds like fun.

We've been experimenting with water rockets made from fizzy drink
bottles over the last few weeks. They take 120 psi with ease when hooked
up to a compressor. I haven't actually had one fail (yet).

Somebody has built a 3 stage water rocket from pop bottles:

http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/pagrosse/h2orocketsi.htm

Regards
--
Neil Pugh