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  1. Dawid Michalczyk wrote:
    :: Pizza Girl wrote:

    ::: Turkey is not higher in trytophan than any other meat. In fact it
    ::: is lower than many.
    ::
    :: Turkey is one of the meats that has the highest content of trytophan
    :: of all the regularly available meats westerners commonly eat.
    ::
    :: trytophan content per 100g of food and RDI (extracted from USDA
    :: National Nutrient Database)
    ::
    :: 0.545 Gms 194.6% elk
    :: [...]

    It does not work like that. The *relative* amounts of tryptophan count, not
    the absolute amounts. That is why the highest tryptophan content in brain
    can be achieved with a lactovegetarian diet or a diet close to it.

    ::: The sluggish feeling is overeating bad combinations. Protein with
    ::: lost of starchy carbs and fats.
    :::
    ::: "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    ::: news:[email hidden]...
    :::
    :::: On 6/16/2005 5:46 AM, Dawid Michalczyk wrote:
    ::::
    ::::: Dan wrote:
    ::::: Tryptophan (especially high in turkey meat) when combined with
    ::::: enough carbs in a meal, makes one sluggish and sleepy.
    :::::
    ::::: So basically, a low carb meal like steamed vegetables combined
    ::::: with lean meat cuts gives a good mental boost.
    :::::
    ::::
    :::: Thanks for the explanation!
    ::::
    :::: Dan

    --
    Juhana

  2. Dawid Michalczyk wrote:
    :: Dan wrote:
    ::: On 6/16/2005 5:46 AM, Dawid Michalczyk wrote:
    :::: Dan wrote:
    ::::: On 6/15/2005 6:14 PM, Dawid Michalczyk wrote:
    :::::: [email hidden] wrote:
    ::::::
    ::::::: Let's say I'll be participating in a competition of a mental
    ::::::: challange like Scrabble. This competition will be ongoing for
    ::::::: the whole day. I was wondering what I should eat for the period
    ::::::: in between, which is lunch. My understanding is that digestion
    ::::::: is a energy-consuming process
    ::::::: and will draw blood supply and oxygen from the brain to the
    ::::::: digestion system. That's why people can feel sleepy after lunch
    ::::::: but I cannot afford that if I want to do well in the
    ::::::: competition.
    :::::::
    ::::::: So can anyone please tell me what I should take for lunch so
    ::::::: that it will not affect me mentally but instead could even help
    ::::::: me?
    :::::::
    ::::::: Thank you.
    :::::::
    ::::::: Kingsley
    :::::::
    :::::: These meals work great for me when I need brain power:
    :::::: (Make sure you chew it well, just so it blends with the saliva.)
    ::::::
    :::::: 1) 50-100g freshly harvested mung bean sprouts ( so the sprouted
    :::::: tip is about an inch ) eaten with 2-3 freshly chopped carrots
    :::::: and 15-25g raisins. I grow sprouts myself for maximum freshness.
    ::::::
    :::::: 2) 200-300g lean chicken breast with low carb vegetables like
    :::::: broccoli, a tomato and a cucumber.
    ::::::
    :::::: 3) The following is FAR better then the two above but do it at
    :::::: own risk. 300-400g of raw beef, must be at least hormone and
    :::::: antibiotic free. Organic is best. Grass fed beef is especially
    :::::: fantastic. Ground the beef if not already grounded, mix with
    :::::: chopped leeks(25-50g) and a very small onion. You may add spices
    :::::: if desired. Fantastic for long lasting mental alertness and well
    :::::: being.
    ::::::
    ::::: One chicken breast filet (baked), 2 cups broccoli (steamed) , 1
    ::::: red pepper (steamed) always gives me a mental boost and energy.
    ::::: Don't know why, but it is a perfect meal for me.
    ::::
    :::: It's because of the tyrosine amino acid found in chicken (and other
    :::: meats) and the low carb meal. Tyrosine stimulates production of the
    :::: neurotransmitters that spark mental performance. Additionally, the
    :::: low carb content of the meal keeps another amino acid, called
    :::: tryptophan, from acting in the opposite way of tyrosine.
    ::::
    :::: Tryptophan (especially high in turkey meat) when combined with
    :::: enough carbs in a meal, makes one sluggish and sleepy.
    ::::
    :::: So basically, a low carb meal like steamed vegetables combined with
    :::: lean meat cuts gives a good mental boost.
    ::::
    :::
    ::: Would it make sense for me to take a tyrosine supplement pill in the
    ::: morning when I can't eat lean meat?
    ::
    :: Personally I always prefer to rely on quality food rather then a
    :: supplement pill. Perhaps tyrosine relies on several unknown factors
    :: to make it work. Like certain nutrients that are always part of the
    :: same food tyrosine is naturally part of. Human body is extremely
    :: complex, so much is going on inside of us every single second.
    :: Nobody knows for sure how things work and why. Which is one of the
    :: reasons there is so much confusion, due to conflicting information,
    :: in the nutrition today.
    ::
    :: I would take tyrosine (or foods high in tyrosine) on occasions - when
    :: you really need it. Like a school test or some other mentally
    :: challenging work. If one starts taking it every day, one could become
    :: addicted to it.
    ::
    :: Foods high in tyrosine per 100g of food: (extracted from USDA
    :: National Nutrient Database, not all foods are included only the ones
    :: that interested me)

    Yes, you forgot to mention the highest sources:

    http://www.nutritiondata.com/foods-000087000000000000000-w.html

    :: 1.776 Gms cheese_gruyere
    :: 1.693 Gms cheese_swiss
    :: 1.454 Gms cheese_gouda
    :: 1.295 Gms cheese_blue
    :: 1.197 Gms cheese_limburger
    :: 1.188 Gms turkey_breast_meat
    :: 1.182 Gms turkey_light_meat
    :: 1.182 Gms cheese_monterey
    :: 1.176 Gms rabbit
    :: 1.129 Gms turkey_dark_meat
    :: 1.123 Gms mozzarella_cheese
    :: 1.123 Gms cheese_mozzarella
    :: 1.115 Gms chicken_light_meat
    :: 1.081 Gms elk
    :: 1.077 Gms buffalo
    :: 1.069 Gms deer
    :: 1.049 Gms peanuts
    :: 1.019 Gms pumpkin_seeds
    :: 0.978 Gms chicken_breast_meat
    :: 0.967 Gms beef_liver
    :: 0.950 Gms chicken_dark_meat
    :: 0.914 Gms bison
    :: 0.878 Gms pinenuts
    :: 0.859 Gms salmon
    :: 0.828 Gms lamb_sirloin
    :: 0.794 Gms beef_liver_raw
    :: 0.771 Gms cod
    :: 0.769 Gms chicken
    :: 0.746 Gms eggs_raw_yolk
    :: [...]

    These are mostly animal foods and high insaturated fat, and they are
    definitely not good for good mental performance as saturated fats make cell
    membranes more stiff. Pinenuts, salmon and sesam seeds are fine. The
    tyrosine content of mackerel is 869.1 mg/ 100g and mackerel is also high in
    phosphatidylserine, which has been found to increase cognitive functions.

    http://www.degussa-bioactives.com/bioactives/html/e/products/brands/lecips/phosphat_dietary.htm

    Stress. 2004 Jun;7(2):119-26.
    Effects of soy lecithin phosphatidic acid and phosphatidylserine complex
    (PAS) on the endocrine and psychological responses to mental stress.
    Hellhammer J, Fries E, Buss C, Engert V, Tuch A, Rutenberg D, Hellhammer D.
    Neuropattern, Trier, Germany.

    Phosphatidylserine, derived from cow brains, has been shown previously to
    dampen the ACTH and cortisol response to physical stress. Further research
    investigated the influence of soy lecithin phosphatidylserine
    supplementation on mood and heart rate when faced with an acute stressor. In
    this study, we investigated the effects of soy lecithin phosphatidic acid
    and phosphatidylserine complex (PAS) supplementation on pituitary adrenal
    reactivity (ACTH, cortisol) and on the psychological response (Spielberger
    State Anxiety Inventory stress subscale) to a mental and emotional stressor.
    Four groups of 20 subjects were treated for three weeks with daily dosages
    of either 400 mg PAS, 600 mg PAS, 800 mg PAS, or placebo before exposure to
    the Trier Social Stress Test (TSST). Treatment with 400 mg PAS resulted in a
    pronounced blunting of both serum ACTH and cortisol, and salivary cortisol
    responses to the TSST, but did not affect heart rate. The effect was not
    seen with larger doses of PAS. With regard to the psychological response,
    400 mg PAS seemed to exert a specific positive effect on emotional responses
    to the TSST. While the placebo group showed the expected increase in
    distress after the test, the group treated with 400 mg PAS showed decreased
    distress. These data provide initial evidence for a selective stress
    dampening effect of PAS on the pituitary-adrenal axis, suggesting the
    potential of PAS in the treatment of stress related disorders. PMID:
    15512856

    Nutr Neurosci. 2001;4(3):169-78.
    The influence of phosphatidylserine supplementation on mood and heart rate
    when faced with an acute stressor.
    Benton D, Donohoe RT, Sillance B, Nabb S.
    Department of Psychology, University of Wales Swansea, United Kingdom.

    There have been previous reports that supplements of phosphatidylserine (PS)
    blunted the release of cortisol in response to exercise stress and that it
    improved mood. The present study extended these observations by considering
    whether PS supplementation influenced subjective feelings of stress and the
    change in heart rate when a stressful mental arithmetic task was performed.
    In young adults, with neuroticism scores above rather than below the median,
    the taking of 300mg PS each day for a month was associated with feeling less
    stressed and having a better mood. The study for the first time reports an
    improvement in mood following PS supplementation in a sub-group of young
    healthy adults. PMID: 11842886

    --
    Juhana

  3. Looks like turkey is lower than most meats, even of the few that were
    mentioned.

    Read your own posted stats.

    "Dawid Michalczyk" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Pizza Girl said:

    Turkey is not higher in trytophan than any other meat. In fact it is


    lower

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    than many.

    Turkey is one of the meats that has the highest content of trytophan of
    all the regularly available meats westerners commonly eat.

    trytophan content per 100g of food and RDI (extracted from USDA National
    Nutrient Database)

    0.545 Gms 194.6% elk
    0.436 Gms 155.7% rabbit
    0.431 Gms 153.9% pumpkin_seeds
    0.421 Gms 150.4% cheese_gruyere
    0.401 Gms 143.2% cheese_swiss
    0.388 Gms 138.6% sesame_seeds_dried
    0.386 Gms 137.9% chicken_light_meat
    0.371 Gms 132.5% sesame_seeds_roasted
    0.358 Gms 127.9% almonds
    0.352 Gms 125.7% cheese_gouda
    0.351 Gms 125.4% beef_liver
    0.348 Gms 124.3% sunflower_seeds
    0.342 Gms 122.1% turkey_breast_meat
    0.340 Gms 121.4% turkey_light_meat
    0.339 Gms 121.1% chicken_breast_meat
    0.329 Gms 117.5% chicken_dark_meat
    0.327 Gms 116.8% buffalo
    0.325 Gms 116.1% turkey_dark_meat
    0.315 Gms 112.5% cheese_monterey
    0.312 Gms 111.4% cheese_blue
    0.303 Gms 108.2% pinenuts
    0.293 Gms 104.6% cocoa
    0.289 Gms 103.2% cheese_limburger
    0.288 Gms 102.9% lamb_sirloin
    0.288 Gms 102.9% beef_liver_raw
    0.285 Gms 101.8% salmon
    0.283 Gms 101.1% pistachio_nuts_dried
    0.271 Gms 96.8% mozzarella_cheese
    0.271 Gms 96.8% cheese_mozzarella
    0.266 Gms 95.0% chicken

    --
    Dawid Michalczyk
    http://www.art.eonworks.com - Art and Illustration

    Quoted message said:

    The sluggish feeling is overeating bad combinations. Protein with lost


    of

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    starchy carbs and fats.

    "Dan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 6/16/2005 5:46 AM, Dawid Michalczyk wrote:

    >Dan wrote:
    >Tryptophan (especially high in turkey meat) when combined with enough
    >carbs in a meal, makes one sluggish and sleepy.
    >
    >So basically, a low carb meal like steamed vegetables combined with


    lean

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    >meat cuts gives a good mental boost.
    >

    Thanks for the explanation!

    Dan

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    Quoted message said:

    ... competition of a mental challange ... what I should eat ...


    Nibble on fruit throughout the competition. Fruit sugars will supply
    the brain with energy.
    Beware of the recommendations for concentrated proteins (nuts/seeds,
    ....), as they will diminish intellectual clarity.

    Laurie

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