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Leafing through rec.running, I read a message from [email hidden]
of 04 Jan 2005:Quoted message said:
Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?I don't get these messages, but if I did I would determine from where they
are comming. What is the reason for these negative thoughts? Do you feel
any pain? Are you over training? Are you allowing for recovery days with
easy and/or no running? Are you eating and hydrating properly? Are you
getting enough sleep? What do you mean by "start of running?" Do you mean
the begining of a running program, or the begining of your run for that
day?Phil M.
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"What counts in battle is what you do once the pain sets in." -John Short,
South African coach. -
"spinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I
can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?Build slowly and stay within your comfort zone. If your run sucks from
the first step each day the re-visit how much you are running. There
will be some discomfort if you are just starting out but it should go
away after a few minutes of slow walking or running. I hope your not
following too closely everyone's weekly posted mileage and pushing to
hard to get bigger numbers.-DF
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Doug Freese said:
"spinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I
can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?Build slowly and stay within your comfort zone. If your run sucks
I don't think I've ever had a run that "sucks."
Even the less memorable ones when I suffered
some injury 🙂Quoted message said:
from
the first step each day the re-visit how much you are running. There
will be some discomfort if you are just starting out but it should go
away after a few minutes of slow walking or running. I hope your not
following too closely everyone's weekly posted mileage and pushing to
hard to get bigger numbers.Slow down, take it easy is good advice
from a beer drinker 🙂 -
"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Slow down, take it easy is good advice
from a beer drinker 🙂It was damp a chilly yesterday so I had a nice glass of Cabernet with
dinner. I hope the Heineken people don't catch me. 😉-Doug
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"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Slow down, take it easy is good advice
from a beer drinker 🙂It was damp a chilly yesterday so I had a nice glass of Cabernet with
dinner. I hope the Heineken people don't catch me. 😉-Doug
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"spinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?Pick up the book 'Running Within' by Lynch/Scott. It basically
addresses the mental issues of running and racing. Some of it is
hokey, but there's some valuable strategies and ideas that are
quite good that I have had some success with.cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com -
"spinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
Quoted message said:
Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?Pick up the book 'Running Within' by Lynch/Scott. It basically
addresses the mental issues of running and racing. Some of it is
hokey, but there's some valuable strategies and ideas that are
quite good that I have had some success with.cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com -
SwStudio said:
"spinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in messageQuoted message said:
Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?Pick up the book 'Running Within' by Lynch/Scott. It basically
addresses the mental issues of running and racing. Some of it is
hokey, but there's some valuable strategies and ideas that are
quite good that I have had some success with.Far be it from me to disagree with david, but...
Get up, get out, get moving. The more you
run the more you clear the mind. The more
you read and ponder the psychology the
more you sit on your hind end... -
SwStudio said:
"spinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in messageQuoted message said:
Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?Pick up the book 'Running Within' by Lynch/Scott. It basically
addresses the mental issues of running and racing. Some of it is
hokey, but there's some valuable strategies and ideas that are
quite good that I have had some success with.Far be it from me to disagree with david, but...
Get up, get out, get moving. The more you
run the more you clear the mind. The more
you read and ponder the psychology the
more you sit on your hind end... -
Doug Freese said:
"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Slow down, take it easy is good advice
from a beer drinker 🙂It was damp a chilly yesterday so I had a nice glass of Cabernet with
dinner. I hope the Heineken people don't catch me. 😉hmmm...alcohol _temporarily_ warms the extremities,
(saint bernards notwithstanding) but soon results
in hypothermia.Just a card carrying first responder thought... 😉
Heineken, BTW, is just a bit sour...
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Doug Freese said:
"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Slow down, take it easy is good advice
from a beer drinker 🙂It was damp a chilly yesterday so I had a nice glass of Cabernet with
dinner. I hope the Heineken people don't catch me. 😉hmmm...alcohol _temporarily_ warms the extremities,
(saint bernards notwithstanding) but soon results
in hypothermia.Just a card carrying first responder thought... 😉
Heineken, BTW, is just a bit sour...
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Phil M. said:
Leafing through rec.running, I read a message from [email hidden]
of 04 Jan 2005:Quoted message said:
Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?I don't get these messages, but if I did I would determine from where they
are comming. What is the reason for these negative thoughts? Do you feel
any pain? Are you over training? Are you allowing for recovery days with
easy and/or no running? Are you eating and hydrating properly? Are you
getting enough sleep? What do you mean by "start of running?" Do you mean
the begining of a running program, or the begining of your run for that
day?I agree with Phil. I do get those messages, and it helps me to squelch
them if I know their source.Also, in "The Lore of Running", Noakes talks about his theory (don't
know if it's true or not, but interesting) called the Central Governor
that exists unconsciously inside you that gives you those "I can't do
any more" messages in order to stop you from running yourself to death,
etc...Part of training is to gradually increase distance or speed,
whatever floats your boat, in small enough increments that you convince
the CG that you indeed will not die if you run 11 miles instead of 10,
for instance. So in his theory, those messages are to be expected when
pushing one's limits.-J
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"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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SwStudio said:
"spinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in messageQuoted message said:
Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?Pick up the book 'Running Within' by Lynch/Scott. It basically
addresses the mental issues of running and racing. Some of it is
hokey, but there's some valuable strategies and ideas that are
quite good that I have had some success with.Far be it from me to disagree with david, but...
Get up, get out, get moving. The more you
run the more you clear the mind. The more
you read and ponder the psychology the
more you sit on your hind end...Tom, it's unbelievable that you believe my suggestion of reading a
book about the motivational aspects of running should not include
running itself. I thought it was really obvious, but I will repeat my
advice with the obvious added in for your benefit:Pick up the book 'Running Within' by Lynch/Scott. It basically
addresses the mental issues of running and racing. Some of it is
hokey, but there's some valuable strategies and ideas that are
quite good that I have had some success with.*While* you are reading this book (but perhaps not at the same
time) remember to CONTINUE going out for your regular runs.
DON'T quit running just to read the book. It's is meant to be a
companion/aid to running, NOT a replacement! I repeat, reading
is NOT a replacement for running! You cannot get fitter simply
from reading!!Good luck!
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com -
I've always felt solo running and meditation were similar.
It clears my mind, calms emotions (unless a stupid driver
cuts me off or dog chases me), and invigorates the body.
I've wondered if its partially due to the deeper, regular
breathing of running? Many meditative techniques emphasize
proper breathing.
In fact, when I'm in running meditation, I will avoid interaction
with other people on the trail. Once in a while someone will
try to run to run with me or race me, and I avoid them.
Doesnt mean I dont enjoy social running a couple times a week,
but only when I seek it out. -
SwStudio said:
"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in messageQuoted message said:
SwStudio said:
"spinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
> Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I can't
> go any further messages you get at the start of running?Pick up the book 'Running Within' by Lynch/Scott. It basically
addresses the mental issues of running and racing. Some of it is
hokey, but there's some valuable strategies and ideas that are
quite good that I have had some success with.Far be it from me to disagree with david, but...
Get up, get out, get moving. The more you
run the more you clear the mind. The more
you read and ponder the psychology the
more you sit on your hind end...Tom, it's unbelievable that you believe my suggestion of reading a
book about the motivational aspects of running should not include
running itself. I thought it was really obvious, but I will repeat my
advice with the obvious added in for your benefit:Pick up the book 'Running Within' by Lynch/Scott.
No thanks. Maybe for someone, but not me. I
deal with my own mental issues by just getting
off my lazy ass and running 🙂 Reading about
it would only make me sit all the more...Quoted message said:
It basically
addresses the mental issues of running and racing. Some of it is
hokey, but there's some valuable strategies and ideas that are
quite good that I have had some success with.Well, if it helps I'm not saying don't read.
But at some point one simply has to run.Quoted message said:
*While* you are reading this book (but perhaps not at the same
time) remember to CONTINUE going out for your regular runs.
DON'T quit running just to read the book. It's is meant to be a
companion/aid to running, NOT a replacement! I repeat, reading
is NOT a replacement for running! You cannot get fitter simply
from reading!!Well, I suppose the context of what constitutes
"fit" applies here. Mentally fit surely follows
reading. Physically fit definitely follows just
getting one's butt up out the door 🙂Quoted message said:
Good luck!
And you.
Quoted message said:
cheers,
--
David (in Hamilton, ON)
www.allfalldown.org
www.absolutelyaccurate.com -
BTW, I was simply commenting on the issues
of thinking about something too much. Not
your motives 🙂 -
"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Heineken, BTW, is just a bit sour...
Bite your tongue, it's almost too sweet. My real love is India Pale Ale
made from Cascade malt and Cascade hops. Sad to say IPA's are hard to
find in the summer but now are plentiful.-Doug
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"Tom Phillips" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...Quoted message said:
Heineken, BTW, is just a bit sour...
Bite your tongue, it's almost too sweet. My real love is India Pale Ale
made from Cascade malt and Cascade hops. Sad to say IPA's are hard to
find in the summer but now are plentiful.-Doug
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"spinner" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Anyone got any good tips for clearing the mind and ignoring the I can't
go any further messages you get at the start of running?Yup. Develop a backbone of steel, you whinger :-)
Roger.
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