mechs long vs short

Matthew Paterson said:

What are the advantages/disadvantages of a long cage mech
over a short cage mech. What are the differences,

Long cage takes up more chain at the cost of also picking
up more debris.

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besides the obvious, people 🙂

never mind

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Doki said:

Matthew Paterson said:

What are the advantages/disadvantages of a long cage mech
over a short cage mech. What are the differences, besides
the obvious, people 🙂

Long cage mechs can handle a wider range of gears than
short cage AFAIK.

I'ld heard that as well, but I used to run an 11-34 cassette
with a short cage, not problem. I ran it because I ripped
off the long cage within the first 10 miles of a new bike,
got nervous and decided to go with long cage. YMMV

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Long cage mechs can handle a wider range of gears than
short cage AFAIK.

I'ld heard that as well, but I used to run an 11-34
cassette with a short cage, not problem. I ran it
because I ripped off the long cage within the first 10
miles of a new bike, got nervous and decided to go with
long cage. YMMV

Local wrench (so take this with a grain of salt)told me
the long cage shifts smoother at the cost of picking up
more debris.

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Long cage mechs can handle a wider range of gears than
short cage

AFAIK.

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I'ld heard that as well, but I used to run an 11-34
cassette with a short cage, not problem. I ran it
because I ripped off the long cage within the first 10
miles of a new bike, got nervous and decided to go with
long cage. YMMV

Local wrench (so take this with a grain of salt)told me
the long cage shifts smoother at the cost of picking up
more debris.

Other way around as far as I've heard - shorter cage =
crisper shifting, but a long cage is needed to take up chain
slack when running triple up front and a wide range at back.

Shaun aRe

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Local wrench (so take this with a grain of salt)told me
the long cage shifts smoother at the cost of picking up
more debris.

Other way around as far as I've heard - shorter cage =
crisper shifting, but a long cage is needed to take up
chain slack when running triple up front and a wide range
at back.

That sounds better. HOw's this though: Long Cage = ability
to suck up chain slack. Short cage = less likely to pick up
debris / get hit. "Crisp" shifting = unaffected by cage
length because movement of the cage for shifting is found at
the joint of the cage and the rest of the derailleur (not to
mention movement is perpendicular to cage swing).

Hmmm...another thread in favour of SS.

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Local wrench (so take this with a grain of salt)told me
the long cage shifts smoother at the cost of picking up
more debris.

Other way around as far as I've heard - shorter cage =
crisper shifting, but a long cage is needed to take up
chain slack when running triple up front and a wide range
at back.

That sounds better. HOw's this though: Long Cage = ability
to suck up chain slack. Short cage = less likely to pick up
debris / get hit. "Crisp" shifting = unaffected by cage
length because movement of the cage for shifting is found at
the joint of the cage and the rest of the derailleur (not to
mention movement is perpendicular to cage swing).

Hmmm...another thread in favour of SS.

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Local wrench (so take this with a grain of salt)told
me the long cage shifts smoother at the cost of
picking up more debris.

Other way around as far as I've heard - shorter cage =
crisper shifting,

but

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a long cage is needed to take up chain slack when
running triple up

front

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and a wide range at back.

That sounds better. HOw's this though: Long Cage = ability
to suck up chain slack.

Yup.

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Short cage = less likely to pick up debris / get hit.

Yup.

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"Crisp" shifting = unaffected by cage length because
movement of the cage for shifting is found at the joint of
the cage and the rest of the derailleur (not to mention
movement is perpendicular to cage swing).

Nope! Heh...

Seriously, the long cage tends to flop about more than the
short cage - there's enough play in all the der. buuchings
when new, and more develops very quickly - the long cage
seems to exaggerate the effects of this on shifting. Oh,
'IME' ',;~}~

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Hmmm...another thread in favour of SS.

Screw SS - my knees are already dead.

Shaun aRe