Meat eating = higher mortality

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1 Corinthians 10

25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising
questions of conscience,

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Teeth too small. Man is an omnivore, eating both plants and
animals. That si worldwide too.

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1 Corinthians 10

25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising
questions of conscience,

Love it!! You are right!!

BL

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Of course the mortality rate of the group is 100%, as
always.

But this summary says nothing about mortality. I suspect
nobody in the group died of coronary artery disease, nor did
they test for any other symptoms of related disease. The
study's authors claim only a positive correlation between
eating "meat"and GGT.

Of course, it *might* have been helpful if they'd taken note
as to what *kind* of meat was eaten. Whaddayathink?

Oops. I just saw, "Jesus was a vegetarian". Don't worry your
little head about it.

Randy

doe said:

<<snip>> dietary heme iron, but not saturated fat, was
associated with GGT <<snip>>

Am J Clin Nutr. 2004 Apr;79(4):600-5. Links

Association between serum gamma-glutamyltransferase and
dietary factors: the Coronary Artery Risk Development in
Young Adults (CARDIA) Study.

Lee DH, Steffen LM, Jacobs DR Jr.

Division of Epidemiology, School of Public Health,
University of Minnesota, Minneapolis (D-HL, LMS, and DRJ).

BACKGROUND: Diet may be involved in the strong dose-
response relation of gamma-glutamyltransferase (GGT)
concentration with incident diabetes. OBJECTIVE: We
examined dietary correlates of serum GGT activity.
DESIGN: Study subjects were 3146 black and white men and
women aged 17-35 y in 1985-1986. A diet history was taken
at years 0 and 7. Food items were classified into
alcohol; breaded, battered, or canned vegetables; fruit;
fruit juice; refined grain; whole grain; dairy; legumes;
meat; poultry; fish; fresh or frozen vegetables; nuts;
and coffee. RESULTS: After adjustment for nondietary
factors and other food groups, GGT was positively
associated with alcohol consumption and meat intake.
Geometric means of year 10 GGT across categories of
alcohol consumption (0, 1-9, 10-19, 20-29, and >/=="
BORDER="0"> 30 g/d) were 17.7,
18.8, 20.4, 21.8, and 24.8 U/L (P for trend < 0.01);
corresponding means across quintiles of meat intake
were 19.2, 20.2, 20.5, 21.8, and 21.2 times/wk (P for
trend < 0.01). GGT was inversely associated with fruit
intake. Among possible meat constituents, dietary heme
iron, but not saturated fat, was associated with GGT.
Dietary constituents typical of plant foods showed an
inverse association. In contrast, vitamin supplements
were positively associated with GGT. CONCLUSIONS: Serum
GGT activity increased in a dose-response manner as
alcohol and meat consumption increased and fruit
consumption decreased. Heme iron contained in meats and
micronutrients contained in fruits may influence GGT
metabolism. However, micronutrients taken as
supplements had a positive association with GGT.

PMID: 15051603 [PubMed - in process]

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1 Corinthians 10

25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising
questions of conscience,

Love it!! You are right!!

All of these documents show Jesus as opposing animal
sacrifice and favoring a vegetarian lifestyle

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1 Corinthians 10

25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising
questions of conscience,

Love it!! You are right!!

All of these documents show Jesus as opposing animal
sacrifice and favoring a vegetarian lifestyle

We omnivores eat living things (mostly once killed).

You vegetarians eat living things (mostly still alive).

And I am vehemently opposed to vegetable sacrifice.

"Take ye and drink, for this is the blood. . ." Jesus

So, ya see, we are all the same.

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1 Corinthians 10

25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising
questions of conscience,

Love it!! You are right!!

All of these documents show Jesus as opposing animal
sacrifice and

favoring a

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vegetarian lifestyle

Why don't you stuff yourself

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All of these documents show Jesus as opposing animal
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favoring a

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vegetarian lifestyle

Why don't you stuff yourself

Wouldn't that qualify as a Meat Injection .... er ....

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1 Corinthians 10

25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without raising
questions of conscience,

Love it!! You are right!!

All of these documents show Jesus as opposing animal
sacrifice and

favoring a

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vegetarian lifestyle

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And I've got writinig on the bathroom that lists your mother
as a good time. It's about as credible as throwing out
Paul's gospels in paragraph one of your rants, and relying
on the "Gnostic" texts, which simply haven't had the same
historical review and verification as the actual Gospels:
simply rely on whatever people happened to write about
Christ in the centuries after his death who never even met
the poor guy.

And a moment of silence for the poor guy: it is Easter,
after all, and the misuse of his name for nonsense in the
millennia since his death probably has him pretty upset. For
those of you who are curious about the misuse of his
teachings, I strongly recommend the actual gospels.

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>1 Corinthians 10
>
>25 Eat anything sold in the meat market without
>raising questions of conscience,

Love it!! You are right!!

All of these documents show Jesus as opposing animal
sacrifice and

favoring a

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vegetarian lifestyle

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And I've got writinig on the bathroom that lists your
mother as a good

time.

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It's about as credible as throwing out Paul's gospels in
paragraph one of your rants, and relying on the "Gnostic"
texts, which simply haven't had

the

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same historical review and verification as the actual
Gospels: simply rely on whatever people happened to write
about Christ in the centuries after

his

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death who never even met the poor guy.

And a moment of silence for the poor guy: it is Easter,
after all, and the misuse of his name for nonsense in the
millennia since his death probably has him pretty upset.
For those of you who are curious about the misuse of his
teachings, I strongly recommend the actual gospels.

But the gospels aren't corroborative. Mark was the only
disciple who branded Herrod as being a child murderer (in an
almost "passing" way) and yet that story is one of the best
known to have come out of the time.

I don't believe that Jesus was a veggie though, it's
actually a ridiculous thought.

Beav