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  1. I came home from my morning ride and found that my bike
    computer (a VDO C10 - wired, not wireless) had registered a
    max speed of exactly 369.00 kph (the C10 reads to 2 decimal
    places). Normally, I see a figure in the 40's or 50's.

    I got to wondering about the cause, and thought that I might
    have ridden close to a strong AC magnetic field at mains
    frequency. Since the Australian mains frequency is 50 Hertz,
    this could have switched the fork-mounted pickup at either
    50 or 100 times per second (depending on whether both half-
    cycles did the switching, or only one - an AC electromagnet
    reverses polarity with each half-cycle). Given that the
    computer is configured for a wheel circumference of 2050 mm,
    that gives me a switching frequency of 50 Hertz exactly (to
    3 decimal places) for 369 kph.

    So I think I've found the cause, and it got switched only on
    alternate mains half-cycles. Alas it wasn't a sudden,
    dramatic increase in my fitness. Still, it's nice to know
    the C10 is capable of registering pulses at that speed.

    John

  2. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by John Henderson
    I came home from my morning ride and found that my bike
    computer (a VDO C10 - wired, not wireless) had registered a
    max speed of exactly 369.00 kph (the C10 reads to 2 decimal
    places). Normally, I see a figure in the 40's or 50's.

    I got to wondering about the cause, and thought that I might
    have ridden close to a strong AC magnetic field at mains
    frequency. Since the Australian mains frequency is 50 Hertz,
    this could have switched the fork-mounted pickup at either
    50 or 100 times per second (depending on whether both half-
    cycles did the switching, or only one - an AC electromagnet
    reverses polarity with each half-cycle). Given that the
    computer is configured for a wheel circumference of 2050 mm,
    that gives me a switching frequency of 50 Hertz exactly (to
    3 decimal places) for 369 kph.

    So I think I've found the cause, and it got switched only on
    alternate mains half-cycles. Alas it wasn't a sudden,
    dramatic increase in my fitness. Still, it's nice to know
    the C10 is capable of registering pulses at that speed.

    John

    Dear John,

    I believe you, even if no one else does.

    Still, I'm sure that you won't mind stepping
    down the hall and providing a sample in this
    cup, just a routine test, nothing to worry about,
    won't take a moment . . .

    Good Lord! Burned a hole right through the cup!

    [Another amphetamine-crazed Australian biker
    blaming his obviously enhanced performance
    on--get this!--the electric company and his
    speedometer after the cops clocked him at
    230 mph!]

    Carl Fogel

  3. carlfogel said:

    [Another amphetamine-crazed Australian biker blaming his
    obviously enhanced performance on--get this!--the electric
    company and his speedometer after the cops clocked him at
    230 mph!]

    It would be sort of fun to be booked for speeding on a bike
    here in Canberra. You see, there are no speed limits
    applying to bicycles (reference
    pedalpower.org.aulaw.htm).

    John

  4. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by John Henderson

    B'carlfogel said:

    [Another amphetamine-crazed Australian biker blaming his
    obviously enhanced performance on--get this!--the electric
    company and his speedometer after the cops clocked him at
    230 mph!]

    It would be sort of fun to be booked for speeding on a bike
    here in Canberra. You see, there are no speed limits
    applying to bicycles (reference
    pedalpower.org.aulaw.htm).

    John [/B]

    I got breathalysed on my low racer recumbent at 5.30am last Sunday in Canberra (Northborne Avenue).
    Police must have been very bored.
    Would have been better to have been pulled over for speeding though.
    Pete Heal

  5. Quoted message said:

    John Henderson writes of a max speed 369 kph

    Had a similar thing happen with a Vetta C-500 (wireless).
    Had a max of 45 mph until we emerged from lunch. Then we
    found out we had been up to 158 mph-during lunch!!! Raised
    the average quite a bit too. Speculate that the magnet was
    situated just close enough to the sender to be
    intermittent. Bob

  6. "John Henderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I came home from my morning ride and found that my bike
    computer (a VDO C10 - wired, not wireless) had
    registered a max speed of exactly 369.00 kph (the C10
    reads to 2 decimal places). Normally, I see a figure in
    the 40's or 50's.

    (o: I'm not sure what it says about you that you feel the
    need to clarify that you weren't actually travelling at
    369km/h, but it is amusing!

    cheers dim

  7. One of my GPSs is recording 2100mph as the max, at the
    moment. The other says 41.
    --
    Ron Hardin [email hidden]

    On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

  8. Pity you didn't go past a speed camera. It would have been worth the fine to
    get the ticket and frame it :-)

    "John Henderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I came home from my morning ride and found that my bike
    computer (a VDO C10 - wired, not wireless) had
    registered a max speed of exactly 369.00 kph (the C10
    reads to 2 decimal places). Normally, I see a figure in
    the 40's or 50's.

    I got to wondering about the cause, and thought that I
    might have ridden close to a strong AC magnetic field at
    mains frequency. Since the Australian mains frequency is
    50 Hertz, this could have switched the fork-mounted pickup
    at either 50 or 100 times per second (depending on whether
    both half-cycles did the switching, or only one - an AC
    electromagnet reverses polarity with each half-cycle).
    Given that the computer is configured for a wheel
    circumference of 2050 mm, that gives me a switching
    frequency of 50 Hertz exactly (to 3 decimal places) for
    369 kph.

    So I think I've found the cause, and it got switched only
    on alternate mains half-cycles. Alas it wasn't a sudden,
    dramatic increase in my fitness. Still, it's nice to know
    the C10 is capable of registering pulses at that speed.

    John

  9. John Henderson said:

    I came home from my morning ride and found that my bike
    computer (a VDO C10 - wired, not wireless) had
    registered a max speed of exactly 369.00 kph (the C10
    reads to 2 decimal places). Normally, I see a figure in
    the 40's or 50's.

    I got to wondering about the cause, and thought that I
    might have ridden close to a strong AC magnetic field at
    mains frequency. Since the Australian mains frequency is
    50 Hertz, this could have switched the fork-mounted pickup
    at either 50 or 100 times per second (depending on whether
    both half-cycles did the switching, or only one - an AC
    electromagnet reverses polarity with each half-cycle).
    Given that the computer is configured for a wheel
    circumference of 2050 mm, that gives me a switching
    frequency of 50 Hertz exactly (to 3 decimal places) for
    369 kph.

    It may not have been switching the reed switch at all; it
    could have induced enough voltage in the lead wires to
    fool the computer into thinking the reed switch was
    closing. On the other hand, 50 Hz isn't out of the
    question for a reed switch. The one on my Flight Deck can
    handle about 30 Hz max.

    --
    Ray Heindl (remove the Xs to reply to: [email hidden])

  10. Quoted message said:

    Still, it's nice to know the C10 is capable of registering
    pulses at that speed.

    Quoted message said:

    John

    The computer is, but I doubt the microswitch in the sensor
    would ever work at that speed.

    Uh, You aren't seriously considering trying to go that
    fast, are you?

    - - "May you have the wind at your back. And a really low
    gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner geocities.comczcorner

  11. John Henderson said:

    It would be sort of fun to be booked for speeding on a bike
    here in Canberra. You see, there are no speed limits
    applying to bicycles (reference

    Quoted message said:

    pedalpower.org.aulawhtm
    pedalpower.org.aulaw.htm).

    Quoted message said:

    John

    They probably don't think a cyclist is capable of going fast
    enough to exceed the speed limit.

    I still wish there had been a cop waiting on San
    Fransisquito Rd on that windy day. It would have be nice to
    have a valid "certificate" of my
    62.3 mph (100 KPH) speed. That's valid speed, not
    "electronically induced".

    - - "May you have the wind at your back. And a really low
    gear for the hills!"

    Chris Zacho ~ "Your Friendly Neighborhood Wheelman"

    Chris'Z Corner geocities.comczcorner

  12. "Chris Zacho "The Wheelman"" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    John Henderson wrote:

    I still wish there had been a cop waiting on San
    Fransisquito Rd on that windy day. It would have be nice
    to have a valid "certificate" of my
    62.3 mph (100 KPH) speed. That's valid speed, not
    "electronically induced".

    I lived in Germany for a while which has those speeding
    cameras peppered all over the place. There was this one
    descent into a town in the black forest that had one right
    at the base set at 80kph. If you had the stones to break
    hard enough right afterwards (there was an intersection
    shortly afterwards - the reason for the speed trap) you
    could get it to trip. You'd know because it's got this
    bright strobe which goes off to let the driver know he's
    been nailed.

    -Andy B.

  13. John Henderson said:

    I came home from my morning ride and found that my bike
    computer (a VDO C10 - wired, not wireless) had
    registered a max speed of exactly 369.00 kph (the C10
    reads to 2 decimal places). Normally, I see a figure in
    the 40's or 50's.

    I got to wondering about the cause, and thought that I
    might have ridden close to a strong AC magnetic field at
    mains frequency. Since the Australian mains frequency is
    50 Hertz, this could have switched the fork-mounted pickup
    at either 50 or 100 times per second (depending on whether
    both half-cycles did the switching, or only one - an AC
    electromagnet reverses polarity with each half-cycle).
    Given that the computer is configured for a wheel
    circumference of 2050 mm, that gives me a switching
    frequency of 50 Hertz exactly (to 3 decimal places) for
    369 kph.

    So I think I've found the cause, and it got switched only
    on alternate mains half-cycles. Alas it wasn't a sudden,
    dramatic increase in my fitness. Still, it's nice to know
    the C10 is capable of registering pulses at that speed.

    John

    The fastest I've been able to get my Polar up to is 121 mph.
    (Probably the same time I managed 256 bpm).

  14. I got a similar problem by passing through an alarm gate in
    a shop. But my bike computer only reaches 99 km/h. I have to
    train me more to reach you 369 km/h...

    "John Henderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in
    message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I came home from my morning ride and found that my bike
    computer (a VDO C10 - wired, not wireless) had
    registered a max speed of exactly 369.00 kph (the C10
    reads to 2 decimal places). Normally, I see a figure in
    the 40's or 50's.

    I got to wondering about the cause, and thought that I
    might have ridden close to a strong AC magnetic field at
    mains frequency. Since the Australian mains frequency is
    50 Hertz, this could have switched the fork-mounted pickup
    at either 50 or 100 times per second (depending on whether
    both half-cycles did the switching, or only one - an AC
    electromagnet reverses polarity with each half-cycle).
    Given that the computer is configured for a wheel
    circumference of 2050 mm, that gives me a switching
    frequency of 50 Hertz exactly (to 3 decimal places) for
    369 kph.

    So I think I've found the cause, and it got switched only
    on alternate mains half-cycles. Alas it wasn't a sudden,
    dramatic increase in my fitness. Still, it's nice to know
    the C10 is capable of registering pulses at that speed.

    John

  15. In rec.bicycles.tech John Henderson said:

    I got to wondering about the cause, and thought that I
    might have ridden close to a strong AC magnetic field at
    mains frequency. Since the Australian mains frequency is
    50 Hertz, this could have switched the fork-mounted pickup
    at either 50 or 100 times per second (depending on whether
    both half-cycles did the switching, or only one - an AC
    electromagnet reverses polarity with each half-cycle).
    Given that the computer is configured for a wheel
    circumference of 2050 mm, that gives me a switching
    frequency of 50 Hertz exactly (to 3 decimal places) for
    369 kph.

    I also have a VDO computer (wireless) and yesterday I
    managed to ride
    565.65 km/h. Can you explain this too? The wheel
    circumference is 2095 mm.

    -as

  16. Antti Salonen said:

    I also have a VDO computer (wireless) and yesterday I
    managed to ride 565.65 km/h. Can you explain this too? The
    wheel circumference is 2095 mm.

    That corresponds to a switching frequency (at the wheel
    pickup) of exactly 75 Hertz: 565.65 / 3600 (to km / second),
    * 1000 (to metres / second), / 2.095 (to wheel rotations per
    second). That's too neat to be plausible as just
    coincidence. But what "signal" do you have in your area that
    might be 75 Hz?

    John

  17. In rec.bicycles.tech John Henderson said:
    Antti Salonen said:

    I also have a VDO computer (wireless) and yesterday I
    managed to ride 565.65 km/h. Can you explain this too?
    The wheel circumference is 2095 mm.

    That corresponds to a switching frequency (at the wheel
    pickup) of exactly 75 Hertz: 565.65 / 3600 (to km /
    second), * 1000 (to metres / second), / 2.095 (to wheel
    rotations per second). That's too neat to be plausible as
    just coincidence. But what "signal" do you have in your
    area that might be 75 Hz?

    Beats me. Electricity is 50 Hz here as well, and I didn't
    really pay attention to my surroundings when it occured,
    so I don't know what might've triggered it. Perhaps it
    was my EKG?

    -as

  18. Antti Salonen said:

    Beats me. Electricity is 50 Hz here as well, and I didn't
    really pay attention to my surroundings when it occured,
    so I don't know what might've triggered it. Perhaps it
    was my EKG?

    I had a vague recollection that 75 Hz might be used in some
    rail systems. Google shows that the Netherlands uses 75 Hz
    for railways signalling. Perhaps it's used elsewhere in
    Europe too.

    John

  19. In rec.bicycles.tech John Henderson said:

    I had a vague recollection that 75 Hz might be used in
    some rail systems. Google shows that the Netherlands uses
    75 Hz for railways signalling. Perhaps it's used elsewhere
    in Europe too.

    That should be it then. My route went alongside and passed a
    railway several times.

    -as

  20. Antti Salonen said:

    That should be it then. My route went alongside and passed
    a railway several times.

    We really must keep quiet about all this now. Otherwise the
    Americans, led by Carl Fogel himself, will take the
    competitive edge in the next TDF by closely tracking all
    available power lines and railway easements.

    John

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