Mavic OpenPro clicking noise

Jesper Brondum said:

Hi

My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
warranty is therefore gone :-(

ie. all my OP rims, satin, black, CD klicks more or less.

It seems that the eyelets not properly pressed, so they start moving
around ... and click.

I examined my old OpenSUP from the mid 90's, and there the eyelets is
pressed properly to the rim.

Anyone got a solution ?

Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

http://www.velocityusa.com

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Jesper

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Jesper Brondum said:

My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, after a year or so, and
the warranty is therefore gone. ie. all my OP rims, satin, black,
CD clicks more or less. It seems that the eyelets not properly
pressed, so they start moving around ... and click.

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I examined my old OpenSUP from the mid 90's, and there the eyelets
is pressed properly to the rim.

If you look at the inside of the rim where the spoke nipple bears on
the eyelet, do you see any rust? It is my experience that clicking
occurs between brass spoke nipples and steel eyelets when the zinc
plating on the eyelets wears through to develop a fine layer of rust.
The clicking is from fretting, the same micro-motion that wore off the
zinc plating in the first place.

This has been common in rims as long as I have observed them.

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Jobst Brandt

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Jesper Brondum said:

Hi

My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
warranty is therefore gone :-(

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Quoted message said:

Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.

-eric

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Anyone got a solution ?

Yup, this happens all the time with OP rims. A teeny tiny drop of Tri-Flow
on each eyelet will solve the problem for several hundred or more miles.

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Yup, this happens all the time with OP rims. A teeny tiny drop of Tri-Flow
on each eyelet will solve the problem for several hundred or more miles.

Ditto. This method solved my click also. Careful not to put too much as
it will eventually get in to the rim tape and tube and could cause a
flat. Been there, done that.

A little dab'll do 'ya.

Chris Nelson said:

Quoted message said:

Yup, this happens all the time with OP rims. A teeny tiny drop of
Tri-Flow on each eyelet will solve the problem for several hundred
or more miles.

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Ditto. This method solved my click also. Careful not to put too much
as it will eventually get in to the rim tape and tube and could
cause a flat. Been there, done that.

My experience is that the next wet ride washes the lubricant away and
the clicking returns. For this reason eyelets in rims should be
stainless steel as they are in some models.

Jobst Brandt

Eric Hill said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Jesper Brondum said:

Hi

My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
warranty is therefore gone :-(

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.

I have built probably 300-400 wheels in the past 4 years using Velocity
rims. I have seen one failure(split rim at spoke hole) and that was
warrantied immediately...so My expereince is VERY positive about
Velocity rims.

Aero, Aerohead,Razor, Escape, Fusion, Deep V, Synergy, Dyad...I have
built with them all with great results. Now RBR may be talking about
their wheel, which are no better than any out of a box.

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-eric

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Jesper Brondum wrote:
>My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
>warranty is therefore gone :-(

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

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Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

Quoted message said:

Eric Hill said:

Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

I have built probably 300-400 wheels in the past 4 years using Velocity
rims. I have seen one failure(split rim at spoke hole) and that was
warrantied immediately...so My expereince is VERY positive about
Velocity rims.

Aero, Aerohead,Razor, Escape, Fusion, Deep V, Synergy, Dyad...I have
built with them all with great results. Now RBR may be talking about
their wheel, which are no better than any out of a box.

We also moved to Velocity Aerohead/OC after the Campagnolo
Montreal was discontinued and our experience is positive. OC
especially means we build a better more durable wheel now.

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org
Open every day since 1 April, 1971

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si parla Campagnolo" <[email hidden]> wrote:

I tried oil, works until I wash the bike :-(

Does "boiled lindseed oil" ( what that is ?) stand for a wash ?

Newer heard of velocity rims, mabye on an US market only brand name ?

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Jesper Brondum said:

Hi

My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
warranty is therefore gone :-(

ie. all my OP rims, satin, black, CD klicks more or less.

It seems that the eyelets not properly pressed, so they start moving
around ... and click.

I examined my old OpenSUP from the mid 90's, and there the eyelets is
pressed properly to the rim.

Anyone got a solution ?

Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

http://www.velocityusa.com

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Jesper

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My experience is that the next wet ride washes the lubricant away and
the clicking returns.

That's exactly what happens on my problem-child-OpenPro. It will even
start clicking after riding through the fog in an early morning ride.

Tom

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My experience is that the next wet ride washes the lubricant

away and

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the clicking returns.

That's exactly what happens on my problem-child-OpenPro. It

will even

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start clicking after riding through the fog in an early morning

ride.

Do like I did and put those wheels on a Cannondale. All of the
clicks just blend together -- like riding through a field of
crickets. -- Jay Beattie.

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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Eric Hill said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Jesper Brondum wrote:

>Hi
>
>My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
>warranty is therefore gone :-(

<snip>

Quoted message said:

Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.

I have built probably 300-400 wheels in the past 4 years using Velocity
rims. I have seen one failure(split rim at spoke hole) and that was
warrantied immediately...so My expereince is VERY positive about
Velocity rims.

Aero, Aerohead,Razor, Escape, Fusion, Deep V, Synergy, Dyad...I have
built with them all with great results. Now RBR may be talking about
their wheel, which are no better than any out of a box.

The Velocity site is short on details. Their "razor" looks like
the kind of rim that suits me with box construction and silver
finish. Does the razor have double eyelets? What is the precise
nature of the finish? (for me, none is best). What is the width?
(23-28 mm tires).
Thanks.

I like my Torelli Masters, but they are not made anymore.
Ambrosios are not available in the USA.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press asserted:

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Ambrosios are not available in the USA.

You can get ambrosios via www.ital-tecno.com.

App

Michael Press said:

The Velocity site is short on details. Their "razor" looks like
the kind of rim that suits me with box construction and silver
finish. Does the razor have double eyelets? What is the precise
nature of the finish? (for me, none is best). What is the width?
(23-28 mm tires).

Single eyelet, similar finish to a silver Open Pro, 22mm width. Any
tire that the frame can handle.

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Thanks.

I like my Torelli Masters, but they are not made anymore.
Ambrosios are not available in the USA.

--
Michael Press

Michael Press said:

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Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

Eric Hill said:

Qui si parla Campagnolo wrote:

>Jesper Brondum wrote:
>
>
>>Hi
>>
>>My problem is that my OP rims is clicking, afther a year or so, and the
>>warranty is therefore gone :-(

<snip>

>Common problem. get a small dropper of boiled lindseed oil, a drop on
>each eyelet/nipple area. If still clicks, it's the wedge they use to
>hold the rim together while they weld it. A teeny hole drilled there
>and fill with some sort of glue. I agree, poor show for these not cheap
>rims. Next time look at Velocity rims...better deal all around.

Okay, now I'm going to have to ask a question about the mixed reviews
I've been getting about Velocity's. Very popular with the fixie crowd,
but I've heard of issues with their durability. Without trudging into
roadbikereview, I'd like to figure out what the hay is going on here.

I have built probably 300-400 wheels in the past 4 years using Velocity
rims. I have seen one failure(split rim at spoke hole) and that was
warrantied immediately...so My expereince is VERY positive about
Velocity rims.

Aero, Aerohead,Razor, Escape, Fusion, Deep V, Synergy, Dyad...I have
built with them all with great results. Now RBR may be talking about
their wheel, which are no better than any out of a box.

The Velocity site is short on details. Their "razor" looks like
the kind of rim that suits me with box construction and silver
finish. Does the razor have double eyelets? What is the precise
nature of the finish? (for me, none is best). What is the width?
(23-28 mm tires).
Thanks.

http://velocityusa.com/rim-diagrams.php gives dimension details. It
would be nice to have the inner flange width though. I did contact them
in the past and found out that

- Deep V 13.2 mm
- Aerohead 14.0 mm
- Aero 13.35 mm

For comparison old MA2s have 13.5 inside dimension, and Open Pro has
14.5! This surprised me, and indicates that an Open Pro can take a
bigger tire best.

Wayne