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  1. Ok ... the commentators are giving all the speeds in km/hr ... i was doing the conversion on the
    times for stage 7 ... 230.5 km ... done in 6 hours 6 minutes ... come out with an average of 37.8
    km/hr ... convert it to real speeds;-) you get 23.5mph for the longest stage with the most brutal
    climbs ... is that right?? I know these guys cook going down hill ... but I don't care how fast you
    go down ... unless your up hills are fast your average sucks ... how fast ARE they climbing anyway??

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  2. smiles said:

    Ok ... the commentators are giving all the speeds in km/hr ... i was doing the conversion on the
    times for stage 7 ... 230.5 km ... done in 6 hours 6 minutes ... come out with an average of 37.8
    km/hr ... convert it to real speeds;-) you get 23.5mph for the longest stage with the most brutal
    climbs ... is that right?? I know these guys cook going down hill ... but I don't care how fast
    you go down ... unless your up hills are fast your average sucks ... how fast ARE they climbing
    anyway??

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    s boardnbike.comboardnbike.com

    It should be easy to find #s for the final climb up d'Huez, and calculate average speed.

    My WAG is that they're climbing these 7%-ers at about 15 mph, twice what I climb the typical 7%-er.

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  3. Look at the Ferrari diaries on CN -- he talks about climbing rates there:

    cyclingnews.comtour03

    Raptor said:
    smiles said:

    Ok ... the commentators are giving all the speeds in km/hr ... i was doing the conversion on the
    times for stage 7 ... 230.5 km ... done in 6 hours 6 minutes ... come out with an average of 37.8
    km/hr ... convert it to real speeds;-) you get 23.5mph for the longest stage with the most brutal
    climbs ... is that right?? I know these guys cook going down hill ... but I don't care how fast
    you go down ... unless your up hills are fast your average sucks ... how fast ARE they climbing
    anyway??

    --
    s boardnbike.comboardnbike.com

    It should be easy to find #s for the final climb up d'Huez, and calculate average speed.

    My WAG is that they're climbing these 7%-ers at about 15 mph, twice what I climb the
    typical 7%-er.

  4. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Daniel Connelly
    [B]> It should be easy to find #s for the final climb up d'Huez, and calculate average speed.

    Quoted message said:


    My WAG is that they're climbing these 7%-ers at about 15 mph, twice what I climb the
    typical 7%-er. [/B]

    [/quote]

    Alpe d'Huez climb is 13.8km.

    Pantani's record time is 37 minutes which makes his average 14.0mph.

    Mayo's time this year is 39'05" = 13.2mph.

  5. Daniel Connelly said:

    Look at the Ferrari diaries on CN -- he talks about climbing rates there:

    cyclingnews.comtour03

    "Iban Mayo climbed the final ascent in 39:05 (VAM of 1735 m/h)"

    What's that unit? 1.735 kilometers per hour? I don't think so.

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    could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP in
    charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

  6. "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Daniel Connelly said:

    Look at the Ferrari diaries on CN -- he talks about climbing rates there:

    cyclingnews.comtour03

    "Iban Mayo climbed the final ascent in 39:05 (VAM of 1735 m/h)"

    What's that unit? 1.735 kilometers per hour? I don't think so.

    I guess that's the average speed of his pedalling.

  7. "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Daniel Connelly said:

    Look at the Ferrari diaries on CN -- he talks about climbing rates there:

    cyclingnews.comtour03

    "Iban Mayo climbed the final ascent in 39:05 (VAM of 1735 m/h)"

    What's that unit? 1.735 kilometers per hour? I don't think so.


    Vertical metres per hour. Explaination here:

    cyclingnews.cominterviews

    It's a good way for folks to work out the strength of the rider on any climb without knowing their
    power output/weight/heartrate/whatever. Simoni on the Zoncolan this year was in the 1700's I
    think, which means he would have been competitive on the climbs in this Tour had he been at his
    best - Lance and
    co. were in the 1600's on Alpe d'Huez.

    The Giro seemed to have taken it out of Simoni, but his confidence coming into the Tour is
    understandable. Whether it was a good idea to talk about it is another question that has been
    discussed in other threads.

    Jeff

  8. 1735 meters gained per hour.

    "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Daniel Connelly said:

    Look at the Ferrari diaries on CN -- he talks about climbing rates there:

    cyclingnews.comtour03

    "Iban Mayo climbed the final ascent in 39:05 (VAM of 1735 m/h)"

    What's that unit? 1.735 kilometers per hour? I don't think so.

    --
    --
    Lynn Wallace xmission.com~lawall "I'm not proud. We really haven't done everything we
    could to protect our customers. Our products just aren't engineered for security." --Microsoft VP
    in charge of Windows OS Development, Brian Valentine.

  9. Vertical meters.

    "Thach H Nguyen" <e5oteric@yahoo!.com> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Raptor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message


    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Daniel Connelly said:

    Look at the Ferrari diaries on CN -- he talks about climbing rates there:

    cyclingnews.comtour03

    "Iban Mayo climbed the final ascent in 39:05 (VAM of 1735 m/h)"

    What's that unit? 1.735 kilometers per hour? I don't think so.

    I guess that's the average speed of his pedalling.

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