Massage Reduces DOMS

JMW said:

Bill Davidson is alleged to have a new IP address, but I won't add
that one until it's confirmed by further trolling on his part.

Bully for you, dipshit. Oh, btw, it *has* been confirmed that you're a
boring dullard.

I THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW!

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Curt James said:

JMW said:

Bill Davidson is alleged to have a new IP address, but I won't add
that one until it's confirmed by further trolling on his part.

Bully for you, dipshit. Oh, btw, it *has* been confirmed that you're a
boring dullard.

I THOUGHT YOU'D LIKE TO KNOW!

If you're capable of discussing any other topic, what do YOU think about
the benefits of massage, Curt?

Dally

Dally said:

If you're capable of discussing any other topic, what do YOU think about
the benefits of massage, Curt?

<two-year-old>

"He started it."

</two-year-old>

Massage is wonderfu in generall. I have _Massage Basics_ by Davide
Sechi on my bookshelf. I have suffered from DOMS from cross country
running as well as from weight training, however I've never battled
muscle soreness with massage. A hot shower and rest has always worked
for me, but certainly - it seems obvious - massage would make sore
muscles feel better.

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aeioufu said:

JMW said:

A recently published study from a university in Western Australia
indicates that ten minutes of massage, a half-hour after heavy
eccentric resistance training:

[1] Significantly reduces delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS);
[2] Significantly reduces plamsa creatine kinase (CK) levels; and
[3] Significantly reduces inflammatory response (swelling).

No significant difference in recovery time, though. It just makes it
hurt less in the meantime.

Zainuddin Z, Newton M, Sacco P, Nosaka K. Effects of massage on
delayed-onset muscle soreness, swelling, and recovery of muscle
function. J Athl Train. 2005 Jul;40(3):174-80.

Just thought I'd share that with you.

Please stop sharing. Please just repost the troll faq.

Thanks

http://www.fitnwell.net/mfw_troll_filter_faq.htm

HTH!

On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:57:42 -0500, JMW <[email hidden]> wrote in
misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

A recently published study from a university in Western Australia
indicates that ten minutes of massage, a half-hour after heavy
eccentric resistance training:

[1] Significantly reduces delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS);
[2] Significantly reduces plamsa creatine kinase (CK) levels; and
[3] Significantly reduces inflammatory response (swelling).

No significant difference in recovery time, though. It just makes it
hurt less in the meantime.

Zainuddin Z, Newton M, Sacco P, Nosaka K. Effects of massage on
delayed-onset muscle soreness, swelling, and recovery of muscle
function. J Athl Train. 2005 Jul;40(3):174-80.

Just thought I'd share that with you.

I got a Dr. Scholl's Full Cushion massager for Christmas that I'm
trying out as I type this. My hamstrings are sore from the 5 sets of
5 back squats I did on Monday. That was the first time I had done
that in quite a while so I guess it is to be expected.

The massager is shaped like a car seat cover and has 4 sets of
massaging heads as well as a heating element. It also comes with a
12V cigarette lighter plug but I don't know if it would be a good
thing to use while driving. I could see myself dozing off at the
wheel.

In article <[email hidden]>,

JMW said:

A recently published study from a university in Western Australia
indicates that ten minutes of massage, a half-hour after heavy
eccentric resistance training:

[1] Significantly reduces delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS);

Interesting. That makes two things.

The other is a lesser workout (I use 50% weights, and fewer reps) the
next day. That works very well against the DOMS I get when I start
lifting after too long a layoff. (That's basically the only time I
get DOMS so I don't know how well it would work other times.)

Seth
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:57:42 -0500, JMW <[email hidden]> wrote in
misc.fitness.weights:

Quoted message said:

A recently published study from a university in Western Australia
indicates that ten minutes of massage, a half-hour after heavy
eccentric resistance training:

[1] Significantly reduces delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS);
[2] Significantly reduces plamsa creatine kinase (CK) levels; and
[3] Significantly reduces inflammatory response (swelling).

No significant difference in recovery time, though. It just makes it
hurt less in the meantime.

Zainuddin Z, Newton M, Sacco P, Nosaka K. Effects of massage on
delayed-onset muscle soreness, swelling, and recovery of muscle
function. J Athl Train. 2005 Jul;40(3):174-80.

Just thought I'd share that with you.

I got a Dr. Scholl's Full Cushion massager for Christmas that I'm
trying out as I type this. My hamstrings are sore from the 5 sets of
5 back squats I did on Monday. That was the first time I had done
that in quite a while so I guess it is to be expected.

The massager is shaped like a car seat cover and has 4 sets of
massaging heads as well as a heating element. It also comes with a
12V cigarette lighter plug but I don't know if it would be a good
thing to use while driving. I could see myself dozing off at the
wheel.

Sounds sweet. But what have you been doing for a routine, that 5x5 squats
are making you sore?

Hugh

--
Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
chocolate. ("Ladi"😉

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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:53:47 GMT, Hugh Beyer <[email hidden]>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

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John Hanson <[email hidden]> wrote in
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On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:57:42 -0500, JMW <[email hidden]> wrote in
misc.fitness.weights:

>A recently published study from a university in Western Australia
>indicates that ten minutes of massage, a half-hour after heavy
>eccentric resistance training:
>
>[1] Significantly reduces delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS);
>[2] Significantly reduces plamsa creatine kinase (CK) levels; and
>[3] Significantly reduces inflammatory response (swelling).
>
>No significant difference in recovery time, though. It just makes it
>hurt less in the meantime.
>
>Zainuddin Z, Newton M, Sacco P, Nosaka K. Effects of massage on
>delayed-onset muscle soreness, swelling, and recovery of muscle
>function. J Athl Train. 2005 Jul;40(3):174-80.
>
>Just thought I'd share that with you.

I got a Dr. Scholl's Full Cushion massager for Christmas that I'm
trying out as I type this. My hamstrings are sore from the 5 sets of
5 back squats I did on Monday. That was the first time I had done
that in quite a while so I guess it is to be expected.

The massager is shaped like a car seat cover and has 4 sets of
massaging heads as well as a heating element. It also comes with a
12V cigarette lighter plug but I don't know if it would be a good
thing to use while driving. I could see myself dozing off at the
wheel.

Sounds sweet. But what have you been doing for a routine, that 5x5
squats are making you sore?

I'm not sure what you mean. I just started back with back squats a
few weeks ago. Monday I did 5X5 at 285 (ATG and within less than 15
minutes I completed all my sets...I was dripping sweat like a French
[censored]) for the first time in a while. I've only back squatted a few
times since August. I finished my Russian front squat routine more
than a month ago so I haven't been doing a lot of squatting of any
type in the meantime which is the cause of the soreness.

I haven't been following... missed the whole Russian front squat routine
thing. I have you pegged as a powerlifter, so why the front squats?

Hugh

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Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
chocolate. ("Ladi"😉

On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:01:17 GMT, Hugh Beyer <[email hidden]>
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:53:47 GMT, Hugh Beyer <[email hidden]>
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John Hanson <[email hidden]> wrote in
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> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:57:42 -0500, JMW <[email hidden]> wrote in
> misc.fitness.weights:
>
>>A recently published study from a university in Western Australia
>>indicates that ten minutes of massage, a half-hour after heavy
>>eccentric resistance training:
>>
>>[1] Significantly reduces delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS);
>>[2] Significantly reduces plamsa creatine kinase (CK) levels; and
>>[3] Significantly reduces inflammatory response (swelling).
>>
>>No significant difference in recovery time, though. It just makes it
>>hurt less in the meantime.
>>
>>Zainuddin Z, Newton M, Sacco P, Nosaka K. Effects of massage on
>>delayed-onset muscle soreness, swelling, and recovery of muscle
>>function. J Athl Train. 2005 Jul;40(3):174-80.
>>
>>Just thought I'd share that with you.
>
> I got a Dr. Scholl's Full Cushion massager for Christmas that I'm
> trying out as I type this. My hamstrings are sore from the 5 sets of
> 5 back squats I did on Monday. That was the first time I had done
> that in quite a while so I guess it is to be expected.
>
> The massager is shaped like a car seat cover and has 4 sets of
> massaging heads as well as a heating element. It also comes with a
> 12V cigarette lighter plug but I don't know if it would be a good
> thing to use while driving. I could see myself dozing off at the
> wheel.

Sounds sweet. But what have you been doing for a routine, that 5x5
squats are making you sore?

I'm not sure what you mean. I just started back with back squats a
few weeks ago. Monday I did 5X5 at 285 (ATG and within less than 15
minutes I completed all my sets...I was dripping sweat like a French
[censored]) for the first time in a while. I've only back squatted a few
times since August. I finished my Russian front squat routine more
than a month ago so I haven't been doing a lot of squatting of any
type in the meantime which is the cause of the soreness.

I haven't been following... missed the whole Russian front squat routine
thing. I have you pegged as a powerlifter, so why the front squats?

"Pegged"?

Anywho, apparently you missed my numerous rib (and disk, on occasion)
posts about them being out of place or laying on top of one another. I
had to back out of the Twin Cities Open because of it. I then
proceeded to train legs with just front squats 3 days a week and
deadlifts every other week. Turns out it was the hand placement on
the bar while deadlifting that was popping my ribs out of place which
I did again in November. So, in answer to your question, because I
could do them.

Hugh Beyer <[email hidden]> wrote:
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John Hanson <[email hidden]> wrote:

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Russian front squat routine

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I have you pegged as a powerlifter, so why the front squats?

Lots of powerlifters do assist work, front squats, overhead presses,
etc. I'm a longtime fan of powerlifting. Bill Kazmaier was famous for
his physique nearly as much as his feats of strength.

http://kazmaier3.150m.com/training.htm

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On Sat, 31 Dec 2005 04:01:17 GMT, Hugh Beyer <[email hidden]>
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On Fri, 30 Dec 2005 18:53:47 GMT, Hugh Beyer <[email hidden]>
wrote in misc.fitness.weights:

>John Hanson <[email hidden]> wrote in
>news:[email hidden]:
>
>> On Tue, 27 Dec 2005 00:57:42 -0500, JMW <[email hidden]> wrote in
>> misc.fitness.weights:
>>
>>>A recently published study from a university in Western Australia
>>>indicates that ten minutes of massage, a half-hour after heavy
>>>eccentric resistance training:
>>>
>>>[1] Significantly reduces delayed onset muscle soreness (DOMS);
>>>[2] Significantly reduces plamsa creatine kinase (CK) levels; and
>>>[3] Significantly reduces inflammatory response (swelling).
>>>
>>>No significant difference in recovery time, though. It just makes

it

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>>>hurt less in the meantime.
>>>
>>>Zainuddin Z, Newton M, Sacco P, Nosaka K. Effects of massage on
>>>delayed-onset muscle soreness, swelling, and recovery of muscle
>>>function. J Athl Train. 2005 Jul;40(3):174-80.
>>>
>>>Just thought I'd share that with you.
>>
>> I got a Dr. Scholl's Full Cushion massager for Christmas that I'm
>> trying out as I type this. My hamstrings are sore from the 5 sets

of

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

>> 5 back squats I did on Monday. That was the first time I had done
>> that in quite a while so I guess it is to be expected.
>>
>> The massager is shaped like a car seat cover and has 4 sets of
>> massaging heads as well as a heating element. It also comes with a
>> 12V cigarette lighter plug but I don't know if it would be a good
>> thing to use while driving. I could see myself dozing off at the
>> wheel.
>
>Sounds sweet. But what have you been doing for a routine, that 5x5
>squats are making you sore?
>

I'm not sure what you mean. I just started back with back squats a
few weeks ago. Monday I did 5X5 at 285 (ATG and within less than 15
minutes I completed all my sets...I was dripping sweat like a French
[censored]) for the first time in a while. I've only back squatted a few
times since August. I finished my Russian front squat routine more
than a month ago so I haven't been doing a lot of squatting of any
type in the meantime which is the cause of the soreness.

I haven't been following... missed the whole Russian front squat routine
thing. I have you pegged as a powerlifter, so why the front squats?

"Pegged"?

Anywho, apparently you missed my numerous rib (and disk, on occasion)
posts about them being out of place or laying on top of one another. I
had to back out of the Twin Cities Open because of it. I then
proceeded to train legs with just front squats 3 days a week and
deadlifts every other week. Turns out it was the hand placement on
the bar while deadlifting that was popping my ribs out of place which
I did again in November. So, in answer to your question, because I
could do them.

Oh yeah. Duh. Congratulations on getting back to back squats.

Hugb

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Exercise is a dirty word. Whenever I hear it, I wash my mouth out with
chocolate. ("Ladi"😉