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  1. Hi goodley and knowledgeable folks! I'm fitting the new seals and bushings to my '02 MXR coil
    Bombers today at lunch time (couple of hours from now), and I figure I'll be able to work most
    things out. However, I notice there is a bolt inside the bottom of one leg of the lowers that needs
    to be undone for me to be able to remove the lowers, but, on the other leg, is the rebound
    adjustment knob;

    Does that need to come off? How do I get it off? How do I release the lowers from the uppers
    on this leg?

    Any tips/notes/suggestions or tricks to make this job go smoothly and quickly, _please_, gimme a
    shout as soon as you can!

    As ever, thanks muchly in advance!

    Shaun aRe

  2. Dang, SR, I'd love to help you out, but I know absolutely nothing about the subject! ;-(

    Good Luck, though.....

    STeve

  3. I know heaps about these fork but choose not to indugle you.
    Why, becoz whenever I ask something you flame me, and others so go [censored] yourself!

    Now who has the better witt?:eek:

    I'm sure you'll retort in some way but like I give a [censored]!!
    🙄

  4. "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi goodley and knowledgeable folks! I'm fitting the new seals and bushings to my '02 MXR coil
    Bombers today at lunch time (couple of hours from now), and I figure I'll be able to work most
    things out. However, I notice there is a bolt inside the bottom of one leg of the lowers that
    needs to be


    undone

    Quoted message said:

    for me to be able to remove the lowers, but, on the other leg, is the rebound adjustment knob;

    Does that need to come off? How do I get it off? How do I release the


    lowers

    Quoted message said:

    from the uppers on this leg?

    Any tips/notes/suggestions or tricks to make this job go smoothly and quickly, _please_, gimme a
    shout as soon as you can!

    As ever, thanks muchly in advance!

    Shaun aRe

    According to the .pdf directions from marzocchimtb.comindex.html you release
    the knob by pressing a small screwdriver in a hole on the lower inside of the fork leg (just behind
    the dropout) and pull the knob and retainer off the shaft. Then use a 15mm deep socket to remove the
    leg retaining nut.

    Mike

  5. Shaun Rimmer said:

    Hi goodley and knowledgeable folks! I'm fitting the new seals and bushings to my '02 MXR coil
    Bombers today at lunch time (couple of hours from now), and I figure I'll be able to work most
    things out. However, I notice there is a bolt inside the bottom of one leg of the lowers that
    needs to be undone for me to be able to remove the lowers, but, on the other leg, is the rebound
    adjustment knob;

    Does that need to come off? How do I get it off? How do I release the lowers from the uppers on
    this leg?

    Any tips/notes/suggestions or tricks to make this job go smoothly and quickly, _please_, gimme a
    shout as soon as you can!

    As ever, thanks muchly in advance!

    Shaun aRe


    Hit Marzocchi's site and look for their service manuals. They will walk you through complete
    dissasembly/reassembly.

  6. Stephen Baker <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Dang, SR, I'd love to help you out, but I know absolutely nothing about


    the

    Quoted message said:

    subject! ;-(

    Quoted message said:

    Good Luck, though.....

    I needed it too:

    Took wheel off, removed pads from calliper, took top caps, springs and oil out of forks this
    morning, ready for the job at lunch time....

    Lunch time:

    I got the 15 mm socket, and undid the retaining nut from inside (recessed by a couple of inches) one
    of the lowers - no worries. Couldn't find the other one, because there's this little rebound adjust
    know on the other side.......

    Finally, after much careful thought and deliberation (pissing about), I realised the knob 'pulls
    off', to reveal the shaft it attaches to, and the other nut, again, set inside the tube. This nut
    has the shaft coming out the centre of it, 3 or 4 inches long.

    'There ain't no way I'm getting that thing off with a 15 mm socket', thunk I to meself, and of
    course, I was right.

    So, off to search for an extra long 15mm 'box key' jobby......no such

    Right, I gets meself an old 15mm socket, and a section of 3-4 mm mild steel rod, and I weld the
    buggers to each other, then bend the rod into a right angle part way up. Now, this little beastie
    does the job, and I remove the lowers.

    Using a big screwdriver and a big hammer, I gently prise ('[censored]'😉 the dust seals, then the oil seals
    (after using needle nose pliers to gently remove the retaining clips), out of their little homes,
    and clean inside the tubes.

    Then, I remove the two big washers/spacers from on top of the bushings/sleeves, and using a metal
    rod through the holes in the bottoms of the sliders, I carefully push out the old bushings/sleeves -
    new ones go in easy. Drop washers back on top.

    Get new oil seals, cover 'em in fork oil, and gently press ('[censored]'😉 the oil seals in with a big
    hammer and a section of steel tubing the right diameter. They go in no problems, as does the first
    of the dust seals (for these, I used the big hammer and the old dust seals to seat them). Second
    dust seal goes in '[censored]-eyed', and I can't get it out to put it back in flat without screwing it up,
    so, I just have to keep encouraging ('twatting'😉 it into place. Finally, it's more or less seated,
    albeit in less than prime condition (sealing parts are OK though).

    I'm now ready to re-assemble upper and lower parts, when I notice a little 'O' ring on the floor. I
    find out it's fallen from the bottom of one of the sliders, around the bolt hole - other is still in
    place. I put this 'O' ring on the nut, and start putting stuff together.

    A bit of fiddling with the nuts (eh!) because they don't want to catch their threads, and I've got
    everything back together.

    Put in oil, put in springs, put on one top cap....whoops! Forgot to put the little tube and big
    washer in there for the pre-load to act on, back off with it, bits in, back on with it, back on with
    the other, re-fit brake pads, drop wheel in, tighten QR, set pre-load, set rebound, push bike
    outside. Check, yup! Everything feels right, good as can be.

    Come back in to clean up, I'm only 15 minutes over due to finish my lunch, so not too much of a rush
    eh? Heh, right, get nearly everything cleaned up, all tools back in place and stuff, when what
    should I find on the floor?

    Gonna have to see if one of the fork legs is leaking from underneath in a bit - have to strip 'em
    down again, maybe tonight to put that little [censored] back in place......

    Anyhow, now that I know what tools I need, and what to do/look out for, I can honestly say, the job
    is a piece of [censored]. First time blind attempt though? An hour and a half isn't enough time to do it
    unhurriedly, and smoothly get it right.

    Anyone comes to do this job and has any questions, just give me a shout! Heheheheh.......

    Shaun aRe

    P.s. - Forks in question are, specifically, '02 Marzocchi MXR coil/oil, 100mm SSVF thingies.

  7. Michael Dart <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi goodley and knowledgeable folks! I'm fitting the new seals and


    bushings

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to my '02 MXR coil Bombers today at lunch time (couple of hours from


    now),

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and I figure I'll be able to work most things out. However, I notice


    there

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is a bolt inside the bottom of one leg of the lowers that needs to be


    undone

    Quoted message said:

    for me to be able to remove the lowers, but, on the other leg, is the rebound adjustment knob;

    Does that need to come off? How do I get it off? How do I release the


    lowers

    Quoted message said:

    from the uppers on this leg?

    Any tips/notes/suggestions or tricks to make this job go smoothly and quickly, _please_, gimme a
    shout as soon as you can!

    As ever, thanks muchly in advance!

    Shaun aRe

    According to the .pdf directions from marzocchimtb.comindex.html you
    release the knob by pressing a small screwdriver in a hole on the lower inside of the fork leg
    (just behind the dropout) and pull the knob and retainer off the shaft. Then use a 15mm deep
    socket to remove the leg retaining nut.

    Mike

    Done it now Mike (errmmm, sort of!), thanks - see my 'update' reply to Baker. Oh, and every time I
    check that manual, all I can find is what is in my own manual - nothing about
    assembly/disassembly?!?!?!?!?

    Will look again ta!

    Shaun aRe

  8. roKeMS <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I know heaps about these fork but choose not to indugle you.

    I've done it now anyhow.

    Quoted message said:

    Why, becoz whenever I ask something you flame me, and others so go [censored] yourself!

    Don't be a [censored]. I have never flamed you for asking a question. I've flamed you for being an
    ignorant, childish, brainless, imbecilic little consucker of an arsewipe, but never for asking a
    bike realated question. Next.

    Quoted message said:

    Now who has the better witt?:eek:

    Me.

    Quoted message said:

    I'm sure you'll retort in some way but like I give a [censored]!! 🙄

    sad-sack.

    Shaun aRe - HTH, HAND!

  9. Shaun Rimmer <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Michael Dart <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi goodley and knowledgeable folks! I'm fitting the new seals and


    bushings

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to my '02 MXR coil Bombers today at lunch time (couple of hours from


    now),

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and I figure I'll be able to work most things out. However, I notice


    there

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is a bolt inside the bottom of one leg of the lowers that needs to be


    undone

    Quoted message said:

    for me to be able to remove the lowers, but, on the other leg, is the rebound adjustment knob;

    Does that need to come off? How do I get it off? How do I release the


    lowers

    Quoted message said:

    from the uppers on this leg?

    Any tips/notes/suggestions or tricks to make this job go smoothly and quickly, _please_, gimme
    a shout as soon as you can!

    As ever, thanks muchly in advance!

    Shaun aRe

    According to the .pdf directions from marzocchimtb.comindex.html you
    release the knob


    by

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    pressing a small screwdriver in a hole on the lower inside of the fork


    leg

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    (just behind the dropout) and pull the knob and retainer off the shaft. Then use a 15mm deep
    socket to remove the leg retaining nut.

    Mike

    Done it now Mike (errmmm, sort of!), thanks - see my 'update' reply to Baker. Oh, and every time I
    check that manual, all I can find is what is


    in

    Quoted message said:

    my own manual - nothing about assembly/disassembly?!?!?!?!?

    Will look again ta!

    Shaun aRe

    Just took a look - the MXR air is there, but not the coil. Similar for all intents and purposes, is
    the '01 Z3 though, so I now got that filed - cheers!

    Shaun aRe

  10. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Shaun Rimmer

    Quoted message said:

    Now who has the better witt?:eek:

    Me.
    Shaun aRe - HTH, HAND! [/B]

    Nope - just a stereotype - try again.

  11. "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Stephen Baker <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Dang, SR, I'd love to help you out, but I know absolutely nothing about


    the

    Quoted message said:

    subject! ;-(


    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Good Luck, though.....

    I needed it too:

    <snip>

    ROFLMAO! Same thing happened to me on Sunday. Took the fork lowers off, took the bottom out
    elatomers off, cleaned and re-greased everything, re-assembled and fitted back on the bike. T'was
    then I noticed a small ball-bearing on the workbench. WTF? Downloaded the service manual and found
    out its a "detent ball". I have no idea what it does but I had to re-strp the fork to put it back in
    a little dimple just in case..

    Steve E.

  12. roKeMS <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun Rimmer said:
    Quoted message said:

    Now who has the better witt?:eek:


    Me.Shaun aRe - HTH, HAND!

    Nope - just a stereotype - try again.

    You wouldn't know a stereotype if it had 'Technics' written all over it ya stupid [censored]. You're even
    too daft to realise when you're making a fool of yourself and being stepped all over,
    heheheheheh...........

    Shaun aRe - keep coming back for more, see how long it takes for it to sink in how daft
    you're being.

  13. spademan o---[) * <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    "Shaun Rimmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:


    Stephen Baker <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Dang, SR, I'd love to help you out, but I know absolutely nothing


    about

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    the

    Quoted message said:

    subject! ;-(


    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:


    Quoted message said:

    Good Luck, though.....

    I needed it too:

    <snip>

    ROFLMAO! Same thing happened to me on Sunday. Took the fork lowers off,


    took

    Quoted message said:

    the bottom out elatomers off,

    You have freaking _elastomers_ in your forks? WTF?!?!?

    Quoted message said:

    cleaned and re-greased everything, re-assembled and fitted back on the bike. T'was then I noticed
    a small ball-bearing on the workbench. WTF? Downloaded the service manual and


    found

    Quoted message said:

    out its a "detent ball". I have no idea what it does but I had to re-strp the fork to put it back
    in a little dimple just in case..

    It's to give a positive 'notching' action to the adjuster.

    Shaun aRe - gonna strip the forks at Kath's dad's factory unit tonight and put that little seal back
    in - only minimal leakage so far......

    Shaun aRe

  14. Quoted post said:

    Originally posted by Shaun Rimmer

    Quoted message said:

    Nope - just a stereotype - try again.

    You wouldn't know a stereotype if it had 'Technics' written all over it ya stupid [censored]. You're even
    too daft to realise when you're making a fool of yourself and being stepped all over,
    heheheheheh...........

    Shaun aRe - keep coming back for more, see how long it takes for it to sink in how daft
    you're being. [/B]

    It's good that you can think so highly of yourself when you witt is slower than a snail at a time trial.

    Stept all over? I think not. Get your head out the clouds, if your witt was as funny and retorical as you say we'd be buying tickets to your show.
    But we aint. And won't. Scalpers would make a loss on that one, in fact they wouldn't risk it.

    Daft is when you make personal comments coz you can't think of anything clever to say like this sentence and you.

  15. A little late and without reading properly said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi goodley and knowledgeable folks! I'm fitting the new seals and


    bushings

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to my '02 MXR coil Bombers today at lunch time (couple of hours from


    now),

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and I figure I'll be able to work most things out. However, I notice


    there

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is a bolt inside the bottom of one leg of the lowers that needs to be


    undone

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for me to be able to remove the lowers, but, on the other leg, is the rebound adjustment knob;

    Does that need to come off? How do I get it off? How do I release the


    lowers

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from the uppers on this leg?

    Any tips/notes/suggestions or tricks to make this job go smoothly and quickly, _please_, gimme a
    shout as soon as you can!

    As ever, thanks muchly in advance!

    Shaun aRe

    Quoted message said:


    I assume you have a MXC ECC because the regular MXC didn't come with a rebound adjuster on it.

    I have an '02 _MXR_ SSVF, coil and oil, 100 mm of travel, not an MXC. Geeze, some people! ',;~}~

    Quoted message said:

    The knob ont he bottom is set in a plactic cap, just pry it out. Once you do that you'll see
    there's a foot nut in there just like on the other side except that it has a doo-dad on it to tie
    into the knob so you need a socket that can deal with this.

    Yup - found all this out and done the job - posted the update yesterday afternoon.

    Cheers anyhow Chris ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe

  16. roKeMS <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    Shaun Rimmer said:
    Quoted message said:

    Nope - just a stereotype - try again.


    You wouldn't know a stereotype if it had 'Technics' written all over


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ya stupid [censored]. You're even too daft to realise when you're making a fool of yourself and
    being stepped all over, heheheheheh........... Shaun aRe - keep coming back for more, see how
    long it takes for it to sink in how daft you're being.

    It's good that you can think so highly of yourself when you witt is slower than a snail at a
    time trial.

    Stept all over? I think not. Get your head out the clouds, if your witt was as funny and retorical
    as you say we'd be buying tickets to your show. But we aint. And won't. Scalpers would make a loss
    on that one, in fact they wouldn't risk it.

    Daft is when you make personal comments coz you can't think of anything clever to say like this
    sentence and you.

    Heheheheheh - Oh I do love irony ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe - 'It sucks being me'.

  17. Heheheheheh - Oh I do love irony ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe - 'It sucks being me'. It should

    .....hehehe and sarcasm that flies overhead🙄 😄

  18. In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    A little late and without reading properly said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    Hi goodley and knowledgeable folks! I'm fitting the new seals and


    bushings

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    to my '02 MXR coil Bombers today at lunch time (couple of hours from


    now),

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    and I figure I'll be able to work most things out. However, I notice


    there

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is a bolt inside the bottom of one leg of the lowers that needs to be


    undone

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    for me to be able to remove the lowers, but, on the other leg, is the rebound adjustment knob;

    Does that need to come off? How do I get it off? How do I release the


    lowers

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    from the uppers on this leg?

    Any tips/notes/suggestions or tricks to make this job go smoothly and quickly, _please_, gimme
    a shout as soon as you can!

    As ever, thanks muchly in advance!

    Shaun aRe

    Quoted message said:


    I assume you have a MXC ECC because the regular MXC didn't come with a rebound adjuster on it.

    I have an '02 _MXR_ SSVF, coil and oil, 100 mm of travel, not an MXC. Geeze, some people! ',;~}~

    Same difference actually 🙂
    --
    _________________________
    Chris Phillipo - Cape Breton, Nova Scotia ramsays-online.comramsays-online.com

  19. roKeMS <[email hidden]> wrote in message "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Heheheheheh - Oh I do love irony ',;~}~

    Shaun aRe - 'It sucks being me'. It should

    ....hehehe and sarcasm that flies overhead🙄 😄

    One day, maybe, just maybe mind, you'll actually manage to make some sense, heheheheh......

    Shaun aRe

  20. Chris Phillipo <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    "]news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...

    Quoted message said:


    A little late and without reading properly said:

    In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says...
    >
    > Hi goodley and knowledgeable folks! I'm fitting the new seals and


    bushings

    Quoted message said:

    > to my '02 MXR coil Bombers today at lunch time (couple of hours from


    now),

    Quoted message said:

    > and I figure I'll be able to work most things out. However, I notice


    there

    Quoted message said:

    > is a bolt inside the bottom of one leg of the lowers that needs to


    be

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    undone

    Quoted message said:

    > for me to be able to remove the lowers, but, on the other leg, is


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > rebound adjustment knob;
    >
    >
    > Does that need to come off? How do I get it off? How do I release


    the

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    lowers

    Quoted message said:

    > from the uppers on this leg?
    >
    > Any tips/notes/suggestions or tricks to make this job go smoothly


    and

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > quickly, _please_, gimme a shout as soon as you can!
    >
    > As ever, thanks muchly in advance!
    >
    >
    > Shaun aRe

    Quoted message said:


    I assume you have a MXC ECC because the regular MXC didn't come with a rebound adjuster on it.

    I have an '02 _MXR_ SSVF, coil and oil, 100 mm of travel, not an MXC.


    Geeze,

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    some people! ',;~}~

    Same difference actually 🙂

    They're a different fork, with different features, and at a different price. They may have enough
    similarities as far as the basics go to make no difference to changing seals etc, but they are
    certainly not the same fork.

    Oh, so 'ner' ',;~P`````````

    Shaun aRe - '02 MXR coil - non cartridge, coil sprung, oil damped. External pre-load and rebound
    adjust, no ECC.

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