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  1. I'm a David Duffield fan ..........but I thought Kelners article in todays Guardian is excellent.

    One does not wish to be unkind but the thought that crops up when watching cycling on Eurosport - not, I have to admit, a daily occurrence in my case - is forget the riders, what on earth is David Duffield on?

    Duffield, well into his 70s now, is Eurosport's venerable cycling commentator, a former competitor who has been covering bike racing since the birth of the channel, and he expects any day now to complete his first sentence.

    His problem, apparent during last week's Dauphiné Libéré, the 219km stage from Grenoble to Roanne, is that in his mind he is addressing several different audiences: Brits, foreigners, people watching live, those watching recorded highlights, cycling enthusiasts, casual viewers who like looking at pretty pictures of rural France and, I suppose, the odd passing pharmacist interested in the latest developments.

    Duffield will begin by addressing one of these groups, then interrupt himself with an apology to all the others for whom the information is not strictly relevant, and finally lose the thread of what he was trying to say in the first place. It would not be strictly accurate to describe Duffield as the king of the dangling participles but there is definitely something dangling there.

    On the afternoon I was watching he started praising Bradley Wiggins, the British rider wearing the yellow jersey, before remembering the overseas viewers: "Do bear with me if I do get carried away, because I know Eurosport coverage goes to 90 million, er, 99 million . . ." - at this point I am sure he said 99 million countries which, even with the break-up of the old Soviet Union and Eurosport's huge penetration seemed to be overstating the case a little - "and of course we're interested in what Biggins will do. You can understand the bias and what a weekend with the result in formula one." Whether this Biggins he speaks of is Christopher, whom I do not like to think of in Lycra, or some other Biggins, he did not specify.

    "Do bear with me" is one of Duffield's catchphrases, and you know that when he craves forbearance in this way he is about to come out with an absolute pip and it is time to reach for the notepad and pen. Obviously this applies particularly if you are charged with producing a semi-humorous column about sport on TV but is also worth noting if you are one of those people collecting Duffieldisms for one of the various websites dedicated to them.

    "Rough end of a ragman's trumpet" and "blast on the old banjo" are Duffield favourites apparently but I never heard them on that afternoon. Maybe he is saving it all for the Tour de France. "Ooh, steady the bus," as the riders rounded a bend, is the best I can contribute to this valuable internet resource.

    Duffield also has a rather quaint idea of the daytime audience. "Many people watch us in the afternoon," he said. "Women, the kids haven't come home from school yet, and they switch on. Obviously there are cycling specialists wanting to know about the gears and what they had for breakfast . . ."

    And so another thought was left just dangling but I assume what the Duffster was beginning to articulate was that he felt obliged to go through some of the tedious basics of the sport for the benefit of full-time mothers who, briefly and temporarily liberated from maternal duties, would eschew such competing attractions as quiz shows, programmes about people doing up property in Spain, repeats of that ancient detective series with [censored] van Dyke in it, re-reading the poetry of Gerard Manley Hopkins, sitting in an easy chair listening to a favourite album, extra-marital affairs, marital affairs and Steve Wright in the Afternoon, in order to whack on the old Eurosport for stage two of the Critérium du Dauphiné Libéré.

    Yes, they are probably all at it in the suburbs, David. Maybe they combine it with Tupperware parties. Duffield, as ever, was having a party on his own. When he was not going into raptures about the riders - "Look at the faces, guys at work, puffing and panting" - he was marvelling at the pictures these modern cameras were bringing us.

    "Great photography, isn't it?" he enthused. "There are cameras in the helicopters sending the pictures back, and those chaps on the motorcycles, and there's a van just by the finish, and the director has one, two, three, four, five pictures to choose from. This costs a lot of money. It is not like covering football or tennis with static cameras, and I know we do tennis wall-to-wall . . ." where the thought again sort of tailed off, just as the director chose a close-up of a rider's buttocks in full hill-climbing mode - from the arsecam, I expect.

    You can sympathise with Duffield. For the general audience there is not a lot going on in the middle period of a race and the Dufferino comes from a generation that believes in value for money, so he just keeps on commentating.

    And, you pick up some stuff. The riders have radios in their crash helmets, you know, so team managers can convey tactics. Get on your bike and pedal like hell, I should have thought would cover it, but apparently not. It is a highly tactical business. The Tour de France is next, and Duffers is the man to interpret it for us - if, like Paris Hilton, he ever manages to complete a sentence.

  2. I was wondering if someone will make a comment on Duffield's coverage of Dauphine... He was really... I don't know... Lost. Not just these GB-centric comments (it's not that bad, most countries have their own coverage), or phrases or irritating notes... It's not just that... He was lost. He wasn't able to follow the development on the road, he could very rarely recognize riders on attack, his tactics reading was poor...
    But believe me, he's still better than our Eurosport cycling commentator. It's like listening drunk DD without picture on his monitor.
    I've heard D. Harmon and Sean Kelly will be working live comment of TDF and Duffield will be in studio... Better option, no question. But for me and all cycling fans here that means nothing... We'll have to listen to commentator who doesn't know how to pronounce riders' names or names of towns or cols... He can only tell you at the finish who attacked and who dropped, but that's not the worst thing... (while you're watching you see everything and don't rely on comment). The worst is when he tries to translate Eurosport's original comment (obviously he has it in earphones)... You don't want to know how does it sound.
    So, although DD is loosing he's still great comparing with these commentators from non-cycling countries.
    I'm already nervous 'cause I'll be forced to listen to domestic commentary

  3. Someone should do a dope control on David Duffield. Old people are notorious for being on all sorts of 'medications'.

  4. limerickman said:

    I'm a David Duffield fan ..........but I thought Kelners article in todays Guardian is excellent.

    Thanks for that Lim, great article. I got so annoyed watching the D-L and had to turn the sound down. I get fed up shouting at Duffers to shut up and watch the racing, and he's been rambling about nothing and missing the vital attacks on the road for years now. At one point during the last stage of the D-L he started rambling about Zabriske's great ride - Dave Z was second man in the front group of favourites on the last climb. The director cut straight away to the camera at the back of the bunch and we see Dave Z's teammate Gusev clinging on the back. It was so obviously not Zabriske (wrong number, smaller rider, long hair etc etc) and Duffers starts apologising for having praised Dave Z's form. "He's off the back now." How did he get there all of a sudden, Duffers? Did he jump in the air, do a backwards bunny hop and land in last place? I gave up shouting and turned the sound down. He's got so bad at commentary he makes Dave Harmon sound good. 😄

  5. Duffield is a bit of a muppet when it comes to commentating. Espcially when he's on his own. Still, Eurosport does have some good commentators as well. Giro coverage was pretty good, with Sean Kelly as one of the commentators. He knows what he's talking about.

  6. Rolfrae said:

    Thanks for that Lim, great article. I got so annoyed watching the D-L and had to turn the sound down. I get fed up shouting at Duffers to shut up and watch the racing, and he's been rambling about nothing and missing the vital attacks on the road for years now. At one point during the last stage of the D-L he started rambling about Zabriske's great ride - Dave Z was second man in the front group of favourites on the last climb. The director cut straight away to the camera at the back of the bunch and we see Dave Z's teammate Gusev clinging on the back. It was so obviously not Zabriske (wrong number, smaller rider, long hair etc etc) and Duffers starts apologising for having praised Dave Z's form. "He's off the back now." How did he get there all of a sudden, Duffers? Did he jump in the air, do a backwards bunny hop and land in last place? I gave up shouting and turned the sound down. He's got so bad at commentary he makes Dave Harmon sound good. 😄


    [font=Verdana]Oh I did laugh at the article and right you are he constantly gets the riders mixed up and forgets there are other riders up the road and questions out loud why a rider is attacking when they shouldn't be.... I can't understand why they persist with him.... the number of times he can't recognise someone and he just says "the rider from AG2R" or "the rider from T-Mobile"..... but the worst is when he is rabbitting on about the days when they used toeclips and non-quickrelase wheels and a race defining attack unfolds on the screen and he continues with his lame [censored] conversation to himself..... I to turn the sound down….. Dave Harmon is very good thou…..[/font][font=Verdana][/font]

  7. whiteboytrash said:

    [font=Verdana]Oh I did laugh at the article and right you are he constantly gets the riders mixed up and forgets there are other riders up the road and questions out loud why a rider is attacking when they shouldn't be.... I can't understand why they persist with him.... the number of times he can't recognise someone and he just says "the rider from AG2R" or "the rider from T-Mobile"..... but the worst is when he is rabbitting on about the days when they used toeclips and non-quickrelase wheels and a race defining attack unfolds on the screen and he continues with his lame [censored] conversation to himself..... I to turn the sound down….. Dave Harmon is very good thou…..[/font]

    There must be a space in Duffer's mind that is fit to burst with the words of a zillion and one sentences that were never finished! I think they persist with him because he is an institution but I think they should retire him before he becomes institutionalised.

  8. Duffers, who sadly has clearly lost it, often informs us in his usual roundabout way that his commentary goes out to English speakers all over Europe. As his idiosyncratic, discursive style and use of local idioms is frequently baffling to native speakers, I have always wondered how those with English as a second language manage to follow his ramblings. Does he occasionally make sense to those of you who fall into this category?

  9. Gregers said:

    Duffers, who sadly has clearly lost it, often informs us in his usual roundabout way that his commentary goes out to English speakers all over Europe. As his idiosyncratic, discursive style and use of local idioms is frequently baffling to native speakers, I have always wondered how those with English as a second language manage to follow his ramblings. Does he occasionally make sense to those of you who fall into this category?

    English is a foreign language for me, and although Im able to follow his comments more or less, I always watch without sound. Mainly because he almost never comments on whats happening on the road, but all other reasons mentioned here are also valid.

    I felt really sorry for Sean Kelly who had to listen to his ramblings throughout the entire Paris-Roubaix, among other races.

    The other David and Sean are quite good, but could still focus a bit more on whats happening on the road IMO.

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