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  1. http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_bike_trail_vandalism.html?source=mypi

    FULLERTON, Calif. -- Police said they arrested a man who acknowledged
    digging holes on a park bike trail as payback for nearly being run down by a
    cyclist.

    Warren John Wilson, 52, faces a single felony count of vandalism, police
    Sgt. Linda King said Friday.

    King said nearly 50 holes measuring about 1 foot by 2 feet have been found
    since June along a trail at Laguna Lake Park, and in some cases attempts had
    been made to hide them from cyclists. She said some riders went over their
    handlebars after hitting the holes, but none reported major injuries.

    --
    Mike Kruger
    Gravity -- It's not just a good idea. It's the law.

  2. ZBicyclist said:

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_bike_trail_vandalis...

    FULLERTON, Calif. -- Police said they arrested a man who acknowledged
    digging holes on a park bike trail as payback for nearly being run down by a
    cyclist.

    Warren John Wilson, 52, faces a single felony count of vandalism, police
    Sgt. Linda King said Friday.

    King said nearly 50 holes measuring about 1 foot by 2 feet have been found
    since June along a trail at Laguna Lake Park, and in some cases attempts had
    been made to hide them from cyclists. She said some riders went over their
    handlebars after hitting the holes, but none reported major injuries.

    Intent to injure large amounts of cyclists is not vandalism.

  3. Quoted message said:
    ZBicyclist said:

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_bike_trail_vandalis...

    Quoted message said:

    FULLERTON, Calif. -- Police said they arrested a man who acknowledged
    digging holes on a park bike trail as payback for nearly being run down by a
    cyclist.

    Quoted message said:

    Warren John Wilson, 52, faces a single felony count of vandalism, police
    Sgt. Linda King said Friday.

    Quoted message said:

    King said nearly 50 holes measuring about 1 foot by 2 feet have been found
    since June along a trail at Laguna Lake Park, and in some cases attempts had
    been made to hide them from cyclists. She said some riders went over their
    handlebars after hitting the holes, but none reported major injuries.

    Intent to injure large amounts of cyclists is not vandalism.

    My thought exactly. I would have expected a much nasiter charge.
    Thank heavens Wilson doesn't read the Times or he'd have been out
    there with clothesline.
    John Kane, Kingston ON Canada

  4. At the very least, it is FIFTY counts of vandalism. But it is more. His
    efforts to conceal the traps shows intent to inflict injury.

  5. aka Robert Who? said:
    ZBicyclist said:

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_bike_trail_vandalis...

    FULLERTON, Calif. -- Police said they arrested a man who acknowledged
    digging holes on a park bike trail as payback for nearly being run down by a
    cyclist.

    Warren John Wilson, 52, faces a single felony count of vandalism, police
    Sgt. Linda King said Friday.

    King said nearly 50 holes measuring about 1 foot by 2 feet have been found
    since June along a trail at Laguna Lake Park, and in some cases attempts had
    been made to hide them from cyclists. She said some riders went over their
    handlebars after hitting the holes, but none reported major injuries.

    Intent to injure large amounts of cyclists is not vandalism.


    He Who Must Not Be Named probably approves.

    --
    Tom Sherman - Holstein-Friesland Bovinia
    POST FREE OR DIE!

  6. ...I'm into motorcycles as well and earlier today I posted the following
    reply (in another NG) regarding so called "vandalism" on _designated_
    ORV trails funded in part and maintained by local club riders...

    ...in the mid 90's a veteran racer friend of mine was almost decapitated
    while pre-running a section the Alligator Enduro course...seems a
    pro-earth / anti-human group had strung camouflage stress cord across
    the trail...after news of the incident circulated, re-con riders
    discovered several more booby traps along the course...my friend, a
    survivor of two wars, fifty years of racing and seventy years of living
    life to its fullest, was nearly murdered and forever sidelined by some
    anonymous extreme left-wing domestic terrorist group...

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

  7. Tom said:

    He Who Must Not Be Named probably approves.

    My guess is that "Warren John Wilson" is an alias.

    --Karen D.

  8. (Michael Baldwin) said:

    ...seems a
    pro-earth / anti-human group had strung camouflage stress cord across
    the trail... was nearly murdered and forever sidelined by some
    anonymous extreme left-wing domestic terrorist group...

    Seems like you might be making stuff up. How do you know it wasn't
    some random person with a grudge like the guy in the OP?

    Robert

  9. This is when multi use trails are not marked properly with "ALL TRAIL
    USERS KEEP RIGHT".

    ZBicyclist said:

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_bike_trail_vandalis...

    FULLERTON, Calif. -- Police said they arrested a man who acknowledged
    digging holes on a park bike trail as payback for nearly being run down bya
    cyclist.

    Warren John Wilson, 52, faces a single felony count of vandalism, police
    Sgt. Linda King said Friday.

    King said nearly 50 holes measuring about 1 foot by 2 feet have been found
    since June along a trail at Laguna Lake Park, and in some cases attempts had
    been made to hide them from cyclists. She said some riders went over their
    handlebars after hitting the holes, but none reported major injuries.

    --
    Mike Kruger
    Gravity -- It's not just a good idea. It's the law.

  10. Robert states

    Quoted message said:

    Seems like you might be making stuff up. How do
    you know it wasn't some random person with a grudge
    like the guy in the OP?

    Hello Robert

    You sir are absolutely correct. I don't know that it wasn't one
    individual's lone actions. Hell, my friend may have strung the stress
    cord himself in the hope of being martyred.

    So you see Robert, the preceeding paragraph is an example of me "making
    stuff up".

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

  11. *typo - preceeding should be preceding

  12. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Quoted message said:
    ZBicyclist said:

    http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/1120ap_odd_bike_trail_vandalis...

    FULLERTON, Calif. -- Police said they arrested a man who acknowledged
    digging holes on a park bike trail as payback for nearly being run down by a
    cyclist.

    [ my snippage ]

    Quoted message said:

    Intent to injure large amounts of cyclists is not vandalism.

    The guy wanted payback.

    I guess he took his being "nearly run down" as a
    a personal affront. Isn't that the same attitude
    that's reported to be present in road rage incidents?

    Anyways, in Vancouver BC, anybody caught vandalising our
    sacred park lands has hell to pay, and is subject not
    only to criminal penalties, but also to public
    humiliation (via the news media) and much public censure.
    His offence is next thing to being caught running a
    cruel puppy farm, or starving & neglecting a stableful
    of ponies.

    Up here, Warren John Wilson's ass would be grass.

    Road ragers get their moment of infamy, then they
    just fade back into the crowd.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    Nothing is safe from me.
    I'm really at:
    tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

  13. "Michael Baldwin" wrote: You sir are absolutely correct. I don't know
    that it wasn't one

    Quoted message said:

    individual's lone actions. Hell, my friend may have strung the stress
    cord himself in the hope of being martyred.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    That's good, Michael. Get sarcastic when ou are caught with your pants
    down. For your information, I know none of my left-wing friends would pull
    a stunt like that.

  14. Leo Lichtman said:

    "Michael Baldwin" wrote: You sir are absolutely correct. I don't know
    that it wasn't one

    Quoted message said:

    individual's lone actions. Hell, my friend may have strung the stress
    cord himself in the hope of being martyred.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Quoted message said:

    That's good, Michael. Get sarcastic when ou are caught with your
    pants down. For your information, I know none of my left-wing
    friends would pull a stunt like that.

    Radical environmentalists (polite term) have done a /lot/ of things like
    that -- from stringing piano wire across biking trails to burning down
    entire developments. Don't you read the news, Leo?

  15. Tom says

    Quoted message said:

    Up here, Warren John Wilson's ass would be grass.

    ...our three pillars of democracy are crumbling...the forementioned
    person should be charged with assault with intent to maim or kill...

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

  16. In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bill Sornson said:
    Leo Lichtman said:

    "Michael Baldwin" wrote: You sir are absolutely correct. I don't know
    that it wasn't one

    Quoted message said:

    individual's lone actions. Hell, my friend may have strung the stress
    cord himself in the hope of being martyred.


    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Quoted message said:

    That's good, Michael. Get sarcastic when ou are caught with your
    pants down. For your information, I know none of my left-wing
    friends would pull a stunt like that.

    Radical environmentalists (polite term) have done a /lot/ of things like
    that -- from stringing piano wire across biking trails to burning down
    entire developments.

    That's not environmentalism.

    "Radical environmentalism" is an oxymoron.

    I could just as glibly say that radical anti-environmentalists
    kill people by promoting impunitous private car use, paving-over
    oxygenating natural areas, rendering the three basic necessitities
    of quality life (food, clothing & shelter) inaccessible commodities
    to financially marginalized people and thereby making entry into
    the armed forces their only option for (possible) survival short
    of the prison industry, &c.

    Quoted message said:

    Don't you read the news, Leo?

    Whose news?

    Watch out for those radical sewing bees. They'll
    gitcha, big time. They'll raise the price of gasoline
    and artichoke hearts and pate du foie gras and beluga
    caviar to insufferable levels.

    radical cheers,
    Tom

    --
    Nothing is safe from me.

    I'm really at:
    tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

  17. Leo says

    Quoted message said:

    That's good, Michael. Get sarcastic when ou are caught with
    your pants down. For your information, I know none of
    my left-wing friends would pull a stunt like that.

    ...oh c'mon Leo. Doing you really have time for this, after all the
    Shepherds for Liberal Americans are pandering at this very moment...

    ...the liberals have taught me well...I need no proof, I only need to
    make the accusation...to simply state that your left wing friends would
    never pull a stunt like that is not good enough...so, what kind of
    stunts do they pull Leo... before you answer that, let me pull my pants
    up..

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

  18. In article <[email hidden]>,

    (Michael Baldwin) said:

    Tom says

    Quoted message said:

    Up here, Warren John Wilson's ass would be grass.

    ..our three pillars of democracy are crumbling...the forementioned
    person should be charged with assault with intent to maim or kill...

    The "forementioned person's" name is Warren John Wilson
    and will be forever known as such.

    Bob Hunt understands better than most of us the legal
    problems of laying charges and making them stick.

    If nobody was actually physically injured as a consequence
    of Warren John Wilson's actions, it'll be much more difficult
    to impugn him for assault, let alone any kind of intent.
    That's just how The System works.

    Your pillars of democracy are not crumbling. They're
    working, as always. In fact, they may well be stiffened.

    cheers,
    Tom

    --
    Nothing is safe from me.
    I'm really at:
    tkeats curlicue vcn dot bc dot ca

  19. Tom Keats said:

    In article <[email hidden]>,

    Bill Sornson said:
    Leo Lichtman said:

    "Michael Baldwin" wrote: You sir are absolutely correct. I don't
    know that it wasn't one
    > individual's lone actions. Hell, my friend may have strung the
    > stress cord himself in the hope of being martyred.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Quoted message said:

    That's good, Michael. Get sarcastic when ou are caught with your
    pants down. For your information, I know none of my left-wing
    friends would pull a stunt like that.

    Radical environmentalists (polite term) have done a /lot/ of things
    like that -- from stringing piano wire across biking trails to
    burning down entire developments.

    That's not environmentalism.

    "Radical environmentalism" is an oxymoron.

    I said it was a polite term. Better is enviro-whackos or just plain
    terrorists. (And it was in response to Leo's implying that since none of
    HIS "left-wing friends" would do something like the other poster discussed,
    then it must be made up. It's a simple logical fallacy.)

    Quoted message said:

    I could just as glibly say that radical anti-environmentalists
    kill people by promoting impunitous private car use, paving-over
    oxygenating natural areas, rendering the three basic necessitities
    of quality life (food, clothing & shelter) inaccessible commodities
    to financially marginalized people and thereby making entry into
    the armed forces their only option for (possible) survival short
    of the prison industry, &c.

    Quoted message said:

    Don't you read the news, Leo?

    Whose news?

    Even the mainstream media covered the burning of those under-construction
    resorts in Colorado a few years ago.

    Quoted message said:

    Watch out for those radical sewing bees. They'll
    gitcha, big time. They'll raise the price of gasoline
    and artichoke hearts and pate du foie gras and beluga
    caviar to insufferable levels.

    radical cheers,
    Tom

    For a radical you sure are syrupy-sweet.

    BS

  20. Tom reminds me

    Quoted message said:

    If nobody was actually physically injured as a consequence of
    Warren John Wilson's actions, it'll be much more difficult to
    impugn him for assault, let alone any kind of intent.
    That's just how The System works.

    ...you are correct...that is how The System works, but that doesn't mean
    The System can't be improved...cops have taught me, most DA's only want
    one thing, victory....that's how they keep their jobs...I understand the
    reality of the situation...we need laws that insure Mr. Wilson's actions
    and others like him are treated as acts of domestic terrorism...example,
    if a bomb goes off in a trash can next to a trail head parking lot and
    nobody is serious hurt by the blast, is it "just" vandalism?....

    Best Regards - Mike Baldwin

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