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  1. I have finally saved up enough chicken bones to make stock, which I
    have never done before, and I figured you'd all want to laugh at me.
    Seriously, though, part of my stock is going to be leftover veggies
    from the fridge. I never have carrots so I'll buy some of them tonight
    but I do have onion, celery, and parsley.
    Do you think a cup of chopped parsley would be too much? Also, would
    sweet peppers have been okay in stock, in your opinion? I threw a few
    small peppers out yesterday but now wonder if I should have saved them.
    I've got the carcass of one chicken and the bones of 3 large
    breast-and-rib pieces, plus bones of two chicken legs. I assume that
    should be enough to make at least a little stock.

    Stacia

  2. "Glitter Ninja" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have finally saved up enough chicken bones to make stock, which I
    have never done before, and I figured you'd all want to laugh at me.
    Seriously, though, part of my stock is going to be leftover veggies
    from the fridge. I never have carrots so I'll buy some of them tonight
    but I do have onion, celery, and parsley.
    Do you think a cup of chopped parsley would be too much? Also, would
    sweet peppers have been okay in stock, in your opinion? I threw a few
    small peppers out yesterday but now wonder if I should have saved them.
    I've got the carcass of one chicken and the bones of 3 large
    breast-and-rib pieces, plus bones of two chicken legs. I assume that
    should be enough to make at least a little stock.

    Stacia

    Hey, who would laugh. Anything goes with stock. I always use veggies if I
    have them leftover. And don't go to the trouble of cutting up the parsley -
    just throw it in whole - and while you're at it, add some thyme, oregano
    and garlic, or other spices that you like.

    I buy chicken legs - usually about $1.50 for a bag. I make stock and then
    feed the chicken to the dogs. Works great!

    Good luck,

    Elaine

  3. "Glitter Ninja" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have finally saved up enough chicken bones to make stock, which I
    have never done before, and I figured you'd all want to laugh at me.
    Seriously, though, part of my stock is going to be leftover veggies
    from the fridge. I never have carrots so I'll buy some of them tonight
    but I do have onion, celery, and parsley.
    Do you think a cup of chopped parsley would be too much? Also, would
    sweet peppers have been okay in stock, in your opinion? I threw a few
    small peppers out yesterday but now wonder if I should have saved them.
    I've got the carcass of one chicken and the bones of 3 large
    breast-and-rib pieces, plus bones of two chicken legs. I assume that
    should be enough to make at least a little stock.


    You may have heard me whining about chicken stock earlier this year. Here's
    what works for me:

    * Chicken pieces worked better than a whole chicken.
    * Add water sparingly. Maybe an inch or so over the chicken in a 5 qt.
    stock pot. You have less chicken so use less water.
    * Green veggies like parsley (especially a whole cup!) will make your stock
    green. I used more carrots, parsnips, and onions (with a couple of whole
    cloves stuck in the side) with some of the skin left on, maybe some celery.
    * Saffron! Whole peppercorns, salt. Maybe some thyme after you've skimmed
    some of the chicken "stuff" off the top of the hot liquid. Cinnamon,
    ginger, and nutmeg --sparingly.
    * Simmer 2.5 hours.
    * Strain though a fine mesh strainer.

    Experiment a little. You'll like your next batch even more.

    Pablo

    ..

  4. elaine said:

    "Glitter Ninja" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:

    I have finally saved up enough chicken bones to make stock, which I
    have never done before, and I figured you'd all want to laugh at me.
    Seriously, though, part of my stock is going to be leftover veggies
    from the fridge. I never have carrots so I'll buy some of them
    tonight but I do have onion, celery, and parsley.
    Do you think a cup of chopped parsley would be too much? Also,
    would sweet peppers have been okay in stock, in your opinion? I
    threw a few small peppers out yesterday but now wonder if I should
    have saved them. I've got the carcass of one chicken and the bones
    of 3 large breast-and-rib pieces, plus bones of two chicken legs. I
    assume that should be enough to make at least a little stock.

    Stacia

    Hey, who would laugh. Anything goes with stock. I always use
    veggies if I have them leftover. And don't go to the trouble of
    cutting up the parsley - just throw it in whole - and while you're
    at it, add some thyme, oregano and garlic, or other spices that you
    like.

    I buy chicken legs - usually about $1.50 for a bag. I make stock and
    then feed the chicken to the dogs. Works great!

    Good luck,

    Elaine

    I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too. OH, and when the stock
    is done simmering (low and slow!) chill it and then spoon the congealed fat
    off the top. Do *not* be surprised when the chilled stock is gelatinous; it
    is supposed to be. I remember kili asking me about that the first time she
    made a pot of chicken stock. It melts right back down when it's heated.

    Jill

  5. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    elaine said:

    "Glitter Ninja" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    I have finally saved up enough chicken bones to make stock, which I
    have never done before, and I figured you'd all want to laugh at me.
    Seriously, though, part of my stock is going to be leftover veggies
    from the fridge. I never have carrots so I'll buy some of them
    tonight but I do have onion, celery, and parsley.
    Do you think a cup of chopped parsley would be too much? Also,
    would sweet peppers have been okay in stock, in your opinion? I
    threw a few small peppers out yesterday but now wonder if I should
    have saved them. I've got the carcass of one chicken and the bones
    of 3 large breast-and-rib pieces, plus bones of two chicken legs. I
    assume that should be enough to make at least a little stock.

    Stacia

    Hey, who would laugh. Anything goes with stock. I always use
    veggies if I have them leftover. And don't go to the trouble of
    cutting up the parsley - just throw it in whole - and while you're
    at it, add some thyme, oregano and garlic, or other spices that you
    like.

    I buy chicken legs - usually about $1.50 for a bag. I make stock and
    then feed the chicken to the dogs. Works great!

    Good luck,

    Elaine

    I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too. OH, and when the stock
    is done simmering (low and slow!) chill it and then spoon the congealed
    fat
    off the top. Do *not* be surprised when the chilled stock is gelatinous;
    it
    is supposed to be. I remember kili asking me about that the first time
    she
    made a pot of chicken stock. It melts right back down when it's heated.

    Jill

    I have never figured out the flavour to Bay leafs and have stopped buying a
    big bag. 'cause they just get stale. Nowadays, I buy a few a the bulk food
    store. Can they be grown?

    Elaine

  6. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> hitched up their panties and posted
    news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too. OH, and when the
    stock is done simmering (low and slow!) chill it and then spoon the
    congealed fat off the top. Do *not* be surprised when the chilled
    stock is gelatinous; it is supposed to be. I remember kili asking me
    about that the first time she made a pot of chicken stock. It melts
    right back down when it's heated.

    Jill

    LOL... reminds me of the first time I made stock. I thought "Oh... mi...
    Gawd, I've made savory Jello"...

    Michael

    --
    "The most remarkable thing about my mother is that for thirty years she
    served the family nothing but leftovers. The original meal has never been
    found."

    --Calvin Trillin

  7. Michael 'Dog3' Lonergan said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> hitched up their panties and
    posted news:[email hidden]:

    Quoted message said:


    I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too. OH, and when the
    stock is done simmering (low and slow!) chill it and then spoon the
    congealed fat off the top. Do *not* be surprised when the chilled
    stock is gelatinous; it is supposed to be. I remember kili asking me
    about that the first time she made a pot of chicken stock. It melts
    right back down when it's heated.

    Jill

    LOL... reminds me of the first time I made stock. I thought "Oh...
    mi... Gawd, I've made savory Jello"...

    Michael

    LOL! Yeah, it is pretty much a surprise the first time you go about it.

    Jill

  8. elaine said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    elaine wrote:
    I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too. OH, and when the
    stock is done simmering (low and slow!) chill it and then spoon the
    congealed fat
    off the top. Do *not* be surprised when the chilled stock is
    gelatinous; it
    is supposed to be. I remember kili asking me about that the first
    time she
    made a pot of chicken stock. It melts right back down when it's
    heated.

    Jill

    I have never figured out the flavour to Bay leafs and have stopped
    buying a big bag. 'cause they just get stale. Nowadays, I buy a few
    a the bulk food store. Can they be grown?

    Elaine

    Bay leaves are the leaves from a bay laurel tree. I'm sure you could plant
    one; no idea what the temperate zones are for doing so. The leaves I use
    are dried so I'm not sure what you mean by "stale". Sure, dried herbs lose
    their potency over time but they can be frozen just like any other dried
    herb to help retain freshness.

    Jill

  9. elaine said:

    I have never figured out the flavour to Bay leafs and have
    stopped buying a big bag. 'cause they just get stale. Nowadays,
    I buy a few a the bulk food store. Can they be grown?

    I have not heard of people growing a mediterranean laurel
    tree stateside. I personally am happy to use California laurel
    (called myrtle in Oregon), but some people find its stronger
    flavor offputting. There's enough laurel trees growing wild
    around here there's no shortage of fresh leafs.

    Steve

  10. Glitter Ninja said:

    I have finally saved up enough chicken bones to make stock, which I
    have never done before, and I figured you'd all want to laugh at me.
    Seriously, though, part of my stock is going to be leftover veggies
    from the fridge. I never have carrots so I'll buy some of them tonight
    but I do have onion, celery, and parsley.
    Do you think a cup of chopped parsley would be too much? Also, would
    sweet peppers have been okay in stock, in your opinion? I threw a few
    small peppers out yesterday but now wonder if I should have saved them.
    I've got the carcass of one chicken and the bones of 3 large
    breast-and-rib pieces, plus bones of two chicken legs. I assume that
    should be enough to make at least a little stock.


    You've already received a lot of suggestions to add things. Veggies
    and herbs and seasonings. All of which raises the question of why you
    are making the stock. Is it going to be soup? Is it going to be the
    liquid for a gravy or sauce? Is it going to be the base for a more
    complicated soup?

    The thing is, there's plain chicken stock, which tastes like chicken.
    Then every thing you add changes the taste. A lot of it is to the
    better, but if you just add everything you've got on hand you aren't
    going to learn anything useful because the next batch will have a
    different combination of ingredients. I'd suggest you do something
    minimal so you know what the baseline is. Then when you begin to add
    things you can begin to learn how each new thing affects the basic
    stock. -aem

  11. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    elaine said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    elaine wrote:
    I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too. OH, and when the
    stock is done simmering (low and slow!) chill it and then spoon the
    congealed fat
    off the top. Do *not* be surprised when the chilled stock is
    gelatinous; it
    is supposed to be. I remember kili asking me about that the first
    time she
    made a pot of chicken stock. It melts right back down when it's
    heated.

    Jill

    I have never figured out the flavour to Bay leafs and have stopped
    buying a big bag. 'cause they just get stale. Nowadays, I buy a few
    a the bulk food store. Can they be grown?

    Elaine

    Bay leaves are the leaves from a bay laurel tree. I'm sure you could
    plant
    one; no idea what the temperate zones are for doing so. The leaves I use
    are dried so I'm not sure what you mean by "stale". Sure, dried herbs
    lose
    their potency over time but they can be frozen just like any other dried
    herb to help retain freshness.

    Jill


    I was reading a (Indian) curry cookbook this weekend and the author used a
    substitute for 10 curry leaves of 4 bay leaves. IMO I thought curry leaves
    (itty bitty things) were pretty mild before cooking and somewhat mild after
    cooking (actually not tasting of curry as we think of curry). But 4 bay
    leaves? The rest of the book I took pretty seriously, but ---
    Dee Dee

  12. "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    elaine said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    elaine wrote:
    I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too. OH, and when the
    stock is done simmering (low and slow!) chill it and then spoon the
    congealed fat
    off the top. Do *not* be surprised when the chilled stock is
    gelatinous; it
    is supposed to be. I remember kili asking me about that the first
    time she
    made a pot of chicken stock. It melts right back down when it's
    heated.

    Jill

    I have never figured out the flavour to Bay leafs and have stopped
    buying a big bag. 'cause they just get stale. Nowadays, I buy a few
    a the bulk food store. Can they be grown?

    Elaine

    Bay leaves are the leaves from a bay laurel tree. I'm sure you could
    plant
    one; no idea what the temperate zones are for doing so. The leaves I use
    are dried so I'm not sure what you mean by "stale". Sure, dried herbs
    lose
    their potency over time but they can be frozen just like any other dried
    herb to help retain freshness.

    Jill


    I purchased and grew a bay-leaf trea when I lived in California. I don't
    know what species it was, but other than it's beauty as a small ornament
    tree on my patio, I could see no real difference in the taste from a dried
    bay leaf.

    If you're worried about being stale, try vacuuming them in a jar. Use them
    to chase away aunts.
    Dee Dee

  13. jmcquown said:

    elaine wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I buy chicken legs - usually about $1.50 for a bag. I make stock and
    then feed the chicken to the dogs. Works great!

    Okay, I'll mail the chicken to your dogs 😉

    Quoted message said:

    I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too. OH, and when the stock
    is done simmering (low and slow!) chill it and then spoon the congealed fat
    off the top. Do *not* be surprised when the chilled stock is gelatinous; it
    is supposed to be. I remember kili asking me about that the first time she
    made a pot of chicken stock. It melts right back down when it's heated.

    I'm glad you told me that. Seriously, I would have come running here
    asking just how I made chicken jelly and NOW what do I do with it?

    Stacia

  14. Stacia said:

    I'm glad you told me that. Seriously, I would have come running here
    asking just how I made chicken jelly and NOW what do I do with it?

    We'd have asked you to send your question to rec.food.preserving. (Why
    should WE have all the fun?)

    Bob

  15. jmcquown said:

    Bay leaves are the leaves from a bay laurel tree. I'm sure you could


    plant

    Quoted message said:

    one; no idea what the temperate zones are for doing so.

    I had a friend who used to visit New Orleans on a regular basis, he'd always
    bring me back a big bunch of bay leaves (still on the branches) from a
    friend of his that had a plant in his garden...

    --
    Best
    Greg

  16. On Mon, 10 Apr 2006 22:15:35 +0000 (UTC), [email hidden] (Glitter

    Ninja) said:

    I have finally saved up enough chicken bones to make stock, which I
    have never done before, and I figured you'd all want to laugh at me.
    Seriously, though, part of my stock is going to be leftover veggies
    from the fridge. I never have carrots so I'll buy some of them tonight
    but I do have onion, celery, and parsley.
    Do you think a cup of chopped parsley would be too much? Also, would
    sweet peppers have been okay in stock, in your opinion? I threw a few
    small peppers out yesterday but now wonder if I should have saved them.
    I've got the carcass of one chicken and the bones of 3 large
    breast-and-rib pieces, plus bones of two chicken legs. I assume that
    should be enough to make at least a little stock.

    Stacia

    I've read that the standard is two parts onion to one part each of
    celery and carrots. A little thyme and a bay leaf or two and some
    black peppercorns should do well.

    If it was me, I'd wait on the peppers, parsley and stuff till I was
    making a sauce with the stock.

    BTW this has worked for me in the past: When it's bed time, put the
    covered stock pot in a low oven for the night. Next day, you can get
    going on reducing it again if you want.
    --
    modom

  17. Glitter Ninja said:
    jmcquown said:

    elaine wrote:

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    I buy chicken legs - usually about $1.50 for a bag. I make stock and
    then feed the chicken to the dogs. Works great!

    Okay, I'll mail the chicken to your dogs 😉

    Quoted message said:

    I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too. OH, and when the


    stock

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is done simmering (low and slow!) chill it and then spoon the congealed


    fat

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    off the top. Do *not* be surprised when the chilled stock is gelatinous;


    it

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    is supposed to be. I remember kili asking me about that the first time


    she

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    made a pot of chicken stock. It melts right back down when it's heated.

    I'm glad you told me that. Seriously, I would have come running here
    asking just how I made chicken jelly and NOW what do I do with it?

    IIRC "Chicken jelly" is an old - fashioned "convalescent" food, I think it's
    mentioned in my mom's c. 1930 Home Ec cookbook...it's of the same elk as
    "calves foot jelly", etc.

    It also sounds like the kind of thing that would be on foo - foo hotel menus
    in England many decades ago...

    --
    Best
    Greg

  18. modom said:

    I've read that the standard is two parts onion to one part each of
    celery and carrots. A little thyme and a bay leaf or two and some
    black peppercorns should do well.

    That's about what I'd use. I would think that the flavor of bell
    peppers would overpower the stock.

    Me? I just make broth most of the time. Chicken and water. And we
    eat the chicken afterwards. Mix it with mayo and seasonings for
    sandwiches, or drown it in barbecue sauce for .... sandwiches.

    Carol
    --

    Some people are like Slinkies... they don't really have a purpose but
    they bring a smile to your face when you push them down the stairs.

    Stolen from "traid" on the IRC

  19. Damsel in dis Dress wrote on 10 Apr 2006 in rec.food.cooking

    Quoted message said:
    modom said:

    I've read that the standard is two parts onion to one part each of
    celery and carrots. A little thyme and a bay leaf or two and some
    black peppercorns should do well.

    That's about what I'd use. I would think that the flavor of bell
    peppers would overpower the stock.

    Me? I just make broth most of the time. Chicken and water. And we
    eat the chicken afterwards. Mix it with mayo and seasonings for
    sandwiches, or drown it in barbecue sauce for .... sandwiches.

    Carol

    I hate parsnips...But I gotta add one when I make stock. I cut a largish
    onion in half...skin and all, break in half 1 big carrot, 2 ribs celery,
    medium parsnip. add enough water to cover chicken by about one inch.
    Spices are celery leaves, several whole cloves of garlic, 10 ish
    peppercorns or so, 2-3 bay leaves. This works for 1 approx 3 lb whole
    chicken. I de-meat the bones after 45 minutes of simmering or so and re-
    add bones and let the stock simmer another hour and a half or so. I make
    it in a pasta pot; the liner allows easy access to bird and spent veggie
    pieces. The spices go into a tea ball except for the celery leaves. I use
    the over poached chicken meat in mayonaise style chicken salad sanwhiches
    etc...

    The odd time I'll fork a lemmon then chuck it in at the begining as well.

    the onion skin adds colour brown's the stock up a mite.

    Later when I make soup I might add bell peppers, peas, okra... terragon,
    dill or whatever. Depending on what kind of soup I'm making.

    But for generic chicken stock I like to leave it fairly plain...it works
    better that way as a canvas to build other flavours on IMO.

    --
    -Alan

  20. Dee Randall said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    elaine said:

    "jmcquown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > elaine wrote:
    > I concur. I throw in a couple of bay leaves, too.

    I have never figured out the flavour to Bay leafs and have stopped
    buying a big bag. 'cause they just get stale. Nowadays, I buy a few
    a the bulk food store. Can they be grown?

    Elaine

    Bay leaves are the leaves from a bay laurel tree. I'm sure you could
    plant
    one


    I purchased and grew a bay-leaf trea when I lived in California. I
    don't know what species it was, but other than it's beauty as a small
    ornament tree on my patio, I could see no real difference in the
    taste from a dried bay leaf.

    If you're worried about being stale, try vacuuming them in a jar.
    Use them to chase away aunts.
    Dee Dee

    You must really dislike your *aunts*! LOL But seriously, I add bay leaves
    to my flour and cornmeal to keep the bugs out.

    Jill

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