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  1. Good morning,

    Roger Zoul said:

    Carmen wrote:
    :: Good morning,
    :: On 1-Feb-2005, "diane" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: I would never make it in a crock-pot- It would swim in its fat
    and be mushy.
    ::
    :: Not if you place it on a rack in the crockpot. It also helps not
    to use fatty beef. The best IMO is the 93% lean. :-)

    Interesting....My crockpot didn't come with a rack.

    Neither did mine. Just use a regular baking pan small enough to fit
    in the 'pot and put some crumpled up aluminum foil in the bottom of it
    for the pan to sit on. Steamer racks (the metal ones) also work well
    in crockpots.

    Take care,
    Carmen
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  2. Carmen said:


    Good morning,

    Roger Zoul said:

    Carmen wrote:
    :: Good morning,
    :: On 1-Feb-2005, "diane" <[email hidden]> wrote:
    ::
    ::: I would never make it in a crock-pot- It would swim in its fat
    and be mushy.
    ::
    :: Not if you place it on a rack in the crockpot. It also helps not
    to use fatty beef. The best IMO is the 93% lean. :-)

    Interesting....My crockpot didn't come with a rack.

    Neither did mine. Just use a regular baking pan small enough to fit
    in the 'pot and put some crumpled up aluminum foil in the bottom of it
    for the pan to sit on. Steamer racks (the metal ones) also work well
    in crockpots.

    Take care,
    Carmen

    That's a very good idea. I can use the pan from my toaster oven.

    --
    Bob in CT

  3. Good morning,

    Bob M said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    ::: I would never make it in a crock-pot- It would swim in its
    fat and be mushy.
    ::
    :: Not if you place it on a rack in the crockpot. It also helps
    not to use fatty beef. The best IMO is the 93% lean. :-)

    Interesting....My crockpot didn't come with a rack.

    Neither did mine. Just use a regular baking pan small enough to
    fit in the 'pot and put some crumpled up aluminum foil in the
    bottom
    of it for the pan to sit on. Steamer racks (the metal ones) also
    work
    well in crockpots.

    That's a very good idea. I can use the pan from my toaster oven.

    A tunafish can that's the sort with both ends removable by can opener
    is also a good reusable way to get the pan off the bottom. :-)

    Take care,
    Carmen
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  4. Bob, not sure if has been requested yet, but could you please post the
    recipe?
    Thanks
    Kristen
    "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    ClabberHead 5.0 said:


    "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot). I've already
    made one chicken dish with green curry that was great. Next, is a fancy
    meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
    ketchup). However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

    Grated parmesan and romano cheese 🙂 Mmmmmmmmm

    That's a good idea, although the recipe is a "stuffed" meatloaf with
    cheese and spinach filling.

    --
    Bob in CT

  5. Is there lead in the tuna can? a inverted plate or rack. this seems like a
    lot of fussing and dishwashing to me-I've always hated cleaning the
    crock-pot anyway
    "Carmen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Good morning,

    Bob M said:
    Quoted message said:

    > ::: I would never make it in a crock-pot- It would swim in its
    > fat and be mushy.
    > ::
    > :: Not if you place it on a rack in the crockpot. It also helps
    > not to use fatty beef. The best IMO is the 93% lean. :-)
    >
    > Interesting....My crockpot didn't come with a rack.

    Neither did mine. Just use a regular baking pan small enough to
    fit in the 'pot and put some crumpled up aluminum foil in the
    bottom
    of it for the pan to sit on. Steamer racks (the metal ones) also
    work
    well in crockpots.

    That's a very good idea. I can use the pan from my toaster oven.

    A tunafish can that's the sort with both ends removable by can opener
    is also a good reusable way to get the pan off the bottom. :-)

    Take care,
    Carmen
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  6. "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    ClabberHead 5.0 said:


    "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot). I've already
    made one chicken dish with green curry that was great. Next, is a


    fancy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
    ketchup). However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

    Grated parmesan and romano cheese 🙂 Mmmmmmmmm

    That's a good idea, although the recipe is a "stuffed" meatloaf with
    cheese and spinach filling.

    --
    Bob in CT

    Bob could you please post the recipe?

    Angie

  7. On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:53:48 -0700, AngieRose <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    ClabberHead 5.0 said:


    "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...
    > Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot). I've


    already

    Quoted message said:

    > made one chicken dish with green curry that was great. Next, is a


    fancy

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    > meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
    > ketchup). However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

    Grated parmesan and romano cheese 🙂 Mmmmmmmmm

    That's a good idea, although the recipe is a "stuffed" meatloaf with
    cheese and spinach filling.

    --
    Bob in CT

    Bob could you please post the recipe?

    Angie

    I'll post the recipe I use, once I figure out if it's any good. I don't
    want anyone to make something that turns out nasty, and this will be the
    first time I've tried this recipe.

    --
    Bob in CT

  8. Kristen said:

    Bob, not sure if has been requested yet, but could you please post the
    recipe?
    Thanks
    Kristen

    I'll post the recipe I use, once I figure out if it's any good. I don't
    want anyone to make something that turns out nasty, and this will be the
    first time I've tried this recipe.

    --
    Bob in CT

  9. "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 10:53:48 -0700, AngieRose <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Tue, 01 Feb 2005 02:20:08 GMT, ClabberHead 5.0
    <[email hidden]> wrote:

    >
    > "Bob M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    > news:[email hidden]...
    >> Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot). I've
    already
    >> made one chicken dish with green curry that was great. Next, is a


    fancy

    Quoted message said:

    >> meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
    >> ketchup). However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?
    >
    >
    > Grated parmesan and romano cheese 🙂 Mmmmmmmmm

    That's a good idea, although the recipe is a "stuffed" meatloaf with
    cheese and spinach filling.

    --
    Bob in CT

    Bob could you please post the recipe?

    Angie

    I'll post the recipe I use, once I figure out if it's any good. I don't
    want anyone to make something that turns out nasty, and this will be the
    first time I've tried this recipe.

    --
    Bob in CT

    Thanks Bob I cant wait to find out how it is.
    Angie

  10. Hello,
    On 1-Feb-2005, "diane" <[email hidden]> wrote:

    <Discussion of making meatloaf in a crockpot using a pan and ways to
    keep the pan off the bottom of the 'pot.>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A tunafish can that's the sort with both ends removable by can
    opener is also a good reusable way to get the pan off the bottom.
    :-)

    Quoted message said:

    Is there lead in the tuna can? a inverted plate or rack. this seems
    like a lot of fussing and dishwashing to me-I've always hated
    cleaning the
    crock-pot anyway

    The purpose of the can "ring" is to keep the pan from direct contact
    with the bottome of the crockpot. It doesn't come into contact with
    the food that way. As for cleaning, I don't mind cleaning my 'pot,
    but it has a removable liner. The other kind is a pain in the butt to
    clean.

    Take care,
    Carmen
    --
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  11. "diane" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]
    || Is there lead in the tuna can? a inverted plate or rack. this seems
    || like a lot of fussing and dishwashing to me-I've always hated
    || cleaning the crock-pot anyway

    Do you eat off paper plates with your fingers? If not you have to do dishes
    anyway.

    Besides, a ceramic slow cooker is much easier to clean than pots and pans.
    Put one or two scoops of Oxyclean in it, then fill with hot water. Let it
    stand for an hour and it rinses clean.

    --
    Peter
    270/219/180
    website: http://users.thelink.net/marengo

  12. Bob M said:


    Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot). I've


    already

    Quoted message said:

    made one chicken dish with green curry that was great. Next, is a


    fancy

    Quoted message said:

    meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
    ketchup). However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

    I've never been impressed with adding breadcrumbs or
    oatmeal or whatever to meatloaf. Veggies ranging from
    green olives through tomatoes yes, but fillers like
    breadcrumbs have never interested me.

    Add some egg as a binder, toss in some diced veggies
    du jour and herb du jour, and you're good to go.

  13. Try using store bought cloeslaw mix for vegetable/salad area. Make a great
    filler to extend meat.

    Quoted message said:
    Bob M said:


    Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot). I've


    already

    Quoted message said:

    made one chicken dish with green curry that was great. Next, is a


    fancy

    Quoted message said:

    meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a reduced amount of
    ketchup). However, what can I add instead of bread crumbs?

    I've never been impressed with adding breadcrumbs or
    oatmeal or whatever to meatloaf. Veggies ranging from
    green olives through tomatoes yes, but fillers like
    breadcrumbs have never interested me.

    Add some egg as a binder, toss in some diced veggies
    du jour and herb du jour, and you're good to go.

    David Minesinger
    aka PapaBear

    [email hidden]
    [email hidden]
    Cell 214-766-8339

  14. Doug Freyburger said:
    Bob M said:

    Well, I bought a crockpot/slow cooker (on sale, to boot). I've
    already made one chicken dish with green curry that was great.
    Next, is a fancy meatloaf (with low carb ketchup, and perhaps a
    reduced amount of ketchup). However, what can I add instead of
    bread crumbs?

    I've never been impressed with adding breadcrumbs or oatmeal or
    whatever to meatloaf. Veggies ranging from green olives through
    tomatoes yes, but fillers like breadcrumbs have never interested
    me.

    They don't merely provide cheaper bulk than the meat. They help to
    keep the meatloaf more tender. A meat-only loaf will be more dense
    and, typically, less flavorful because there's more migration of
    juices and fats. The grains retain fats and juices that would
    otherwise get lost. Therein lives the flavor.

    Quoted message said:

    Add some egg as a binder, toss in some diced veggies du jour and
    herb du jour, and you're good to go.

    The egg actually toughens the loaf, as well. The protein denatures and
    becomes chewy without the moderating influence of moisture-retaining
    ingredients. That's why meatloaves will be more moist than a 100% beef
    burger cooked to the same degrees of doneness.

    Pastorio

  15. I have always used oatmeal in meatloaf, I also added water, an onion and an
    egg and used to mix in a package of Knorr's Oxtail Soup Mix for flavoring.
    My SO is a real meatloaf lover. This week I experimented using 2 pounds of
    ground beef, one big portabello mushroom and a medium (about 7-8" long)
    zucchini, shredded, a chopped onion with some seasoning salt and pepper and
    two eggs. I wasn't all that impressed but Jimmy said it was one of my best
    meatloafs ever. I think what I didn't like was all the chunks of onion
    which weren't as done as I would have liked. I used to put the onion in the
    blender with the water which pretty much pulverized it. Will have to figure
    out how to get it smushed without the water. I used my Salad Shooter for
    the mushroom and zucchini but it doesn't work on onions. Dehydrated onion
    flakes might work and would absorb some of the juices from the meat, some of
    it came out and congealed in the pan.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bob (this one) <[email hidden]> stated
    | They don't merely provide cheaper bulk than the meat. They help to
    | keep the meatloaf more tender. A meat-only loaf will be more dense
    | and, typically, less flavorful because there's more migration of
    | juices and fats. The grains retain fats and juices that would
    | otherwise get lost. Therein lives the flavor.

    | The egg actually toughens the loaf, as well. The protein denatures and
    | becomes chewy without the moderating influence of moisture-retaining
    | ingredients. That's why meatloaves will be more moist than a 100% beef
    | burger cooked to the same degrees of doneness.
    |
    | Pastorio

  16. FOB said:

    I have always used oatmeal in meatloaf, I also added water, an onion and
    an
    egg and used to mix in a package of Knorr's Oxtail Soup Mix for
    flavoring.
    My SO is a real meatloaf lover. This week I experimented using 2 pounds
    of
    ground beef, one big portabello mushroom and a medium (about 7-8" long)
    zucchini, shredded, a chopped onion with some seasoning salt and pepper
    and
    two eggs. I wasn't all that impressed but Jimmy said it was one of my
    best
    meatloafs ever. I think what I didn't like was all the chunks of onion
    which weren't as done as I would have liked. I used to put the onion in
    the
    blender with the water which pretty much pulverized it. Will have to
    figure
    out how to get it smushed without the water. I used my Salad Shooter for
    the mushroom and zucchini but it doesn't work on onions. Dehydrated
    onion
    flakes might work and would absorb some of the juices from the meat,
    some of
    it came out and congealed in the pan.

    The recipe I'm starting from calls for onion soup mix, but this has
    partially hydrogenated oils and lots of starch. I'm still undecided as to
    what to use as a filler, but I'll likely add some very whole grain bread
    as a filler, but minimize the use of it. I'm going to be cooking a loaf
    with 4 pounds of meat, so even two slices of the bread I have would give
    about 10 grams carbs/pound of meat. Assumining a 1/4 pound serving size,
    that would be 2.5 grams/serving (not including the other carbs from cheese
    and spinach). That might be an acceptable amount of carbs. I'll also see
    about adding dehydrated onion flakes. That's a good idea.

    --
    Bob in CT

  17. "FOB" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    zucchini, shredded, a chopped onion with some seasoning salt and pepper


    and

    Quoted message said:

    two eggs. I wasn't all that impressed but Jimmy said it was one of my


    best

    Quoted message said:

    meatloafs ever. I think what I didn't like was all the chunks of onion
    which weren't as done as I would have liked. I used to put the onion in


    the

    Quoted message said:

    blender with the water which pretty much pulverized it.

    I chop my onion up with a knife then I cook it in a small skillet or a bowl
    in the microwave in a little olive oil until it gets mushy. I do this with
    all onion in all recipes because it has always given me a stomach ache if I
    don't.
    I'll have to try the zucchini and/or mushroom in my meatloaf.

    --
    No Husband Has Ever Been Shot While Doing The Dishes

  18. FOB said:

    I have always used oatmeal in meatloaf, I also added water, an onion and an
    egg and used to mix in a package of Knorr's Oxtail Soup Mix for flavoring.
    My SO is a real meatloaf lover. This week I experimented using 2 pounds of
    ground beef, one big portabello mushroom and a medium (about 7-8" long)
    zucchini, shredded, a chopped onion with some seasoning salt and pepperand
    two eggs. I wasn't all that impressed but Jimmy said it was one of my best
    meatloafs ever.

    Why were you not impressed? Not intense enough flavor? Something not
    quite right with texture?

    For flavor, try some beef base or good quality bouillon cubes as a
    booster. Mash it together with some of the other ingredients,
    particularly liquid ones and incorporate that into the whole loaf. Cut
    back on salt if you do this. Some finely minced cooked bacon helps if
    you don't want to use the beef base.

    Quoted message said:

    I think what I didn't like was all the chunks of onion
    which weren't as done as I would have liked. I used to put the onion in the
    blender with the water which pretty much pulverized it. Will have to figure
    out how to get it smushed without the water.

    Try this. Cut the onion in half from top to bottom and slice it thin.
    In a skillet over low-medium heat with a couple tablespoons butter,
    sauté the onion, stirring reasonably often until it's all well-browned
    and heading towards crisp. Coarsely chop the cooked onion if you feel
    the need. Incorporate that in the meatloaf and it'll bring an extra
    layer of flavor and texture to it. The onions will be tender and
    flavorful.

    There's a tedious technique that's simply wonderful for making a paste
    of onion. Chop is as fine as you can with knife or processor and dump
    it out onto a cutting board. Sprinkle some salt on it and, with the
    flat side of a wide-bladed knife, smear it back and forth on the
    cutting board. Put some muscle into it. After a short time of
    smearing, it'll begin to be more like a puree. Keep doing it until
    you've had enough of that exhausting foolishness and throw it all in
    the processor and let it run. It also works with garlic - a few cloves
    of garlic is pretty easy and turns out wonderful. The onions will,
    too, but it's work.

    Quoted message said:

    I used my Salad Shooter for
    the mushroom and zucchini but it doesn't work on onions. Dehydrated onion
    flakes might work and would absorb some of the juices from the meat, some of
    it came out and congealed in the pan.

    Dehydrated onion (flaked or chopped) will rehydrate with some of the
    juices of the rest of the ingredients thus retaining some flavor while
    contributing its own.

    If you have a juicer, run the onion through that along with a pepper
    or two, some celery and a few carrots. Simmer that juice to reduce it
    to about half. Mix that into the meatloaf along with the pulp that you
    briefly sauté to tenderize.

    Pastorio

    Quoted message said:

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bob (this one) <[email hidden]> stated
    | They don't merely provide cheaper bulk than the meat. They help to
    | keep the meatloaf more tender. A meat-only loaf will be more dense
    | and, typically, less flavorful because there's more migration of
    | juices and fats. The grains retain fats and juices that would
    | otherwise get lost. Therein lives the flavor.

    | The egg actually toughens the loaf, as well. The protein denatures and
    | becomes chewy without the moderating influence of moisture-retaining
    | ingredients. That's why meatloaves will be more moist than a 100% beef
    | burger cooked to the same degrees of doneness.
    |
    | Pastorio

  19. It was the texture I didn't like, too hard and the onions were also too
    hard. Cooking them first would help, maybe just boiling in a little water
    even but I think I will try the dehydrated onions, being the lazy cook that
    I am. I used to have a Sloppy Joe recipe that called for preboiling the
    onions.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bob (this one) <[email hidden]> stated
    | FOB wrote:
    |
    |
    | Why were you not impressed? Not intense enough flavor? Something not
    | quite right with texture?
    |
    | For flavor, try some beef base or good quality bouillon cubes as a
    | booster. Mash it together with some of the other ingredients,
    | particularly liquid ones and incorporate that into the whole loaf. Cut
    | back on salt if you do this. Some finely minced cooked bacon helps if
    | you don't want to use the beef base.
    |
    || I think what I didn't like was all the chunks of onion
    || which weren't as done as I would have liked. I used to put the
    || onion in the blender with the water which pretty much pulverized it.
    || Will have to figure out how to get it smushed without the water.
    |
    | Try this. Cut the onion in half from top to bottom and slice it thin.
    | In a skillet over low-medium heat with a couple tablespoons butter,
    | sauté the onion, stirring reasonably often until it's all well-browned
    | and heading towards crisp. Coarsely chop the cooked onion if you feel
    | the need. Incorporate that in the meatloaf and it'll bring an extra
    | layer of flavor and texture to it. The onions will be tender and
    | flavorful.
    |
    | There's a tedious technique that's simply wonderful for making a paste
    | of onion. Chop is as fine as you can with knife or processor and dump
    | it out onto a cutting board. Sprinkle some salt on it and, with the
    | flat side of a wide-bladed knife, smear it back and forth on the
    | cutting board. Put some muscle into it. After a short time of
    | smearing, it'll begin to be more like a puree. Keep doing it until
    | you've had enough of that exhausting foolishness and throw it all in
    | the processor and let it run. It also works with garlic - a few cloves
    | of garlic is pretty easy and turns out wonderful. The onions will,
    | too, but it's work.
    |
    | > I used my Salad Shooter for
    || the mushroom and zucchini but it doesn't work on onions. Dehydrated
    || onion flakes might work and would absorb some of the juices from the
    || meat, some of it came out and congealed in the pan.
    |
    | Dehydrated onion (flaked or chopped) will rehydrate with some of the
    | juices of the rest of the ingredients thus retaining some flavor while
    | contributing its own.
    |
    | If you have a juicer, run the onion through that along with a pepper
    | or two, some celery and a few carrots. Simmer that juice to reduce it
    | to about half. Mix that into the meatloaf along with the pulp that you
    | briefly sauté to tenderize.
    |
    | Pastorio
    |

  20. FOB said:

    It was the texture I didn't like, too hard and the onions were also too
    hard.

    That too hard can be alleviated by introducing oatmeal or some other
    grain thing. Or TVP. I've used it successfully in ground meat dishes
    and it simply blended in and held juices and flavors.

    Quoted message said:

    Cooking them first would help, maybe just boiling in a little water

    Boiling the onions will lose a tremendous amount of flavor. Better to
    sauté or nuke them. Put the chopped onion in a covered dish and nuke
    until tender. No added water. Seasonings if you wish.

    Pastorio

    Quoted message said:

    even but I think I will try the dehydrated onions, being the lazy cook that
    I am. I used to have a Sloppy Joe recipe that called for preboiling the
    onions.

    In news:[email hidden],
    Bob (this one) <[email hidden]> stated
    | FOB wrote:
    |
    |
    | Why were you not impressed? Not intense enough flavor? Something not
    | quite right with texture?
    |
    | For flavor, try some beef base or good quality bouillon cubes as a
    | booster. Mash it together with some of the other ingredients,
    | particularly liquid ones and incorporate that into the whole loaf. Cut
    | back on salt if you do this. Some finely minced cooked bacon helps if
    | you don't want to use the beef base.
    |
    || I think what I didn't like was all the chunks of onion
    || which weren't as done as I would have liked. I used to put the
    || onion in the blender with the water which pretty much pulverized it.
    || Will have to figure out how to get it smushed without the water.
    |
    | Try this. Cut the onion in half from top to bottom and slice it thin.
    | In a skillet over low-medium heat with a couple tablespoons butter,
    | sauté the onion, stirring reasonably often until it's all well-browned
    | and heading towards crisp. Coarsely chop the cooked onion if you feel
    | the need. Incorporate that in the meatloaf and it'll bring an extra
    | layer of flavor and texture to it. The onions will be tender and
    | flavorful.
    |
    | There's a tedious technique that's simply wonderful for making a paste
    | of onion. Chop is as fine as you can with knife or processor and dump
    | it out onto a cutting board. Sprinkle some salt on it and, with the
    | flat side of a wide-bladed knife, smear it back and forth on the
    | cutting board. Put some muscle into it. After a short time of
    | smearing, it'll begin to be more like a puree. Keep doing it until
    | you've had enough of that exhausting foolishness and throw it all in
    | the processor and let it run. It also works with garlic - a few cloves
    | of garlic is pretty easy and turns out wonderful. The onions will,
    | too, but it's work.
    |
    | > I used my Salad Shooter for
    || the mushroom and zucchini but it doesn't work on onions. Dehydrated
    || onion flakes might work and would absorb some of the juices from the
    || meat, some of it came out and congealed in the pan.
    |
    | Dehydrated onion (flaked or chopped) will rehydrate with some of the
    | juices of the rest of the ingredients thus retaining some flavor while
    | contributing its own.
    |
    | If you have a juicer, run the onion through that along with a pepper
    | or two, some celery and a few carrots. Simmer that juice to reduce it
    | to about half. Mix that into the meatloaf along with the pulp that you
    | briefly sauté to tenderize.
    |
    | Pastorio
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