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  1. My wife and I have agreed to not push things on our children - even
    unicycling. They are free to have their own interests and hobbies.
    Earlier this year, I told my friends that I was ordering a 12 inch Sun
    for my 2 1/2 year old daughter just to have ready in the garage so that
    if she asked for a unicycle I would have one ready to go - just in
    case! I never did get around to making the order.

    Last week, my daughter surprised me by asking for a "pink unicycle". I
    was so excited I nearly jumped to the moon, but was initially caught
    off guard. I placed an order and received the unicycle today, but it
    doesn't fit her. Cutting the seat post down won't be enough to make it
    fit her. I think I will have to modify the frame too. I want to fix
    it while she is still interested in riding.

    Has anyone out there made modifications to the 12 inch Sun so that it
    will fit a small child?

    Has anyone out there taught a three year old to unicycle?

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  2. nope.
    My 4 yr old has been riding a skut bike( see balance bike) so has ok
    balance I looked at small unicycles but realized they still were too
    big... but I too am interested in what people have done for their
    kiddos, because ever since I received my nimbus 36er, my 4 yr has been
    asking for a 1 inch coker 🙂

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  3. BenNC said:

    My wife and I have agreed to not push things on our children - even
    unicycling. They are free to have their own interests and hobbies.
    Earlier this year, I told my friends that I was ordering a 12 inch Sun
    for my 2 1/2 year old daughter just to have ready in the garage so that
    if she asked for a unicycle I would have one ready to go - just in
    case! I never did get around to making the order.

    Last week, my daughter surprised me by asking for a "pink unicycle". I
    was so excited I nearly jumped to the moon, but was initially caught
    off guard. I placed an order and received the unicycle today, but it
    doesn't fit her. Cutting the seat post down won't be enough to make it
    fit her. I think I will have to modify the frame too. I want to fix
    it while she is still interested in riding.

    Has anyone out there made modifications to the 12 inch Sun so that it
    will fit a small child?

    Has anyone out there taught a three year old to unicycle?

    I cut down a 16" for my
    daughter.(http://mgrant.unicyclist.com/16inch_unicycle.html)

    and I also have a little 12" for my other daughter (who will soon be
    3). But, like you I noticed it had a tall frame. Steve Howard came to
    the rescue and built me a short frame for the little wheel.

    It's actually in one of the GSN videos (I cannot remember where they
    can be found - I have them locally).

    A picture of the little uni (along with most of my other UNIs) can be
    found at:
    http://tinyurl.com/343r8d

    -mg

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  4. I can't help you with the teaching issue, except to say it's probably
    about the same as everyone else; try a whole lot, fall a few times, and
    eventually get it. The main factor will be her persistence and
    dedication.

    I think it would be reasonable to do a chop-shop job on the Sun; it's a
    cheap uni anyway. You can use a hacksaw or jigsaw to cut down the seat
    tube, to maybe 1-2" above where the fork tubes are welded on. Then cut
    a slot on the back of the tube to give it some flexibility for
    inserting the seat post. Use a metal file to file down any burrs.

    The seat post clamp on that uni looks like it's welded to the seat
    tube, so you'll also need to pick up a seat post clamp at a local bike
    shop.

    That should work fine. Cutting down the seat tube will reduce how long
    she'll be able to use the uni as she gets bigger, but she'll probably
    be ready for a 16" or 20" by the time she outgrows it anyway.

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  5. nice collection!

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  6. tholub said:

    Cutting down the seat tube will reduce how long she'll be able to use
    the uni as she gets bigger, but she'll probably be ready for a 16" or
    20" by the time she outgrows it anyway.

    Or get a new post. She could use it as a stepping stone to learning
    new skills, like riding backwards, SIF, and SIB.

    My 16" was much better for getting comfortable w/ these for me, since I
    would be falling from a lower hight and speed.

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  7. I'm no expert. But as I recall, a 3 yr. old starts on a little tricycle.
    Then a bike with training wheels, then a regular bike. I think I was
    about 5 or 6 when I got to the regular bike stage. I think kids need to
    learn to pedal, balance a bike first.
    So perhaps her natural progression will have her ready to try a uni
    in 2 years or so. If you start her on the uni first, she may get
    frustrated and learn to dislike it. She likely has the coordination and
    patience of a 3 year old. So I wouldn't make her a uni until she wants
    one, and can already ride a bike. If you make her one now, it is
    unlikely she will understand why it doesn't "work".🙁

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  8. feel the light said:

    I'm no expert. But as I recall, a 3 yr. old starts on a little tricycle.
    Then a bike with training wheels, then a regular bike. I think I was
    about 5 or 6 when I got to the regular bike stage. I think kids need to
    learn to pedal, balance a bike first.

    The youngest report I've seen is of an 18-month-old learning to
    unicycle. Kids don't know what's impossible.

    Also, the skills required to ride a bike are really not relevant to
    learning how to unicycle.

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  9. feel the light said:

    I'm no expert. But as I recall, a 3 yr. old starts on a little tricycle.
    Then a bike with training wheels, then a regular bike. I think I was
    about 5 or 6 when I got to the regular bike stage. I think kids need to
    learn to pedal, balance a bike first.
    So perhaps her natural progression will have her ready to try a uni
    in 2 years or so. If you start her on the uni first, she may get
    frustrated and learn to dislike it. She likely has the coordination and
    patience of a 3 year old. So I wouldn't make her a uni until she wants
    one, and can already ride a bike. If you make her one now, it is
    unlikely she will understand why it doesn't "work".🙁

    Although unicyling is definately harder than biking, but they are
    somewhat different skills. But generally I agree w/ you.

    The youngest person to learn to ride: 18 months. I saw a pic a while
    ago of a 6 yr old, from the Tri Cities Unicle Club, doing some doing
    some level 6 skills.

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  10. Anthony Gatto could juggle 5 balls when he was 5, and 7 by seven. I
    guess what I meant was she might still benefit from learning the easy
    stuff first. But maybe I'm a bit prejudiced cause I liked my tricycle
    so much !🙂

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  11. A girl in our group was confidently riding her uni at 3yrs 0 mths.
    Later, when her parents introduced her to a bike, she didn't
    understand why she had to hold on to the stupid metal thing in front
    of her, and why turning was so complicated. (But now she's nine, and
    represents Hong Kong at indoor (bi)cycling, as well as unicycle
    hockey.)

  12. There was a 4 year old at NAUCC last year that was riding quite well.
    Her mother said she learned when she was 3. I have a pair of 4 year
    olds that I bought Sun unicycles for. UDC swapped out the seat post
    with an old coker seat post (I think) which was much shorter. Anyway,
    it made it small enough for my girls to put their feet on the pedals.
    That may not be small enough for a 2.5 yr old though. My girls can't
    ride a unicycle yet, but they like to get on them with me holding them
    up and pushing them around- back breaking job.

    It might also help to get shorter cranks. The cranks for the 12" sun
    are still farily long and any lean at all makes the pedal hit the
    ground. Not sure if shorter cranks are available or not.

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  13. I have a 12" SUN Unicycle that I bought for my 3 year old son. (His
    Birthday is today!) He does not seem to know how to pedal a tricycle
    yet but he is pretty coordinated. He jump off of 5 foot high monkey
    bars no problem and climbs right over our yard fence wchich is about 4
    1/2 ft. tall. I think even if you just put a 3 year old kid on the
    pedals of a unicycle they will automaticaly start balancing on it while
    holding onto something. It can't be bad to try. I also don't think that
    kids need to learn tricycles or bicycles first.

    Unicorn

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  14. here is a link to some info on shortening a frame,' link'
    (http://tinyurl.com/y59gfm)

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  15. I have a son who is 2 and a half. We had the same problem wth the 12"
    Sun. A friend took a child's tricycle and cut it down then welded it
    back together as a very short uni. A tricycle woks well for that since
    it already has the cranks attached to the wheel. I will try to find a
    better pic for you.

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  16. Hugh said:


    It might also help to get shorter cranks. The cranks for the 12" sun
    are still farily long and any lean at all makes the pedal hit the
    ground. Not sure if shorter cranks are available or not.

    for shorter cranks on UDC there is
    http://unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=179

    which the 89-mm ones are .5 inches shorter than the sun ones

    also most tricycles have the pedals through the front wheel so a shop
    job to turn the handles into a seat should work

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  17. Have seen small british uni kids with variously
    blocks on the pedals and or cut down frames. one lad also has a parent
    handle on the back of his uni so dad or mum ( who are rather tall) can
    support/push him with out breaking their own backs. a number of these
    j=kids have had a uni of their own from age 3 or so but realy only go
    going solo at 5ish. However they have enjoyed bringing THEIR uni to
    conventions as soon as they had one. The sight of a toddler pushing
    his uni across the hall in a pushchair is quite funny.

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  18. feel the light said:

    Anthony Gatto could juggle 5 balls when he was 5, and 7 by seven. I
    guess what I meant was she might still benefit from learning the easy
    stuff first. But maybe I'm a bit prejudiced cause I liked my tricycle
    so much !🙂

    tricycles are a total waste, and so are training wheels*...they don't
    teach side-side balance at all(especially if they touch the ground),
    which is the only point i can see in starting out with a bike...
    and by "easy stuff", i hope you mean unicycling.....

    *also very dangerous for a kid trying to turn, easy way to end up
    crashing...

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  19. BenNC said:

    My wife and I have agreed to not push things on our children - even
    unicycling. They are free to have their own interests and hobbies.
    Earlier this year, I told my friends that I was ordering a 12 inch Sun
    for my 2 1/2 year old daughter just to have ready in the garage so that
    if she asked for a unicycle I would have one ready to go - just in
    case! I never did get around to making the order.

    I ordered 12" Dodgers for both of my kids.

    My daughter asked for a unicycle for her 4th birthday. Even with the
    seatpost cut down and wooden blocks on the pedals she was only just
    able to reach the pedals. That was 18 months ago and I'm hoping that
    her legs will soon be long enough to remove the wooden blocks (she's
    very small for her age). Then she can start learning properly.

    I believe that being pushed around has been enough for her to start
    getting a feel for the balance and to learn how to dismount safely.
    And, of course, she loves having her own unicycle.

    My son, jealous of his big sister's unicycle, asked for one for his 3rd
    birthday. He's fairly big for his age, so I should hopefully be able
    to remove the wooden blocks from his pedals before he turns 5. He,
    too, loves having his own unicycle.

    I don't think it would be realistic for any child to learn to ride solo
    on a 12" with wooden blocks on the pedals.

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  20. hobo_chuck said:

    tricycles are a total waste, and so are training wheels*...they don't
    teach side-side balance at all(especially if they touch the ground),
    which is the only point i can see in starting out with a bike...
    and by "easy stuff", i hope you mean unicycling.....

    Tricycles do, however, teach pedalling, which turns out to be a very
    useful skill when the child is ready for a bike.

    I agree wholeheartedly that stabilisers are a waste of time. My
    daughter doesn't even know that her bike came with stabilisers - I
    never fitted them. Having been using a Like-a-Bike clone for some time
    before I bought her bike, once she got the bike she was off and
    pedalling on our second trip to the park :-)

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