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  1. The Weintraub study gave the following results.
    Overall, 64% of the 14 patients showed statistically significant
    improvement in the paresthesias of numbness and
    tingling. Peripheral neuropathy patients had the best response of the
    two groups, with 75% (6/8) improving, 38% (3/8) completely. The diabetic
    neuropathy group had a 50% responserate. VAS scores reflected the changes in
    decreased pain.

    http://web.ksl.com/dump/news/cc/diamag.htm

    Diabetes and Magnets A new study is out that confirms the apparent benefits of
    magnet therapy for diabetics. Specifically, wearing magnetic insoles can
    provide significant relief to diabetics who suffer from a painful condition
    called peripheral neuropathy. Dr. Max Gomez has details.

    It's a test that measures how well nerves are conducting signals from the feet.
    And the results for Jeanette Castner show that her diabetes has, in fact,
    damaged those nerves. In her case its made them extremely numb, which is much
    more serious than it sounds.

    Jeanette says, "All of a sudden you would see blood, because you had a
    blister." "You don't feel that at all?" "Well, I did lose a toe because of
    that."

    The problem is called diabetic neuropathy and it's a major disabler of people
    with diabetes. Dr. Michael Weintraub, of New York Medical College says, "You
    can have numbness and tingling like your feet are asleep or numb or tingling or
    burning to the point here you can't even put pressure on them."

    But Jeanette and other diabetics have gotten significant relief from their
    neuropathy by using an ancient alternative treatment-- magnets. Nineteen
    patients in a well-designed scientific study published January 11 in the
    American Journal of Pain Management wore magnetic insoles around the clock
    except while showering. They they rated their pain twice a day for four months.
    The trick was making sure the pain relief was really due to the magnets.

    Dr. Weintraub explains, "So, I created a design to have the pt test one foot as
    a control against a real magnet on the other foot, and then after one month,
    switch them. So, in the other month they would havae a magnet on the opposite
    foot and a sham magnet or device on the other foot, so they would not know
    which ones they were."

    Both the foot with the fake and the real magnet got some pain relief but when
    they were switched to real magnets, 90 percent of the diabetics got
    significantly better from their neuropathy.

    Jeanette says, "But since the magnetic chips, it's ironic how I don't, I still
    have numbness but it's decreased."

    As to why magnets seem to work, there are a few theories but the bottom line
    is, no one really knows. Curiously, the magnetic insoles don't work as well on
    foot pain from causes other than diabetes.

  2. (Jan) said:

    Diabetes and Magnets
    A new study is out that confirms the apparent benefits of
    magnet therapy for diabetics.

    Which proves what idiots do such studies. We did some research on
    magnets and found all kinds (!) of uses of magnets to be fraud.

    That Jan Drew uses this "study" to spread false news to support
    "alternative" stuff via image polishing is no wonder : Jan Drew is an
    advertizing agency for quacks and sharlatans.

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm

  3. "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    Diabetes and Magnets
    A new study is out that confirms the apparent benefits of
    magnet therapy for diabetics.

    Which proves what idiots do such studies.


    Names please. Why do you think such investigation was done by "idiots"?

    Quoted message said:

    We did some research on
    magnets


    Um, who is "We"?

    Quoted message said:

    and found all kinds (!) of uses of magnets to be fraud.

    All, huh? Hmmm.

  4. --

    "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    Diabetes and Magnets
    A new study is out that confirms the apparent benefits of
    magnet therapy for diabetics.

    Which proves what idiots do such studies. We did some research on
    magnets and found all kinds (!) of uses of magnets to be fraud.

    Aribert Deckers

    Hmm. Perhaps MRI's might have some legitimate use. Oh, and in the emergency
    room we sometimes use a magnet to remove a ferrous foreign body from an eye.
    A magnet can be used to temporarily turn off some cardiac pacemakers to do
    an unpaced EKG. So maybe not ALL uses of magnets are fraudulent.

    ;o) Rich

  5. Quoted message said:

    Subject: Re: Magnets help neuropathy
    From: "David" [email hidden]
    Date: 9/17/2003 7:48 AM Pacific Standard Time
    Message-id: <[email hidden]>

    "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    Diabetes and Magnets
    A new study is out that confirms the apparent benefits of
    magnet therapy for diabetics.

    Which proves what idiots do such studies.


    Names please. Why do you think such investigation was done by "idiots"?

    Quoted message said:

    We did some research on
    magnets


    Um, who is "We"?

    Quoted message said:

    and found all kinds (!) of uses of magnets to be fraud.

    All, huh? Hmmm.

    Poor deluded Happy. I happen to KNOW they help, as I have PN.

    Happy is a wacko.

    Jan

  6. "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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    Quoted message said:
    Rich Shewmaker said:

    "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On 17 Sep 2003 06:48:04 GMT, [email hidden] (Jan) wrote:

    >Diabetes and Magnets
    >A new study is out that confirms the apparent benefits of
    >magnet therapy for diabetics.

    Which proves what idiots do such studies. We did some research on
    magnets and found all kinds (!) of uses of magnets to be fraud.

    Aribert Deckers

    Hmm. Perhaps MRI's might have some legitimate use. Oh, and in the


    emergency

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    room we sometimes use a magnet to remove a ferrous foreign body from an


    eye.

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    A magnet can be used to temporarily turn off some cardiac pacemakers to


    do

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    an unpaced EKG. So maybe not ALL uses of magnets are fraudulent.

    Well, I did not mean those things.


    Squirming.......................

    I meant the use of magnets for

    Quoted message said:

    therapies - the magnetic field is claimed to have certains effects on
    tissues, blood, etc...


    Please post the "tests" that you performed on "all" devices.

    Quoted message said:


    There is - just as an example - an electronic device which costs about
    2800 US-Dollars. The material value of the really needed parts is
    below 10 US-Dollars...


    No one is twisting your arm to buy one.

    And the "therapy" is none.
    In your opinion.

    Quoted message said:


    This device is sold to MDs, chiropractors, etc...,


    Wonder why they buy and use them? Perhaps their research does not agree with
    your "opinion"?

    who then sell the

    Quoted message said:

    "therapies" (of about 15 minutes each) to their patients.


    Hate to disturb your dreamworld, but, that is how the medical biz works.

    In the north

    Quoted message said:

    of Germany alone the damage by this exceeds 100 Mio Dollar per year.

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm

  7. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 15:48:41 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:


    "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    Diabetes and Magnets
    A new study is out that confirms the apparent benefits of
    magnet therapy for diabetics.

    Which proves what idiots do such studies.


    Names please. Why do you think such investigation was done by "idiots"?

    Quoted message said:

    We did some research on
    magnets


    Um, who is "We"?

    Quoted message said:

    and found all kinds (!) of uses of magnets to be fraud.

    All, huh? Hmmm.

    Yes, all kinds.

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm

  8. Rich Shewmaker said:

    "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:
    (Jan) said:

    Diabetes and Magnets
    A new study is out that confirms the apparent benefits of
    magnet therapy for diabetics.

    Which proves what idiots do such studies. We did some research on
    magnets and found all kinds (!) of uses of magnets to be fraud.

    Aribert Deckers

    Hmm. Perhaps MRI's might have some legitimate use. Oh, and in the emergency
    room we sometimes use a magnet to remove a ferrous foreign body from an eye.
    A magnet can be used to temporarily turn off some cardiac pacemakers to do
    an unpaced EKG. So maybe not ALL uses of magnets are fraudulent.

    Well, I did not mean those things. I meant the use of magnets for
    therapies - the magnetic field is claimed to have certains effects on
    tissues, blood, etc...

    There is - just as an example - an electronic device which costs about
    2800 US-Dollars. The material value of the really needed parts is
    below 10 US-Dollars... And the "therapy" is none.

    This device is sold to MDs, chiropractors, etc..., who then sell the
    "therapies" (of about 15 minutes each) to their patients. In the north
    of Germany alone the damage by this exceeds 100 Mio Dollar per year.

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm

  9. How did you get this way?
    "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:02:30 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There is - just as an example - an electronic device which costs about
    2800 US-Dollars. The material value of the really needed parts is
    below 10 US-Dollars...

    Quoted message said:

    No one is twisting your arm to buy one.

    This shows the world one of your major driving forces : GREED! And
    your typical excuse (the typical excuse of all snakeoil dealers) :

    "It was the buyer's own fault. No one forced him to buy."

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm

  10. On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:02:30 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:
    Quoted message said:

    There is - just as an example - an electronic device which costs about
    2800 US-Dollars. The material value of the really needed parts is
    below 10 US-Dollars...

    Quoted message said:

    No one is twisting your arm to buy one.

    This shows the world one of your major driving forces : GREED! And
    your typical excuse (the typical excuse of all snakeoil dealers) :

    "It was the buyer's own fault. No one forced him to buy."

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm

  11. On Thu, 18 Sep 2003 10:34:20 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    How did you get this way?

    It's in the genes, you know. Some people are bright, others are
    MLM-ers...

    Regards,

    Aribert Deckers
    -----

    Quoted message said:

    "Happy Oyster" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
    news:[email hidden]...

    Quoted message said:

    On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 20:02:30 GMT, "David" <[email hidden]>

    Quoted message said:

    > There is - just as an example - an electronic device which costs about
    > 2800 US-Dollars. The material value of the really needed parts is
    > below 10 US-Dollars...

    Quoted message said:

    No one is twisting your arm to buy one.

    This shows the world one of your major driving forces : GREED! And
    your typical excuse (the typical excuse of all snakeoil dealers) :

    "It was the buyer's own fault. No one forced him to buy."

    Aribert Deckers
    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm


    --
    POLICE - POLIZEI - POLITIE - POLICIA

    http://www.ariplex.com/ama/amapolis.htm

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