Made IN the U.S.A.

IMKen said:

Anyone have a list of bikes and bike components made in the U.S.A.?

Buy U.S. made products. We need the jobs.

ken

Sorry, can't help. But I can get you a pretty good list of French made bike
and bike components.

Buy French made products. We need the jobs.

IMKen-<< Buy U.S. made products. We need the jobs. >><BR><BR>

Make sure you vote in November!!!!

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

I get to vote in October! (Absentee ballot in Florida). Of course they don't
bother counting my vote unless it's real close like in 2000.

Qui si parla Campagnolo said:

IMKen-<< Buy U.S. made products. We need the jobs. >><BR><BR>

Make sure you vote in November!!!!

Peter Chisholm
Vecchio's Bicicletteria
1833 Pearl St.
Boulder, CO, 80302
(303)440-3535
http://www.vecchios.com
"Ruote convenzionali costruite eccezionalmente bene"

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IMKen said:

Anyone have a list of bikes and bike components made in the U.S.A.?

Buy U.S. made products. We need the jobs.

ken

Sorry, can't help. But I can get you a pretty good list of French made

bike

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and bike components.

Buy French made products. We need the jobs.

Apparently, black market business with Sadaam Hussein in violation of the UN
trade embargo and it's Oil For Food program didn't provided enough of a
boost to France's economy.....

Buy from Oregon businesses.... Oregon's economy was hit hardest by the
economic downturn. Oregon has the highest unemployment rate of any state in
the USA. My first shop opened in Oregon and is still in business there.

Stuart Winsor
Ground Zero Cycles
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IMKen said:

Anyone have a list of bikes and bike components made in the U.S.A.?

Buy U.S. made products. We need the jobs.

ken

Sorry, can't help. But I can get you a pretty good list of French
made bike and bike components.

Buy French made products. We need the jobs.

Apparently, black market business with Sadaam Hussein in violation of
the UN trade embargo and it's Oil For Food program didn't provided
enough of a boost to France's economy.....

Buy from Oregon businesses.... Oregon's economy was hit hardest by the
economic downturn. Oregon has the highest unemployment rate of any
state in the USA. My first shop opened in Oregon and is still in
business there.

Stuart Winsor
Ground Zero Cycles
[email hidden]

Apparently neither did years of US arms sales to Iraq, turning a blind eye
while Saddam illegally shiped his oil out through US allies like Turkey (to
be bought primarily by the gas hungry U S of A), selling of biological
precursors approved by the the USDA (botulism among others) and embargo
violating deals with Saddam by Haliburton while Cheney was in charge.

Saddam always preferred to buy American when he could. "We need the jobs".

Buy from France. A country that actually fully supports professional bike
racing at all levels.

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Buy French made products. We need the jobs.

Apparently, black market business with Sadaam Hussein in violation of
the UN trade embargo and it's Oil For Food program didn't provided
enough of a boost to France's economy.....

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Apparently neither did years of US arms sales to Iraq, turning a blind eye
while Saddam illegally shiped his oil out through US allies like Turkey

(to

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be bought primarily by the gas hungry U S of A), selling of biological
precursors approved by the the USDA (botulism among others) and embargo
violating deals with Saddam by Haliburton while Cheney was in charge.

Saddam always preferred to buy American when he could. "We need the jobs".

Buy from France. A country that actually fully supports professional bike
racing at all levels.

My mom lives in France.... the Tour actually rode right under her window one
year. The French on whole hate Americans. Yet, there are thousands of white
crosses on the bluffs above Normandy commorating the lives of American
servicemen who died to free a country that did very little to defend itself
against [censored]'s armies.

Welcome to Current Events 101..... US supported Hussein in Iraq's war
against Iran, at a time when it was the lesser of the two evils... not a
simple solution, but one that was necessary at the time. Blackmarket Iraqi
oil went to Germany, France, and Russia.... well documented by the UN. It
didn't go to the US.

Please don't keep me in suspense... in what way did Haliburton violate the
embargo?

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> Buy French made products. We need the jobs.

Apparently, black market business with Sadaam Hussein in violation
of the UN trade embargo and it's Oil For Food program didn't
provided enough of a boost to France's economy.....

<snip>

Apparently neither did years of US arms sales to Iraq, turning a
blind eye while Saddam illegally shiped his oil out through US
allies like Turkey (to be bought primarily by the gas hungry U S of
A), selling of biological precursors approved by the the USDA
(botulism among others) and embargo violating deals with Saddam by
Haliburton while Cheney was in charge.

Saddam always preferred to buy American when he could. "We need the
jobs".

Buy from France. A country that actually fully supports professional
bike racing at all levels.

My mom lives in France.... the Tour actually rode right under her
window one year. The French on whole hate Americans. Yet, there are
thousands of white crosses on the bluffs above Normandy commorating
the lives of American servicemen who died to free a country that did
very little to defend itself against [censored]'s armies.

Welcome to Current Events 101..... US supported Hussein in Iraq's war
against Iran, at a time when it was the lesser of the two evils...
not a simple solution, but one that was necessary at the time.
Blackmarket Iraqi oil went to Germany, France, and Russia.... well
documented by the UN. It didn't go to the US.

Please don't keep me in suspense... in what way did Haliburton
violate the embargo?

With all due respect to your mom, I have lived in France for the last 10
years. The French do not hate Americans and if you actually talk to to
people here, rather than preach at them (or get your worldview from Fox),
you'll see that they feel a great deal of gratitude to us for our our
sacrifice in WWII. It's a source of great frustration to me that this view
persists in the US. But that's the way stereotypes are. My aunt is currently
visiting me. It's her first time in France. Every day she says she can't get
over how friendly the people have been to her. "I thought the French hated
Americans".

On the whole, the French do not like much of what the US government is
currently doing in the world. But, then they're not alone in that. Much of
the US and most of the rest of the world feels the same.

The US and France governments have both been smarmy and hypocritical when it
came to dealing with Saddam's Iraq before and after sanctions when it suited
them and when it was to their advantage. There were 500 trucks a day hauling
Saddam's oil from Iraq into Turkey in violition of the oil for food program
and the embargo. To think that the US didn't know about it and look the
other way because of the benefit to it's ally Turkey stretches credulity
beyond reason.

The kickbacks from the oil sales were reported to have gone to individuals
from Russia, France, England, Switzerland, Jordan, Turkey, etc (it seems
that Saddam had a policy against dealing with Americans, but that
possibility has not been totally ruled out even by the Republicans in
Congress). The oil itself went to the usual companies like texaco shell
chevron, etc.

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Buy from Oregon businesses.... Oregon's economy was hit hardest by the
economic downturn. Oregon has the highest unemployment rate of any state

in

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the USA. My first shop opened in Oregon and is still in business there.

Stuart Winsor
Ground Zero Cycles
[email hidden]

Where is your shop? I'm in Albany.

Arlie Cooper