Mad Cow---can you get from eating steak?



"it was the animals that had all the yucky stuff mixed with their feed , so in turn yes ,people were
eating it but only second hand and unknowingly.as for the steak every cut/piece of the meat gets
contaminated. the store shelves were empty of all things beef even down to beef stock cubes or
anything that is a derivative of beef extract.and yes i would be worried if i were you. in
situations like this there is rarely such a thing as an isolated case, there will be more
unfortunately.
 
paula <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> "it was the animals that had all the yucky stuff mixed with their feed , so in turn yes ,people
> were eating it but only second hand and unknowingly.as for the steak every cut/piece of the meat
> gets contaminated. the store shelves were empty of all things beef even down to beef stock cubes
> or anything that is a derivative of beef extract.and yes i would be worried if i were you. in
> situations like this there is rarely such a thing as an isolated case, there will be more
> unfortunately.

And some things not obviously beef related - and more likely to have spinal cord fluid - are still
on the shelves. Can you say gummi bears? Jello? Gelatin??

JonquilJan

Learn something new every day As long as you are learning, you are living When you stop learning,
you start dying
 
"Minnime" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>...
> illegal or legal---no human being deserves to be treated to the conditions and abuse the face.
> **** these people are only trying to feed their family, yet when they get an injury that keeps the
> out of work they have no medical and risk being fired, etc.

I think he was trolling you. The sad part is, it is because many are illegal, or poor, or don't
speak English (or all three) that they will put up with the abuse and injuries. Things haven't
really changed all that much since Sinclair wrote The Jungle - or, in fact, they have reverted to
the conditions similar to what occurred back then.

-L.
 
Just found out today that many yogurts have gelatin, which is a meat product (my vegetarian sister
is staying with me). 2 out of 3 of the yogurt brands in my fridge had it.

Janet

"JonquilJan" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:[email protected]...
> paula <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "it was the animals that had all the yucky stuff mixed with their feed , so in turn yes ,people
> > were eating it but only second hand and unknowingly.as for the steak every cut/piece of the meat
> > gets contaminated. the store shelves were empty of all things beef even down to beef stock cubes
> > or anything that is a derivative of beef extract.and yes i would be worried if i were you. in
> > situations like this there is rarely such a thing as an isolated case, there will be more
> > unfortunately.
>
> And some things not obviously beef related - and more likely to have
spinal
> cord fluid - are still on the shelves. Can you say gummi bears? Jello? Gelatin??
>
> JonquilJan
>
> Learn something new every day As long as you are learning, you are living When you stop learning,
> you start dying
 
On 12/27/2003 10:43 AM, in article
[email protected], "Minnime"
<[email protected]> opined:

> illegal or legal---no human being deserves to be treated to the conditions and abuse the face.

If they didn't break the law they wouldn't face abuse.

Action/Consequence

It's not America's fault Mexico is the filthiest most corrupt country on the planet? Is it?

**** these people are only trying to feed their family,
> yet when they get an injury that keeps the out of work they have no medical and risk being
> fired, etc.
>
> "The Wolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BC124D1E.4AF7A%[email protected]...
>> On 12/26/2003 8:00 PM, in article [email protected], "Minnime"
>> <[email protected]> opined:
>>
>>> I read Fast Food Nation and I didnt find it to be an attack on the food industry. I thought it
>>> was factual and to the point. Seeing how
> immigrant
>>> slaughterhouse employees are treated disgusted me more than the sanitary conditions.
>>
>> Why'd you leave out the word "illegal?"
>>
>>>
>>> "Kitanis" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:[email protected]...
>>>> On 26 Dec 2003 01:48:34 -0800, [email protected] (-L.) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Minnime" <[email protected]> wrote in message
>>> news:<[email protected]>...
>>>>>> First of all I am not panicing, nor worrying. I think the US beef
>>> supply is
>>>>>> safe
>>>>>
>>>>> First: two books you need to read: "Fast Food Nation" and "Slaughterhouse". Deregulation and
>>>>> unscrupulous appointments to the regulatory commissions under the Reagan/Bush regimes totally
>>>>> ruined the "wholesomeness" of the US meat industry.
>>>>>
>>>>>> and this was an isolated incident. However I am reading conflicting stories on how Mad Cow
>>>>>> can be transferred to humans. I have read that hamburger could be suspect, yet steak is not.
>>>>>> Muscle is not. Was the
>>> problem
>>>>>> in britain that people were eating(yuck) the brain and spinal cord?
>>> Very
>>>>>> confused so someone enlighten me please.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any meat that is contaminated with infected tissue could cause a problem. When you understand
>>>>> the process of slaughtering, and the high incidence of contamination - with not only bodily
>>>>> fluids (e.g. spinal fluid) but feces, blood and other tissues - you may better understand the
>>>>> real concern.
>>>>>
>>>>> -L.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have read Fast Food Nation.. the problem with this tome is. it is very full of unproven
>>>> examples and is in fact an attack on the food industry as a whole.. Peta's Ra Ra book so to
>>>> speak.
>>>>
>>>> But the Slaughterhouse book is a bit more interesting.
>>>>
>>>> I disagree with the Dregulation statement though.. I mean if this is indeed the problem.. then
>>>> why was it not "fixed" under the Clinton administration.. Sounds very much like pointing
>>>> fingures to me..
>>>>
>>>> Concerned.. Of course I am concerned.. I mean you have ONE example of Mad Cow Disease in the US
>>>> and Canada.. But for the last four years you have deer population also contracting Chronic
>>>> Wasting Disease which is somewhat simular..
>>>>
>>>> Kit
>>>
>>>
>>
>> --
>> ========================================================
>> "Michael, we're bigger than U. S. Steel," Hyman Roth.
>> ========================================================
>>
>
>

--
"It is not the critic who counts: not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where
the doer of deeds could have done better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the
arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly, who errs and comes
up short again and again, because there is no effort without error or shortcoming, but who knows the
great enthusiasms, the great devotions, who spends himself for a worthy cause; who, at the best,
knows, in the end, the triumph of high achievement, and who, at the worst, if he fails, at least he
fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who
knew neither victory nor defeat," Theodore Roosevelt.

"Citizenship in a Republic," Speech at the Sorbonne, Paris, April 23, 1910
 
"The Wolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BC1383FC.4B0AF%[email protected]...

>
> If they didn't break the law they wouldn't face abuse.

That is horseshit. Poor, uneducated, LEGAL, workers get abused in that industry as well. It is just
if you are illegal they have something more to hang over their heads.

> Action/Consequence
>
> It's not America's fault Mexico is the filthiest most corrupt country on
the
> planet? Is it?

What is your point here?
 
On 12/27/2003 8:10 PM, in article
[email protected], "Minnime"
<[email protected]> opined:

>
> "The Wolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:BC1383FC.4B0AF%[email protected]...
>
>>
>> If they didn't break the law they wouldn't face abuse.
>
> That is horseshit. Poor, uneducated, LEGAL, workers get abused in that industry as well. It is
> just if you are illegal they have something more to hang over their heads.
>
>> Action/Consequence
>>
>> It's not America's fault Mexico is the filthiest most corrupt country on
> the
>> planet? Is it?
>
> What is your point here?
>
>

My point is criminals do NOT have rights.

Do I need to break it down further or do you understand?
--
========================================================================
Jules of "Pulp Fiction" fame:

There's a passage I got memorized, seems appropriate for this situation: Ezekiel 25:17. "The path of
the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and tyranny of evil men.
Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of
darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and finder of lost children. And I will strike down
upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to poison and destroy my
brothers. AND YOU WILL KNOW MY NAME IS THE LORD WHEN I LAY BY VENGEANCE UP0N YOU!"
=========================================================================
 
JonquilJan wrote:
>
> paula <[email protected]> wrote in message
> news:[email protected]...
> > "it was the animals that had all the yucky stuff mixed with their feed , so in turn yes ,people
> > were eating it but only second hand and unknowingly.as for the steak every cut/piece of the meat
> > gets contaminated. the store shelves were empty of all things beef even down to beef stock cubes
> > or anything that is a derivative of beef extract.and yes i would be worried if i were you. in
> > situations like this there is rarely such a thing as an isolated case, there will be more
> > unfortunately.
>
> And some things not obviously beef related - and more likely to have spinal cord fluid - are still
> on the shelves. Can you say gummi bears? Jello? Gelatin??
>
> JonquilJan

Gelatin isn't made from spinal cord fluid. What a strange notion.
 
Yes please break it down further---I would love to hear your logic on why it is alright for illegal
immigrants to be abused, taken advantage of, etc.

"The Wolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
news:BC13A649.4B0ED%[email protected]...
> On 12/27/2003 8:10 PM, in article [email protected], "Minnime"
> <[email protected]> opined:
>
> >
> > "The Wolf" <[email protected]> wrote in message
> > news:BC1383FC.4B0AF%[email protected]...
> >
> >>
> >> If they didn't break the law they wouldn't face abuse.
> >
> > That is horseshit. Poor, uneducated, LEGAL, workers get abused in that industry as well. It is
> > just if you are illegal they have something more
to
> > hang over their heads.
> >
> >> Action/Consequence
> >>
> >> It's not America's fault Mexico is the filthiest most corrupt country
on
> > the
> >> planet? Is it?
> >
> > What is your point here?
> >
> >
>
> My point is criminals do NOT have rights.
>
> Do I need to break it down further or do you understand?
> --
> ========================================================================
> Jules of "Pulp Fiction" fame:
>
>
> There's a passage I got memorized, seems appropriate for this situation: Ezekiel 25:17. "The path
> of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish and tyranny of evil
> men. Blessed is he who, in
the
> name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly
> his brother's keeper and finder of lost
children.
> And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attempt to
> poison and destroy my brothers. AND YOU WILL KNOW MY NAME IS THE LORD WHEN I LAY BY VENGEANCE
> UP0N YOU!"
> =========================================================================
 
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