M*DGE

gwyn said:

My first experience of them. I went to Skye on my Scotland Holiday
Stayed at the Sligachan campsite and there really bad. I thought you
where all joking about them

<fx: sounds of hollow laughter echo round the NG...>

Quoted message said:

and I thought they cant be that bad.

Hahahahahhahaa!!!!!!!!!

<fx: pant, pant....>

Quoted message said:

Well I was WRONG. They even sell midge nets at £5 a go and midge
repellant at £5 and £7 probably for the really bad days.
When I got up in the morning you see people floating about and they
all look like beekeepers and then this bloke sprayed his head with the
repellant v funny. I got back from my walk up to the cuillins and
after leaving the pub early just before sunset realised this was a
mistake and got attacked around the head,

That's them....

Quoted message said:

It was so bad I didn't want
them in my tent I gave up and went back to the pub for another pint I
was scratching my head for 30 minutes. When I'd finished my first I
saw someone come in saying those little b********

Yup!

Quoted message said:

so realised I needed
another pint

Yup!!!

Quoted message said:

to brave going back to the tent. I got up the next day to
find loads had gotten into the tent over night. It was a good job we
where going home as I couldn't have standed another day of it.
Anyways I went up to Bealach nan lice got some nice photos and great
views but I realise that further walking to do a munro was pushing my
limits the Cuillins are serious fells.

Welcome to midge-land :-)

My first introduction to the Demon Midges was as a student with the
University OTC camping in Scotland. There was an outbreak of
chickenpox on the camp, but almost the entire bunch of us were ferried
off to Faslane Naval Base because the midge bites were so bad that the
medics couldn't tell who had midge bites and who had chickenpox!

Bleuch....

<fx: scratch, scratch, scratch...>

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

"gwyn" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

My first experience of them. I went to Skye on my Scotland Holiday
Stayed at the Sligachan campsite and there really bad. I thought you
where all joking about them and I thought they cant be that bad.
Well I was WRONG. They even sell midge nets at £5 a go and midge
repellant at £5 and £7 probably for the really bad days.
When I got up in the morning you see people floating about and they
all look like beekeepers and then this bloke sprayed his head with the
repellant v funny. I got back from my walk up to the cuillins and
after leaving the pub early just before sunset realised this was a
mistake and got attacked around the head, It was so bad I didn't want
them in my tent I gave up and went back to the pub for another pint I
was scratching my head for 30 minutes. When I'd finished my first I
saw someone come in saying those little b******** so realised I needed
another pint to brave going back to the tent. I got up the next day to
find loads had gotten into the tent over night. It was a good job we
where going home as I couldn't have standed another day of it.
Anyways I went up to Bealach nan lice got some nice photos and great
views but I realise that further walking to do a munro was pushing my
limits the Cuillins are serious fells.
--
Gwyn. [email hidden]

Do you know what is *commonly* known ? There are no midges on Skye because
it's always windy. HAHAHA. We know better.
P.S. I'll be in Scotland in 17 days time and I'm very allergic for the
little beasties. Is there a windgod ?

Theo

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
wonderful person Peewiglet <[email hidden]> said
<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to brave going back to the tent. I got up the next day to
find loads had gotten into the tent over night. It was a good job we
where going home as I couldn't have standed another day of it.
Anyways I went up to Bealach nan lice got some nice photos and great
views but I realise that further walking to do a munro was pushing my
limits the Cuillins are serious fells.

Welcome to midge-land :-)

The good news is that Global Warming may well wipe them out .. or push
them out to the Hebrides, or something. Keep driving the 4x4s.

The bad news is we'll probably have malarial mossies instead, but maybe
not quite that far North.

--
GSV Three Minds in a Can
Outgoing Msgs are Turing Tested,and indistinguishable from human typing.

"theo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

"gwyn" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

My first experience of them. I went to Skye on my Scotland Holiday
Stayed at the Sligachan campsite and there really bad. I thought you
where all joking about them and I thought they cant be that bad.
Well I was WRONG. They even sell midge nets at £5 a go and midge
repellant at £5 and £7 probably for the really bad days.
When I got up in the morning you see people floating about and they
all look like beekeepers and then this bloke sprayed his head with the
repellant v funny. I got back from my walk up to the cuillins and
after leaving the pub early just before sunset realised this was a
mistake and got attacked around the head, It was so bad I didn't want
them in my tent I gave up and went back to the pub for another pint I
was scratching my head for 30 minutes. When I'd finished my first I
saw someone come in saying those little b******** so realised I needed
another pint to brave going back to the tent. I got up the next day to
find loads had gotten into the tent over night. It was a good job we
where going home as I couldn't have standed another day of it.
Anyways I went up to Bealach nan lice got some nice photos and great
views but I realise that further walking to do a munro was pushing my
limits the Cuillins are serious fells.
--
Gwyn. [email hidden]

Do you know what is *commonly* known ? There are no midges on Skye because
it's always windy. HAHAHA. We know better.
P.S. I'll be in Scotland in 17 days time and I'm very allergic for the
little beasties. Is there a windgod ?

Why not try this! An elecrotic deterant! I'd like to know if they work;-)

MOSQUITO CONTRO
MosquitoContro is an environmentally friendly, electronic repeller that
replicates the wing-beat frequency of the dragonfly, the foremost predator
of the mosquitoes that bite. Taking advantage of the mosquito's natural
avoidance of the dragonfly, the MosquitoContro keeps them at distance
without odours, oils, creams or chemicals. Worn on the wrist or the ankle.

£7.50 inc VAT

http://www.bensen.co.uk/

LOL
--

Regards,
Chris,

Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
http://www.craven-birds.co.uk/
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by the Norton auto-updated
anti-virus system.

Craven Birds wrote on Wed, 11 Aug 2004 23:44:25 +0100....

Quoted message said:

elecrotic....
replicates the wing-beat frequency of the dragonfly

You mean, a type of vibrator? :-)

--
Tim Jackson
[email hidden]
(Change '.invalid' to '.co.uk' to reply direct)
Absurd patents: visit http://www.patent.freeserve.co.uk

Tim Jackson said:

Quoted message said:

elecrotic....
replicates the wing-beat frequency of the dragonfly

You mean, a type of vibrator? :-)

It doesn't stop 'em biting ..... but your mind's on other things!

"Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

gwyn said:

My first experience of them. I went to Skye on my Scotland Holiday
Stayed at the Sligachan campsite and there really bad. I thought you
where all joking about them

<fx: sounds of hollow laughter echo round the NG...>

Quoted message said:

and I thought they cant be that bad.

Hahahahahhahaa!!!!!!!!!

<fx: pant, pant....>

Quoted message said:

Well I was WRONG. They even sell midge nets at £5 a go and midge
repellant at £5 and £7 probably for the really bad days.
When I got up in the morning you see people floating about and they
all look like beekeepers and then this bloke sprayed his head with the
repellant v funny. I got back from my walk up to the cuillins and
after leaving the pub early just before sunset realised this was a
mistake and got attacked around the head,

That's them....

Quoted message said:

It was so bad I didn't want
them in my tent I gave up and went back to the pub for another pint I
was scratching my head for 30 minutes. When I'd finished my first I
saw someone come in saying those little b********

Yup!

Quoted message said:

so realised I needed
another pint

Yup!!!

Quoted message said:

to brave going back to the tent. I got up the next day to
find loads had gotten into the tent over night. It was a good job we
where going home as I couldn't have standed another day of it.
Anyways I went up to Bealach nan lice got some nice photos and great
views but I realise that further walking to do a munro was pushing my
limits the Cuillins are serious fells.

Welcome to midge-land :-)

My first introduction to the Demon Midges was as a student with the
University OTC camping in Scotland.

Woah, university OTC - pretendy officers? Tells me *all* I need to know.
Midges hate "Nigels" and "Nigellas". If you had a few tats, swore better and
frightened the officers, the midges would have left you alone :-)
Sorry but university OTC makes me laugh, I have to, or else I'd spew.....
Never mind the OP called the Cuillin "serious fells". Fells? What is the
world coming to. Dearie me............

KRO

"GSV Three Minds in a Can" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Bitstring <[email hidden]>, from the
wonderful person Peewiglet <[email hidden]> said
<snip>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

to brave going back to the tent. I got up the next day to
find loads had gotten into the tent over night. It was a good job we
where going home as I couldn't have standed another day of it.
Anyways I went up to Bealach nan lice got some nice photos and great
views but I realise that further walking to do a munro was pushing my
limits the Cuillins are serious fells.

Welcome to midge-land :-)

The good news is that Global Warming may well wipe them out .. or push
them out to the Hebrides, or something. Keep driving the 4x4s.

Global Warming? I'll have some of that, when, where and for how long?

KRO

Craven Birds <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Why not try this! An elecrotic deterant! I'd like to know if they work;-)

They probably get clothes cleaner, anyway. But can you get non-
boilogic deterants, and is it ok to wash Goretecks in them?

;-)
--
Gordon

Quoted message said:

Woah, university OTC - pretendy officers? Tells me *all* I need to
know.

No no. University OTC - drinking club.

Having said that the local OTC up here entered a team for the Cambrian and
came away with a silver medal a few years ago.

KRO said:

Never mind the OP called the Cuillin "serious fells". Fells? What is the
world coming to. Dearie me............

Doesn't seem that unreasonable to me. The Gaelic suffix -bhal &
anglicized equivalent -val are used in a few places on Skye.

Bernie

"Bernie Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

KRO said:

Never mind the OP called the Cuillin "serious fells". Fells? What is the
world coming to. Dearie me............

Doesn't seem that unreasonable to me. The Gaelic suffix -bhal &
anglicized equivalent -val are used in a few places on Skye.

Bernie

"Fells" is a word I associate with Englands topography. You got me thinking,
I couldn't see why there would be a link, so I looked.....

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/md1933/f.htm
QUOTE

Fell (topographical), though regularly used in old documents, especially in
the plural, for an uncultivated hillside, is not now heard in the dialect,
though it occurs in many place-names.

A contributor to the Year Book of the Viking Society for 1912 (page 50)
draws attention to a mistake made by Captain Thomas in handling the
place-names of the Western Isles, and " perpetuated by every writer since ";
namely, that -bhal, sometimes written -mheall, and in maps -val in names of
hills, always represents fjall. Fjall means, it is pointed out, a mountain
or mountain range, as distinguished from a fell or hill. " Fell " as a
suffix is the Old Norse hvdll, which is still the name in Iceland for a
small piece of rising ground somewhat larger than a hall or knoll, but not
so large as a fell-i.e., a fjall.

UNQUOTE

Now where's my Year Book of the Viking Society 1912?

Are we way off topic yet?

KRO

"KRO" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Now where's my Year Book of the Viking Society 1912?

Mentioning Vikings is bringing you pretty close to spam....
--
"A kilt opens up new possibilities."
- Gary D. Schwartz in rec.backcountry

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:03:41 +0000 (UTC), "KRO" <[email hidden]> wrote:

<snippy>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Welcome to midge-land :-)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My first introduction to the Demon Midges was as a student with the
University OTC camping in Scotland.

Quoted message said:

Woah, university OTC - pretendy officers? Tells me *all* I need to know.
Midges hate "Nigels" and "Nigellas". If you had a few tats, swore better and
frightened the officers, the midges would have left you alone :-)
Sorry but university OTC makes me laugh, I have to, or else I'd spew.....
Never mind the OP called the Cuillin "serious fells". Fells? What is the
world coming to. Dearie me............

Goodness me... what a lot of ugliness to direct towards a total
stranger! Heaven help those you have reason to dislike :-)

<Peewiglet backs away cautiously...>

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

"Peewiglet" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 08:03:41 +0000 (UTC), "KRO" <[email hidden]> wrote:

<snippy>

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Welcome to midge-land :-)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

My first introduction to the Demon Midges was as a student with the
University OTC camping in Scotland.

Quoted message said:

Woah, university OTC - pretendy officers? Tells me *all* I need to know.
Midges hate "Nigels" and "Nigellas". If you had a few tats, swore better

and

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

frightened the officers, the midges would have left you alone :-)
Sorry but university OTC makes me laugh, I have to, or else I'd spew.....
Never mind the OP called the Cuillin "serious fells". Fells? What is the
world coming to. Dearie me............

Goodness me... what a lot of ugliness to direct towards a total
stranger! Heaven help those you have reason to dislike :-)

<Peewiglet backs away cautiously...>

I was going to say sowwy but I'm not. I stand by my remarks. If I've hurt
your delicate ego then ..... The OTC that came on my ship when I was
an AB were a bunch of self-serving yaahs who brayed like donkeys and
assumed they were born to positions of power and privilege.

KRO

KRO said:

Quoted message said:

Goodness me... what a lot of ugliness to direct towards a total
stranger! Heaven help those you have reason to dislike :-)

<Peewiglet backs away cautiously...>

no need pw (although applause for effort)

Quoted message said:

I was going to say sowwy but I'm not. I stand by my remarks. If I've hurt
your delicate ego then ..... The OTC that came on my ship when I was
an AB were a bunch of self-serving yaahs who brayed like donkeys and
assumed they were born to positions of power and privilege.

Just look him in the eye and give him the beasting he deserves; teach
him to tar everyone with the same brush. When you've finished beasting
him give him to me I'll beast him again, should cement any ridiculous
prejudices, they're obviously never going to change so might as well
have them cast in "stone"! ;-)

....and, no, I'm not [nor former] OTC, I just recognise when someone
deserves a beasting. Yeah, anyone can have their prejudices but taking
it out on an innocent is not on!

SteveO

NE Climbers & walkers chat forum;
http://www.thenmc.org.uk/phpBB2/index.php

NMC website: http://www.thenmc.org.uk

KRO said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

> My first introduction to the Demon Midges was as a student with the
> University OTC camping in Scotland.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Woah, university OTC - pretendy officers? Tells me *all* I need to know.
Midges hate "Nigels" and "Nigellas". If you had a few tats, swore better and
frightened the officers, the midges would have left you alone :-)
Sorry but university OTC makes me laugh, I have to, or else I'd spew.....
Never mind the OP called the Cuillin "serious fells". Fells? What is the
world coming to. Dearie me............

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

Goodness me... what a lot of ugliness to direct towards a total
stranger! Heaven help those you have reason to dislike :-)

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

<Peewiglet backs away cautiously...>

Quoted message said:

I was going to say sowwy but I'm not. I stand by my remarks. If I've hurt
your delicate ego then ..... The OTC that came on my ship when I was
an AB were a bunch of self-serving yaahs who brayed like donkeys and
assumed they were born to positions of power and privilege.

Hey, please feel entirely free to continue! I was just a little
surprised to find a complete stranger spouting bile at me for no
apparent reason in a NG, but I think I've got the hang of you now ;-)

(p.s. it's spelled c***h***i***p. Comprende?)

(Lol! :-)

Best wishes,
--
Peewiglet

KRO said:

"Bernie Hughes" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

KRO said:

Never mind the OP called the Cuillin "serious fells". Fells? What is the
world coming to. Dearie me............

Doesn't seem that unreasonable to me. The Gaelic suffix -bhal &
anglicized equivalent -val are used in a few places on Skye.

Bernie

"Fells" is a word I associate with Englands topography. You got me thinking,
I couldn't see why there would be a link, so I looked.....

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/md1933/f.htm
QUOTE

Fell (topographical), though regularly used in old documents, especially in
the plural, for an uncultivated hillside, is not now heard in the dialect,
though it occurs in many place-names.

A contributor to the Year Book of the Viking Society for 1912 (page 50)
draws attention to a mistake made by Captain Thomas in handling the
place-names of the Western Isles, and " perpetuated by every writer since ";
namely, that -bhal, sometimes written -mheall, and in maps -val in names of
hills, always represents fjall. Fjall means, it is pointed out, a mountain
or mountain range, as distinguished from a fell or hill. " Fell " as a
suffix is the Old Norse hvdll, which is still the name in Iceland for a
small piece of rising ground somewhat larger than a hall or knoll, but not
so large as a fell-i.e., a fjall.

UNQUOTE

Now where's my Year Book of the Viking Society 1912?

Are we way off topic yet?

I'm very impressed with the obscurity of the source material, less so
with the solidity of the argument displayed therein!

Drummond's 'Scottish Hill & Mountain Names' says more succinctly-

"the /-val/ suffix is the Hebridean form of /fjall/, a peak." (p.149)and
"The word 'fell' is of Norse ancestry (from /fjall, a mountain)" (p.51).

Perhaps the nameless (though undoubtedly distinguished..)'contributor to
the Year Book of the Viking Society for 1912' would see this as
plagarising the error of said Captain Thomas, but I think the jury would
return a verdict of 'Not Proven' in the absence of further testimony.

A cursory glance over the other entries in the Manxnotebook at

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/fulltext/md1933/f.htm

is pretty revealing. For example the paragraph immediately below the one
quoted above reads:
"These two terms in Manx place-names... can be distinguished by anyone
familiar with the respective eminences to which they have been applied.
Sartal in Jurby, for example, represents Svart-hvdll, Dark Hill, whereas
Sartal, in Michael, is Svart fjall, Dark Mountain."

A distinction without a difference. The two hills called Sartal /must/
have a different origin because to an English mind 'hill' & 'mountain'
are different things. Yeah, right.

And take a look at the entry for 'Fenian' It's complete gibberish.

Bernie

"Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...

Quoted message said:

Craven Birds <[email hidden]> wrote

Quoted message said:

Why not try this! An elecrotic deterant! I'd like to know if they work;-)

They probably get clothes cleaner, anyway. But can you get non-
boilogic deterants, and is it ok to wash Goretecks in them?

Oh dear! Electronic deterrent? Gore-Tex,! Rubbish, so don't wesh it;-)
--

Regards,
Chris,

Bird sightings based around 'Craven' Skipton, North Yorks.
http://www.craven-birds.co.uk/
Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by the Norton auto-updated
anti-virus system.