Lysine and cholesterol

Hi
If Dr Raths and Linus Paulings Unified Theory of Cardiovascular Disease is
correct, then you are half way there - you need vitamin c along with your
lysine
to lower your cholesterol. http://www.vitamincfoundation.org/
http://www.dr-rath-research.org/
The body uses cholesterol, lysine and ascorbate to repair the blood vessels.

There's also studies which show that a 'gorilla diet' lowers cholesterol
comparable if not exceeding drugs.
A google search of ape diet and cholesterol will bring up the info.
Anth

If you are taking large amounts of acidic ascorbate - best to buffer it with
an alkali (sodium bicarbonate) (or buy buffered)

"Greg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Hi all,
I'm hoping someone can help me with a problem my wife is dealing with.
She has had canker sores since she was a kid, and tried everything she
could think of to deal with them. A few years ago she learned about
lysene and started taking it, about 1000 ml per day. It's been a
wonder for her. On those occasions when the sores do flare up, they
are short-lived and not nearly as painful as they had been before.

At her last physical checkup, the doctor informed her that her
cholesterol is fairly high and gave her a list of foods to watch out
for, as well as foods to eat more of. Thing is, we tend to eat pretty
well. Our diet included all the healthy things on his list, as well as
only occasional consumption of the things he suggested avoiding (red
meat, butter etc). We aren't sure why her cholesterol level is so
elevated, especially considering mine is right where it should be.

Last night she came across an article in "Alternative Medicine"
magazine that stated there might be a correlation between lysene and
cholesterol. This seems like it could be at least part of the problem.
Unfortunately, it might mean she needs to stop taking it, allowing the
sores free reign.

Questions:
1) Has anyone else heard of the correlation between lysene and
cholesterol?
2) Are there any suggestions for cholesterol-lowering substances that
she can take without having to stop the lysene?
3)If she were to stop taking lysene, are there any other remedies to
deal with canker sores? She has tried a number, but I'm sure there are
others we haven't heard of.

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Subject: Re: Lysine and cholesterol
From: "Anth" [email hidden]
Date: 2/25/04 5:54 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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The body uses cholesterol, lysine and ascorbate to repair the blood vessels.

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Anth

The body also has another use for cholesterol.

Like any machine or fluid, the blood suffers from friction as it travels around
the body. The blood, then, needs a lubricant to aid the flow of blood. As the
blood vessels become hardened or occluded with plaque the need for a blood
lubricant increases.

Guess what that lubricant might be? Yes, cholesterol. Cholesterol does not
cause heart disease. Elevated cholesterol is an indication of a circulatory
problem for the blood. High cholesterol means your vessels need more
lubricant.

Guess what the MD is doing when he gives you a poison to lower your
cholesterol? He is fighting the body intelligence, and shortening your life.

DrC PhD

"DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Like any machine or fluid, the blood suffers from friction as it travels

around

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the body. The blood, then, needs a lubricant to aid the flow of blood.

As the

Quoted message said:

blood vessels become hardened or occluded with plaque the need for a blood
lubricant increases.

Guess what that lubricant might be? Yes, cholesterol. Cholesterol does

not

Quoted message said:

cause heart disease. Elevated cholesterol is an indication of a

circulatory

Quoted message said:

problem for the blood. High cholesterol means your vessels need more
lubricant.

IOW, there is no risk form high cholesterol. That what you're saying? Why
do people who eat a choleswterol-rich diet have higher cholesterol then?
Coincidence? (I won't even bother asking where you got this preposterous
"lubricant" story from...)

le moo

If cholesterol caused damage then bears would be in trouble!
Anth

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Subject: Re: Lysine and cholesterol
From: "Anth" [email hidden]
Date: 2/25/04 5:54 PM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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The body uses cholesterol, lysine and ascorbate to repair the blood

vessels.

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Quoted message said:

Anth

The body also has another use for cholesterol.

Like any machine or fluid, the blood suffers from friction as it travels

around

Quoted message said:

the body. The blood, then, needs a lubricant to aid the flow of blood.

As the

Quoted message said:

blood vessels become hardened or occluded with plaque the need for a blood
lubricant increases.

Guess what that lubricant might be? Yes, cholesterol. Cholesterol does

not

Quoted message said:

cause heart disease. Elevated cholesterol is an indication of a

circulatory

Quoted message said:

problem for the blood. High cholesterol means your vessels need more
lubricant.

Guess what the MD is doing when he gives you a poison to lower your
cholesterol? He is fighting the body intelligence, and shortening your

life.

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DrC PhD

Why can it be shown that in cultures who eat lots of cholesterol in their
diets, they have lower incidence of heart disease that us?
It's the diet whole parcel.
Anth

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"DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Like any machine or fluid, the blood suffers from friction as it travels

around

Quoted message said:

the body. The blood, then, needs a lubricant to aid the flow of blood.

As the

Quoted message said:

blood vessels become hardened or occluded with plaque the need for a

blood

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lubricant increases.

Guess what that lubricant might be? Yes, cholesterol. Cholesterol does

not

Quoted message said:

cause heart disease. Elevated cholesterol is an indication of a

circulatory

Quoted message said:

problem for the blood. High cholesterol means your vessels need more
lubricant.

IOW, there is no risk form high cholesterol. That what you're saying?

Why

Quoted message said:

do people who eat a choleswterol-rich diet have higher cholesterol then?
Coincidence? (I won't even bother asking where you got this preposterous
"lubricant" story from...)

le moo

"Anth" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:4

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Why can it be shown that in cultures who eat lots of cholesterol in their
diets, they have lower incidence of heart disease that us?
It's the diet whole parcel.

No informed person says otherwise. My point was only that Not Dr. C is, as
usual, dreaming up stories.

l;e m

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Anth

"Happy Dog" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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"DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message

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Like any machine or fluid, the blood suffers from friction as it

travels

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

around

Quoted message said:

the body. The blood, then, needs a lubricant to aid the flow of

blood.

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

As the

Quoted message said:

blood vessels become hardened or occluded with plaque the need for a

blood

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

lubricant increases.

Guess what that lubricant might be? Yes, cholesterol. Cholesterol

does

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

not

Quoted message said:

cause heart disease. Elevated cholesterol is an indication of a

circulatory

Quoted message said:

problem for the blood. High cholesterol means your vessels need more
lubricant.

IOW, there is no risk form high cholesterol. That what you're saying?

Why

Quoted message said:

do people who eat a choleswterol-rich diet have higher cholesterol then?
Coincidence? (I won't even bother asking where you got this

preposterous

Quoted message said:

Quoted message said:

"lubricant" story from...)

le moo

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Subject: Re: Lysine and cholesterol
From: "Anth" [email hidden]
Date: 2/26/04 11:50 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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If cholesterol caused damage then bears would be in trouble!
Anth

My cholesterol post was based upon the Orthopath's knowledge of the disease.

Current data indicates that they were correct. The fight against cholesterol
has not altered the coronary statistics any more than the low sodium effort.

I believe that the plaque has been shown to be mainly lipoprotein-a, not
cholesterol. A lipoprotein is a fat-protein complex, which leads me to believe
that the problem is fat since everything is associated with a protein to make
it blood soluble and recognizable within the body.

DrC PhD

They search for a 'magic bullet' , when they should be searching for the
root cause, this is atypical of medicine which is rooted in money.
Fools!
Anth

"DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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Subject: Re: Lysine and cholesterol
From: "Anth" [email hidden]
Date: 2/26/04 11:50 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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If cholesterol caused damage then bears would be in trouble!
Anth

My cholesterol post was based upon the Orthopath's knowledge of the

disease.

Quoted message said:

Current data indicates that they were correct. The fight against

cholesterol

Quoted message said:

has not altered the coronary statistics any more than the low sodium

effort.

Quoted message said:

I believe that the plaque has been shown to be mainly lipoprotein-a, not
cholesterol. A lipoprotein is a fat-protein complex, which leads me to

believe

Quoted message said:

that the problem is fat since everything is associated with a protein to

make

Quoted message said:

it blood soluble and recognizable within the body.

DrC PhD

"DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in

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My cholesterol post was based upon the Orthopath's knowledge of the

disease.

It was based on an absured fantasy. As usual, you have nothing resembeling
a study,

moo

Quoted message said:

Current data indicates that they were correct. The fight against

cholesterol

Quoted message said:

has not altered the coronary statistics any more than the low sodium

effort.

Quoted message said:

I believe that the plaque has been shown to be mainly lipoprotein-a, not
cholesterol. A lipoprotein is a fat-protein complex, which leads me to

believe

Quoted message said:

that the problem is fat since everything is associated with a protein to

make

Quoted message said:

it blood soluble and recognizable within the body.

DrC PhD

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Subject: Re: Lysine and cholesterol
From: "Anth" [email hidden]
Date: 2/27/04 2:01 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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They search for a 'magic bullet' , when they should be searching for the
root cause, this is atypical of medicine which is rooted in money.
Fools!
Anth

We have to understand that medicine is a religion.

Just like the Hindus do their thing their way, the Muslims do their thing their
way, the Christians do their thing their way, etc. etc. the church of modern
medicine must do their things their way. We cannot expect them to do the right
thing. We cannot expect them to heal when all they can do is cut, burn, or
poison in the vain attemt to cure.

Look at it like this: The hospital is their temple. The doctors are the high
priests. The nurses are the priestesses. The drugs are the sacraments. The
surgeries are the blood sacrifices. The vaccinations are the rights of
puberty. The abortions are child sacrifices to their God.

All of this agrees with Rev 18:23 in the Bible where it states that "whole
nations will be decieved by the medicines of Satan."

We will have to get a grip on it. The doctors are not the medical gods they
pretend to be. They are puppets for a higher master, the master of deception.

DrC PhD.

"DRCEEPHD" <[email hidden]> wrote in

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We have to understand that medicine is a religion.

We have to understand that you make many claims that you don't back up with
anything but rhetoric. That's closer to religion than anything in
conventional medicine.

erf

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DRCEEPHD said:

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Subject: Re: Lysine and cholesterol
From: "Anth" [email hidden]
Date: 2/27/04 2:01 AM Eastern Standard Time
Message-id: <[email hidden]>

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They search for a 'magic bullet' , when they should be searching for the
root cause, this is atypical of medicine which is rooted in money.
Fools!
Anth

We have to understand that medicine is a religion.

This sort of farcical claim makes a lot more sense now that we know
that "Dr" (ha ha) Cee is a religious fanatic himself, who threw his
whole scientific education (assuming he ever had one) overboard and
turned his brain off in favor of blind faith.

Since he suffers from such a syndrome, it's inconceivable to him that
other people do not. Thus, he just projects it onto everyone else.

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